sally4sara Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 You know I'm watching this show called "Lie to me". Fascinating show about body language and how to spot liars, and the woman on the show consistently misses that her husband is cheating on her even though she's an expert on the subject. Whilst everyone else on the team can see it. I know, no one, men or women want to accept they might be with the wrong person. Hence it pays to have tough filters before one gets emotionally attached. You're really looking to fictional television to support your "intelligent debate" now? Oh! there goes my eyeball! :lmao::lmao:
Trialbyfire Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 Unless you can read someone's mind, there's no sure way to filter out the liars. Lying experts aren't always accurate with their body language reading. Polygraphs can be beaten. So, until they perfect the art of mind-reading, people are going to have to date and have relationships with people who aren't a good fit. No one has perfect judgement, especially the OP.
westernxer Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 I like to think I have other qualities that are more attractive to the opposite sex. Having integrity is what keeps them away. LOL
Author Hkizzle Posted October 9, 2009 Author Posted October 9, 2009 I like to think I have other qualities that are more attractive to the opposite sex. Having integrity is what keeps them away. LOL Yeah this is the interesting part. I agree with TBF that it's not possible to spot liars 100% of the time. But I've noticed that some women naturally are repelled by men with integrity. This is not the boring needy nice guy as well. But let's say an interesting guy.
Trialbyfire Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Yeah this is the interesting part. I agree with TBF that it's not possible to spot liars 100% of the time. But I've noticed that some women naturally are repelled by men with integrity. This is not the boring needy nice guy as well. But let's say an interesting guy.You're kidding, right? I'm intensely drawn by men who show integrity AND are interesting, which includes intelligence. My fiance is this way. Besides how cute he is, which of course was noticed at first meet and greet, he's like a rock. Grounded inside of himself. He knows his ethical boundaries and maintains them.
westernxer Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 But I've noticed that some women naturally are repelled by men with integrity. I think they like integrity, but for some women it's not a primary concern. Besides, they can always tame the guy later, provided the guy wants to be tamed. LOL
sally4sara Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Thread implies women do not want men with integrity. Supposes that women are REPELLED by men with integrity. OP elsewhere claims he would rather have a beautiful dumb daughter than a brilliant ugly one. I do not think the OP grasps the definition of integrity Why then are women not swarming all over him? I'm sure the answer can be found on Grey's Anatomy or some other TV show!
Ruby Slippers Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 I do use integrity as a first filter. I had a first date with a guy last night, and one of the things that impressed me most is that he volunteers once a week and is working to redirect his talents in economics to starting up a nonprofit charity endeavor. I have been thinking a lot lately about doing the same thing, and this really impressed me. This is a huge plus in the plus column.
D-Lish Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Everyone has multiple facets. No one is a two-dimensional cartoon. But if there was such a thing- I would want to date Fred from Scooby -Doo. He only has two awesome sides to him- cute and cool.
Author Hkizzle Posted October 9, 2009 Author Posted October 9, 2009 Thread implies women do not want men with integrity. Supposes that women are REPELLED by men with integrity. OP elsewhere claims he would rather have a beautiful dumb daughter than a brilliant ugly one. I do not think the OP grasps the definition of integrity Why then are women not swarming all over him? I'm sure the answer can be found on Grey's Anatomy or some other TV show! SOME...... I do attract women. That's because I have no integrity, lol.
You'reasian Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 SOME...... I do attract women. That's because I have no integrity, lol. Attraction is still heavily influenced by our animal side, rather than our rational/responsible side. The more I care and appease that inner animal, the more women are somehow attracted to me. Conversely, when I've spent years becoming a responsible man with integrity, I was invisible....go figure.
sweetjasmine Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 You're kidding, right? I'm intensely drawn by men who show integrity AND are interesting, which includes intelligence. Me too. I guess we're not women. Or maybe we're just freaks of nature.
callingyouuu Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 I think women generally have a good subconscious idea of what they're interested in, but they don't always know what that is in words. Putting it in terms of the criterion you've given, I think it'd be something like this: Men with integrity who are interesting > Men without integrity (which correlates with being unpredictable and "exciting", whether in a good or bad way) > Men with integrity who are not interesting. Basically, being entertaining trumps integrity, but if you have both, you'll kill the competition. The only issue is, the people in the integrity + interesting section are very few and far between, so men without integrity often seem to win out.
Woggle Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Men tend to be just as stupid at picking a good woman. There are tons of women who get by on good looks that have little to offer in other areas.
sally4sara Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 For sex or for a proper long term relationship? Slight difference. Oh classic effin answer! So you not only have no integrity, you don't use it as a filter when choosing either! Heal thy self. Blind leading the blind.
sally4sara Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Err, I was talking about men in general, in response to Woggle's analysis of men in general. Did I at any point say it was my personal choice? But since you're at it. Yes, when it comes to picking a sex partner why would I care if she's stupid? As long as I'm not leading her on, we just aim to have sex. I don't need her to have an intelligent conversation with me whilst giving me a blowjob. Stupid people can have integrity. You're response to him wasn't about smart versus dumb. It was about people who are worthwhile concerning integrity; he stated men stupidly choose women too - not that men choose stupid women. You can't ever remember your thread topic? Intelligent debate strikes AGAIN! Your reply shows you do not use integrity as a filter either because a woman does not need to have any for you to risk your health and reputation. Smoooooth. It is probably a good thing you block yourself so often!
sally4sara Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Ah sorry, got this mixed up with the other thread. Yeah if I was going to pick a long term partner I would want a good woman. For a sex partner that's not important. Risk my health? Always wear a condom. Reputation? What reputation? Do I look like I care about reputation? But why would having sex with a woman affect rep anyway? If a person is constantly exposing themselves to low character people, they become damaged goods. Its an industry term I think. If you will screw low chics, why would a good one want to be in that category? Condoms are less than 80% effective at preventing the spread of most STDs and have even less an effect of preventing the spread of the ones that are caused by skin to skin contact such as herpes and HPV. You also risk accidental breeding. It is always important.
sally4sara Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) Good points. 1) Hence why I don't screw chicks randomly anymore. Most players are unaware the lifestyle controls them more than they control the lifestyle. But I don't need to be a psychopath to understand the characteristics of a psychopath, or any human being with a particular behavioral pattern. 2) When it comes to herpes. The risks are much higher with an active lesion. I have never seen an active lesion on a girl, and if I did I would run away. Wearing a condom and making sure there are no lesions decreases the chance significantly. 3) HPV is not going to make my dick fall off. Men are just the carriers. Yes, it's my responsibility not to spread STDs, but that removes the fear factor. Quite frankly crossing the road might get you killed too. So does smoking, yet plenty of people smoke. I'm not saying that's an excuse. But if someone is aware of the consequences of their actions and does it anyway, that person has no one else to blame when they partake in that action. I would never blame anyone other than myself if my dick starts falling off. Anyway, I'm not sleeping around, but thanks for the advice. However, if I was to pick a sex partner I wouldn't care if she has no integrity. Good to know you don't care (or see the wisdom in) preventing the good woman you might wish to marry someday from catching HPV from your no-integrity-as a-filter-using past simply because YOU can't have ovarian cancer. Edited October 9, 2009 by a LoveShack.org Moderator
sally4sara Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 haha, you read all that and you conveniently chose to ignore "It's my responsibility not to spread STDs" Like I would get involved with a girl without first getting a STD test. See, this is why I have no remorse for what I post here. Half the people here are biased hyporites that are not as nice as they make themselves out to be. They don't dig into the facts, they just form judgements that are hardly accurate in the least. It's how lynch mobs form. Half the people here given the chance just want to burn someone at the stake. I like exposing that, and that's why I post controversial topics. Terms like "hypocrite" and "judgmental" are what people use as a shield when someone holds a mirror up to the way they've implicated themselves. Do you really think I'll forget everything you've said just because you use those terms? Those terms don't scare me. Read your posts. Or better yet, instead of trying to scam people with a bogus book, compile them all into your book. I DARE you to give a copy to each girl you try to date. You obviously can't see yourself so maybe their responses will help you build better character.
Rudderless Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Plenty of men that have shifted between periods of lacking integrity or having integrity have noticed they attrack more women when lacking integrity. You'reAsian even said it himself. I agree about having no integrity, it's just easier when you don't care what you're doing, it's a skill-less method by numbers. I've been there, it's not really that interesting at all, it's quite the opposite, you make your intentions pronounced lot more and muscle out the opposition. Only a female could link having no integrity with somehow being interesting. To use an analogy, it's a bit like football in the UK - playing an anti-football style to win at all costs - hoofing the ball up the front, kicking the opposing players off the pitch, and parking the bus in front of the goal is easier to do than playing a well crafted, elegant, attacking, entertaining style, simply because any team can do the former by getting eleven physically strong players in but it takes a boat load of quality to stick to true footballing principles and get results. This is my experience of life in general. A bit like females you'll find more teams seeking out the untalented physical players rather than the skilled ones quite simply because they're not prepared to take a risk :)
Rudderless Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 haha, oh come on, if you're going to use football (soccer) as an example, you got to use the diving and rolling around whenever someone gets their shins tapped. Ah no, not UK football, we frown upon it here. That would be Italy, land of the diving art form, and the butt-pinch as a substitute for a chat up line
sally4sara Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Btw, come to think of it. I flagged you for wanting me to go sterile. Curious if the admins are fair and actually do anything about it. See, even when I make fun of people. I have never asked for harm to come to anyone. Especially wishing them to go sterile. You should examine your so called integrity, and reflect upon that. I am reflecting - with no infraction as yet. You keep on not reflecting and instead starting redundant threads. I am curious how one can actually recognize hypocrisy without being privileged to the person's works and life. Nothing I've said to you do I not apply to my own life. Practicing a risky sex life (when you finally get some) can cause sterility. But I didn't wish you to catch an STD and go sterile. I said I hope that you are currently already sterile and possibly unaware. That way you won't accidentally breed with the women who's characters you don't care about but will still stomach screwing.
Woggle Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 For sex or for a proper long term relationship? Slight difference. I see tons of couples out where the only reason I can see for the man being with her is that she is attractive.
sweetjasmine Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Why do so many women point at themselves as if they're representative of their entire sex? Because you're pointing to some women as if they're representative of their entire sex? Hey, if it's okay to make generalizations about a whole gender based on the actions of a few, why isn't it okay for someone of that same gender to respond and say, "I'm not like that"?
sumdude Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 But since you're at it. Yes, when it comes to picking a sex partner why would I care if she's stupid? As long as I'm not leading her on, we just aim to have sex. I don't need her to have an intelligent conversation with me whilst giving me a blowjob. Maybe not, but it sure would be entertaining. Baby, recite some Wordsworth for me.. " Mmff.. herrrmm.. ..mmph.. shhlurrp."
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