Hkizzle Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 Ok, just had dinner with my female neighbour, and started talking about relationships, and SHE not me brought up an interesting question. If you were going to have a daughter and you had two choices but it can't be in between, what would you rather have? 1) A beautiful girl that was dumb or 2) A really intelligent girl that was butt ugly. HER words, not mine. So what would your choice be and why? My answer. The beatiful girl that was dumb, because as long as she wasn't so stupid that I can't even teach her basic concepts I can tell her that men will use her for sex and she needs to pick a good man. However looks is still a useful tool a woman has to her advantage so it's good to have good looks.
Rudderless Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 Is this a trick question? I would have refused to answer the question and tried to lighten up the topic of conversation. Unless you were going out to dinner with a female without wanting to sleep with her?
Author Hkizzle Posted October 8, 2009 Author Posted October 8, 2009 Is this a trick question? I would have refused to answer the question and tried to lighten up the topic of conversation. Unless you were going out to dinner with a female without wanting to sleep with her? haha, no, not at all. She's got a boyfriend. She's been a neighbour for two years and I never got to know her other than to say hi. So we had drinks and dinner, I told her I was writing a book about relationships and she threw that question at me. Which is actually a good hypothetical question. See, we don't have a choice with many of the cards life deals us with. Thus if we could deal our own hand in our child but it both hands are not perfect, which hand would we choose?
alphamale Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 i would go with beautiful but dumb - that way she could marry a rich guy and support herself
bayouboi Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 Beautiful and dumb. Life is way easier for pretty people.
Author Hkizzle Posted October 8, 2009 Author Posted October 8, 2009 i would go with beautiful but dumb - that way she could marry a rich guy and support herself Yeah but the smart girl could support herslf anyway! So..........?
alphamale Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 Yeah but the smart girl could support herslf anyway! So..........? yea but she would probably never get married and have kids so you wouldn't get any grandkids. the good looking/dumb girl could support herself by marrying well AND give you good looking grand kids of average intelligence assuming her husband is smart which he would most likely be since he's rich.
Author Hkizzle Posted October 8, 2009 Author Posted October 8, 2009 yea but she would probably never get married and have kids so you wouldn't get any grandkids. the good looking/dumb girl could support herself by marrying well AND give you good looking grand kids of average intelligence assuming her husband is smart which he would most likely be since he's rich. Yeah but if she's smart and dumb what happens if she just becomes a play thing again and again and again? The smart and ugly girl could settle for a smart and ugly man, that doesn't do that well with women.
bayouboi Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 Yeah but if she's smart and dumb what happens if she just becomes a play thing again and again and again? The smart and ugly girl could settle for a smart and ugly man, that doesn't do that well with women. Yeah but then you'll have ugly grandkids. *ducks*
Author Hkizzle Posted October 8, 2009 Author Posted October 8, 2009 Yeah but then you'll have ugly grandkids. *ducks* Lol, I didn't say it! (points at bayouboi)
alphamale Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 Yeah but if she's smart and dumb what happens if she just becomes a play thing again and again and again? oh she will become a play thing again and again but you would have taught her to marry all these clowns and get alimony and settlements after they divorce
Author Hkizzle Posted October 8, 2009 Author Posted October 8, 2009 oh she will become a play thing again and again but you would have taught her to marry all these clowns and get alimony and settlements after they divorce Lol, I'm kinda glad you guys got here first. I can't wait until the girls on this forum wake up, pick up a piece of sandpaper and rub it across my face.
TaraMaiden Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 Grade 7, buddy...... I've seen butt-ugly women married to guys and have kids, so this really is a dumb question, because we're all attracted to something like us..... and beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I really do not consider myself to be anything other than ordinary. I'm short, can't wear heels, have to watch my weight, in middle-age, have teeth that could do with a bit of work, and wear glasses. my partner thinks I'm beautiful. And he's serious, because I've seen prettier girls he knows, and he says that whilst the looks may mean something, they don't last, and besides, they're uninteresting, and what counts is mental stimulation, more than physical or visual. But that I'm lovely, and he loves the way I look. His words, not mine. My partner is no Adonis. he's overweight, not all that tall, and isn't as fit as he could be. I think he's good looking, and even after 5 years, I still get a flutter when I see him after an absence. He likes 'a type' and so do I. But nowhere is it written that 'types' have to be generally considered beautiful. And ugly people have feelings too. especially if they're intelligent as well...... wet or dry rub....?
theBrokenMuse Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 Here are my thoughts on this. Beautiful and dumb is every father's worst nightmare (not every but it's a pretty damn big one). Dads often hate the idea of any man laying a hand on their daughters and they know that a dumb girl is more easily seduced and used because, after all, they were young once and know how some young men tend to operate. This tends to cause a whole lot of stress whereas the smart but an ugly smart daughter can reach goals that few even aspire to, making him proud and Daddy doesn't have to worry himself sick about hanky panky going on with some bad boy type that makes him feel emasculated. All in all, the latter is pure win for the Dad.
Author Hkizzle Posted October 8, 2009 Author Posted October 8, 2009 wet or dry rub....? Water doesn't decrease the friction of sandpaper against face........ Notice in my personal OP I never post any personal attacks about anybody. People will interpret as they like. Tony's post however was a personal attack. That's a big difference.
Jersey Shortie Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 Seriously, I would pick smart and ugly. I couldn't respect a dumb man.
Author Hkizzle Posted October 8, 2009 Author Posted October 8, 2009 Here are my thoughts on this. Beautiful and dumb is every father's worst nightmare (not every but it's a pretty damn big one). Dads often hate the idea of any man laying a hand on their daughters and they know that a dumb girl is more easily seduced and used because, after all, they were young once and know how some young men tend to operate. This tends to cause a whole lot of stress whereas the smart but an ugly smart daughter can reach goals that few even aspire to, making him proud and Daddy doesn't have to worry himself sick about hanky panky going on with some bad boy type that makes him feel emasculated. All in all, the latter is pure win for the Dad. Ok, that's a good answer too. That was my main reason for not picking beautiful but dumb. See right now I wonder exactly what the fathers of my beautiful female friends actually teach them about men.......
Jersey Shortie Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 The same thing the father's of ugly daughters teach them.
Rudderless Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 haha, no, not at all. She's got a boyfriend. She's been a neighbour for two years and I never got to know her other than to say hi. So we had drinks and dinner, I told her I was writing a book about relationships and she threw that question at me. Which is actually a good hypothetical question. See, we don't have a choice with many of the cards life deals us with. Thus if we could deal our own hand in our child but it both hands are not perfect, which hand would we choose? Well if you weren't out on a date what does this question have to do with dating? Is there anything anyone can take away from this thread that will be useful to their dating lives in any way shape or form?
Author Hkizzle Posted October 8, 2009 Author Posted October 8, 2009 Well if you weren't out on a date what does this question have to do with dating? Is there anything anyone can take away from this thread that will be useful to their dating lives in any way shape or form? Yeah it's called how to pick out weaknesses then improve them. The problem with a lot of people here I've noticed is. When someone picks out a weakness they buckle. Whilst getting weaknesses picked out and then finding solutions for them improves us. People that are winners identify and confront their weaknesses, from short men to ugly girls and find ways to get around their problem.
Rudderless Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 Yeah it's called how to pick out weaknesses then improve them. The problem with a lot of people here I've noticed is. When someone picks out a weakness they buckle. Whilst getting weaknesses picked out and then finding solutions for them improves us. People that are winners identify and confront their weaknesses, from short men to ugly girls and find ways to get around their problem. So then which weaknesses relevant to dating are being picked out, and how should they be improved?
Author Hkizzle Posted October 8, 2009 Author Posted October 8, 2009 So then which weaknesses relevant to dating are being picked out, and how should they be improved? Ok, I'll bite on this one. An ugly woman is like a short man, physically unattractive to the opposite sex, but they can get around it via their personality. Some of the most outgoing individuals I know are short men, simply because they are at such a disadvantage from an early age they use their sense of humor and wit to survive. If that short man was weak however he gets chewed up and loses even more confidence. An ugly woman that has a good personality can get around her circumstance in the same way. She might not get all the men after her but will certainly get some men that appreciate her for her great personality. Ironically the weakest link are the beautiful girls that lack personality, since they are oblivious to their situation because they get so much attention. What they don't realize they are able to attract men but can't keep them. Men are visual so will gravitate more to better looking women initially and then get bored or turned off by a shallow or boring woman. But that's why I would rather pick a beautiful dumb daughter. Unless she was so dumb I can't even get that theory across to her at an early age I have a chance to teach her many men will go after her for her looks and she needs to filter out the one guy that will appreciate her for her personality.
Rudderless Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 Ok, I'll bite on this one. An ugly woman is like a short man, physically unattractive to the opposite sex, but they can get around it via their personality. Some of the most outgoing individuals I know are short men, simply because they are at such a disadvantage from an early age they use their sense of humor and wit to survive. If that short man was weak however he gets chewed up and loses even more confidence. An ugly woman that has a good personality can get around her circumstance in the same way. She might not get all the men after her but will certainly get some men that appreciate her for her great personality. Ironically the weakest link are the beautiful girls that lack personality, since they are oblivious to their situation because they get so much attention. What they don't realize they are able to attract men but can't keep them. Men are visual so will gravitate more to better looking women initially and then get bored or turned off by a shallow or boring woman. I don't get it, have you had to overcome weaknesses in dating yourself or is this just all hypothetical stuff ? I mean, I've heard this sort of theory from you before but it doesn't seem to be based on any sort of experience. E.g., the fact that I'm massively rich should put me in a certain category that you aspire to but first hand experience tells me that you're talking from self limiting persective, e.g, you haven't understood that the minor part of dating is initially attracting a handful of the massive amount of people out there - many of who are similarly ugly, short, rich, beautiful, or whatever. The fundamental problem in your thinking is you don't appear to understand like attract's like, rather than beautiful of rich attracts everyone and no-one else even figures. That's hugely self limiting and self deluding, and points to a lot of insecurity.
bayouboi Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 Grade 7, buddy...... I've seen butt-ugly women married to guys and have kids, so this really is a dumb question, because we're all attracted to something like us..... and beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I really do not consider myself to be anything other than ordinary. I'm short, can't wear heels, have to watch my weight, in middle-age, have teeth that could do with a bit of work, and wear glasses. my partner thinks I'm beautiful. And he's serious, because I've seen prettier girls he knows, and he says that whilst the looks may mean something, they don't last, and besides, they're uninteresting, and what counts is mental stimulation, more than physical or visual. But that I'm lovely, and he loves the way I look. His words, not mine. My partner is no Adonis. he's overweight, not all that tall, and isn't as fit as he could be. I think he's good looking, and even after 5 years, I still get a flutter when I see him after an absence. He likes 'a type' and so do I. But nowhere is it written that 'types' have to be generally considered beautiful. And ugly people have feelings too. especially if they're intelligent as well...... wet or dry rub....? Just to play devil's advocate on this, how much do you think the fact that you're both limited in your physical attraction qualities plays into you guys both finding one another "beautiful"? Or was that your point?
Author Hkizzle Posted October 8, 2009 Author Posted October 8, 2009 I don't get it, have you had to overcome weaknesses in dating yourself or is this just all hypothetical stuff ? I mean, I've heard this sort of theory from you before but it doesn't seem to be based on any sort of experience. E.g., the fact that I'm massively rich should put me in a certain category that you aspire to but first hand experience tells me that you're talking from self limiting persective, e.g, you haven't understood that the minor part of dating is initially attracting a handful of the massive amount of people out there - many of who are similarly ugly, short, rich, beautiful, or whatever. The fundamental problem in your thinking is you don't appear to understand like attract's like, rather than beautiful of rich attracts everyone and no-one else even figures. That's hugely self limiting and self deluding, and points to a lot of insecurity. Of course I have had to overcome weaknesses in dating myself. I find things about myself that's unattractive to the opposite sex and throw it out. Now before anyone says well you're a jerk! Of course on this forum I'm a different person to real life. This is a place for me to learn. Like attracts like whilst true generally applies to who a person can KEEP. A beautiful woman but dumb woman can attract more men but can't keep any of them. She will write off all the nice and not outgoing men and naturally pick the most outgoing men that will not find her personality attractive. Initial attraction and keeping someone are different. If initial attraction was the holy grail there wouldn't be unhappy beautiful women out there.
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