soserious1 Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 What most women currently use obviously ain't working...... Is it just an inability to spot the difference between a decent man and a jerk? Or is it impossible to control impulses, and a woman needs to jump on a man she feels attraction for without checking first if he's going to be a good long term partner? You're assuming that all women are looking for long term partners. I'm here to tell you that isn't the case. I'm only interested in casual, lightly social ,sexual relationships without expectation or obligation on either side. You also ask why women don't use integrity as a "first filter" the answer is because that isn't possible, everybody tries to present their very best possible face in the courtship stages, it is impossible to learn a person's true nature till you've seen how they behave during hard/bad times, it's easy to act with honor when things are going your way, not so easy when the chips are down. It might take months of dating to actually see someone's true nature...male or female
You'reasian Posted October 12, 2009 Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) Practicing a risky sex life (when you finally get some) can cause sterility.. Truth be told, we aren't privy to another's sex life. We're more perception driven - that person 'seems like they get alot' or that person 'doesnt seem like they get any' - when reality could be the opposite. A buddy of mine was hooking up month after month, most of the women were rather attractive - a few months later, some new colleagues were asking me if this guy ever gets any? But I didn't wish you to catch an STD and go sterile. I said I hope that you are currently already sterile and possibly unaware. That way you won't accidentally breed with the women who's characters you don't care about but will still stomach screwing. From what I'm gathering, Hkizzle is simply adapting to his dating environments - but what he does is his business, so long no one's getting hurt. Women want sex too - whether they want to let it be known openly or are more discrete - they want it just as much as we guys do. Women have a right to chose who they want to do it with, whether they want a relationship or not. Its silly for us guys to think we can somehow force or constrict a woman's right to have fun. Edited October 12, 2009 by You'reasian
sally4sara Posted October 12, 2009 Posted October 12, 2009 Truth be told, we aren't privy to another's sex life. We're more perception driven - that person 'seems like they get alot' or that person 'doesnt seem like they get any' - when reality could be the opposite. A buddy of mine was hooking up month after month, most of the women were rather attractive - a few months later, some new colleagues were asking me if this guy ever gets any? From what I'm gathering, Hkizzle is simply adapting to his dating environments - but what he does is his business, so long no one's getting hurt. Women want sex too - whether they want to let it be known openly or are more discrete - they want it just as much as we guys do. Women have a right to chose who they want to do it with, whether they want a relationship or not. Its silly for us guys to think we can somehow force or constrict a woman's right to have fun. All of my points (to the OP) were intended to get him (and no one else really!) wondering why he is concerned if women pick men with no integrity (perceived or real) instead of wondering why HE picks women with no integrity (perceived or real) and consciously behaves in a manner HE believes to lack integrity. I personally don't give two flips about the sex lives of people I'm not screwing. But seeing as how he is practically everyday, making at least one thread with this theme, I participated with him. He then alludes that it is okay for him to bed hop because he can marry one day as though that is an option others (women) cannot also be counting on after a buffet of low/no integrity partners. He has claimed that these questions are to tailor a book he is writing to help women, but he needs the help he thinks he will be giving. He doesn't realize these concepts are not so much a gender issue but rather a cultural issue and his views come from making such a huge, unnecessary distinction between the genders rather than cultures or individuals. Besides, PUA advise is crap and tacky at best, con artistry and mental abuse at worst.
gopher Posted October 12, 2009 Posted October 12, 2009 All of my points (to the OP) were intended to get him (and no one else really!) wondering why he is concerned if women pick men with no integrity (perceived or real) instead of wondering why HE picks women with no integrity (perceived or real) and consciously behaves in a manner HE believes to lack integrity. I personally don't give two flips about the sex lives of people I'm not screwing. But seeing as how he is practically everyday, making at least one thread with this theme, I participated with him. He then alludes that it is okay for him to bed hop because he can marry one day as though that is an option others (women) cannot also be counting on after a buffet of low/no integrity partners. He has claimed that these questions are to tailor a book he is writing to help women, but he needs the help he thinks he will be giving. He doesn't realize these concepts are not so much a gender issue but rather a cultural issue and his views come from making such a huge, unnecessary distinction between the genders rather than cultures or individuals. Besides, PUA advise is crap and tacky at best, con artistry and mental abuse at worst. S4S, I love your posts, you are one of the smartest posters on LS and I agree with you 99.9% of the time. That said....what does it matter what the OP's issues are? The thread isn't about his issues, but was a question about women in general...and I know generalizing is usually a waste of time in a LS thread or real life for that matter. But, if we critique the reason behind this OP's or any OP's thread, and start to make it about them....it seems it's a huge waste of time....and not what LS is really about. Ok, from what I've seen, many people are putting up the best possible version of themselves, for as long as they can in a relationship. Both genders can be fooled and are fooled. I don't think women make any worse choices than men do, when it comes to picking partners.
BookerT Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 All of my points (to the OP) were intended to get him (and no one else really!) wondering why he is concerned if women pick men with no integrity (perceived or real) instead of wondering why HE picks women with no integrity (perceived or real) and consciously behaves in a manner HE believes to lack integrity. I personally don't give two flips about the sex lives of people I'm not screwing. But seeing as how he is practically everyday, making at least one thread with this theme, I participated with him. He then alludes that it is okay for him to bed hop because he can marry one day as though that is an option others (women) cannot also be counting on after a buffet of low/no integrity partners. He has claimed that these questions are to tailor a book he is writing to help women, but he needs the help he thinks he will be giving. He doesn't realize these concepts are not so much a gender issue but rather a cultural issue and his views come from making such a huge, unnecessary distinction between the genders rather than cultures or individuals. Besides, PUA advise is crap and tacky at best, con artistry and mental abuse at worst. Umm, I find it interesting you said not to interpret the OPs post about not allowing the mentally disabled to live. Yet here you clearly interpreted and expanded upon the original meaning of the OP. Double standards because of personal opinion on the two different subject matters?
sally4sara Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 Umm, I find it interesting you said not to interpret the OPs post about not allowing the mentally disabled to live. Yet here you clearly interpreted and expanded upon the original meaning of the OP. Double standards because of personal opinion on the two different subject matters? I find it interesting that the OP in this case makes the same thread over and over and over daily while the other does not and yet you feel the need to go off topic just to be a smart ass. Many threads of the same topic is what a person with an agenda does. It could also indicate the OP has a hang up he might need and might need advise forum help. One thread about a theory does not indicate an agenda or a hang up but rather an open discussion. Gopher, You're absolutely right. It has been a huge waste of time.
BookerT Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 (edited) I find it interesting that the OP in this case makes the same thread over and over and over daily while the other does not and yet you feel the need to go off topic just to be a smart ass. Many threads of the same topic is what a person with an agenda does. It could also indicate the OP has a hang up he might need and might need advise forum help. One thread about a theory does not indicate an agenda or a hang up but rather an open discussion. Gopher, You're absolutely right. It has been a huge waste of time. So if I started a thread about how Jews are an inferior race based on the theories developed in the 1930's. That's a good topic of discussion as well? Blueharvest picked an awfully sensitive topic to discuss, and to be honest sounded like a bigot on his thread. Not saying this thread is any better. But just seems like a double standard, that's all. Edited October 13, 2009 by BookerT
sally4sara Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 So if I started a thread about how Jews are an inferior race based on the theories developed in the 1930's. That's a good topic of discussion as well? Blueharvest picked an awfully sensitive topic to discuss, and to be honest sounded like a bigot on his thread. Not saying this thread is any better. But just seems like a double standard, that's all. Dude, I'm going to bed. You're off topic and I'm getting sleepy and bored.
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