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What most women currently use obviously ain't working......

 

Is it just an inability to spot the difference between a decent man and a jerk?

 

Or is it impossible to control impulses, and a woman needs to jump on a man she feels attraction for without checking first if he's going to be a good long term partner?

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Some of us do.

 

Generalizations should have no place in your book HKizzle. Appeal to the broad base. ;)

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Some of us do.

 

Generalizations should have no place in your book HKizzle. Appeal to the broad base. ;)

 

Oh trust me, I use SOME a lot. :laugh:

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Some ladies are just stuck in an unhealthy pattern of choosing bad partners. You don't want those type of unstable people for an intimate relationship anyway.

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Some ladies are just stuck in an unhealthy pattern of choosing bad partners. You don't want those type of unstable people for an intimate relationship anyway.

 

Agreed.

 

I was just throwing the question out there to see what some people come up with. Especially since SOME :p of the women on this board have this pattern.

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I think some women (and men too) cannot feel complete unless there is a person in their life. So when they get the attention from the opposite sex, are being told how wonderful and beautiful they are, they ignore any red flags about the quality of person they are getting involved with. There is so much out there about how sex makes a relationship so they believe if the sex is good then the relationship is good too. And of course, we are all on our best behavior and are wonderful and perfect when we are first trying to attract someone to have a serious relationship with us.

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Hkizzle, Alot of women have the ability to spot the difference between a decent man and a jerk. Alot of women get fooled by and lied to by what they sincerely believe is a good man. You might as well ask the question:" Why do men not act with more integrity towards women?" You seem to be holding women up to a higher standard then you hold men. As if women should be responsible and control the lack of integrity that a man can have.

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Hkizzle, Alot of women have the ability to spot the difference between a decent man and a jerk. Alot of women get fooled by and lied to by what they sincerely believe is a good man. You might as well ask the question:" Why do men not act with more integrity towards women?" You seem to be holding women up to a higher standard then you hold men. As if women should be responsible and control the lack of integrity that a man can have.

 

I post crap about women and men. You only ever pick up the crap about women. Why are you the most insecure on this forum about the way men look at women?

 

I mean it oozes out in every single post you make.

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I think some women (and men too) cannot feel complete unless there is a person in their life. So when they get the attention from the opposite sex, are being told how wonderful and beautiful they are, they ignore any red flags about the quality of person they are getting involved with. There is so much out there about how sex makes a relationship so they believe if the sex is good then the relationship is good too. And of course, we are all on our best behavior and are wonderful and perfect when we are first trying to attract someone to have a serious relationship with us.

 

Yeah, this is a good response. ;)

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I post crap about women and men. You only ever pick up the crap about women. Why are you the most insecure on this forum about the way men look at women?

 

I mean it oozes out in every single post you make.

 

No, you just post crap about women mostly. But at least you admitted to the crap you post about women.

 

This isn't a matter of my insecurity. Trying to deflect it as such is a very weak attempt at focusing off the real topic. I think you see the intelligence responses in my posts and can't argue them. :)

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I disagree. From what i've witnessed over the years, many women who date bad guys, jerks, antisocial, etc, are the first to do the approaching! If these guys are average to good looking they rarely have to make any effort at all in attracting a great woman.

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Unless you've known a man all your life or have psychic (psycho) powers, it's impossible to differentiate sometimes. And, underneath every nice guy, there's a jerk and underneath every jerk, there's a nice guy. Everyone has multiple facets. No one is a two-dimensional cartoon.

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What most women currently use obviously ain't working......

 

Is it just an inability to spot the difference between a decent man and a jerk?

 

Or is it impossible to control impulses, and a woman needs to jump on a man she feels attraction for without checking first if he's going to be a good long term partner?

evolution-wise having "integrity" was actually a detriment. for example in caveman days those who had integrity wouldn't last long. those cavemen that were willing to be devious and lie and cheat and steal were more easily able to procure and keep resources (i.e. food, shelter) for their cavewomen...

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evolution-wise having "integrity" was actually a detriment. for example in caveman days those who had integrity wouldn't last long. those cavemen that were willing to be devious and lie and cheat and steal were more easily able to procure and keep resources (i.e. food, shelter) for their cavewomen...

 

Yeah I agree with this. Go getters are rarely honest.

 

Not many at the top are like Warren Buffet, most are like Bill Clinton.

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Unless you've known a man all your life or have psychic (psycho) powers, it's impossible to differentiate sometimes. And, underneath every nice guy, there's a jerk and underneath every jerk, there's a nice guy. Everyone has multiple facets. No one is a two-dimensional cartoon.

 

You know I'm watching this show called "Lie to me". Fascinating show about body language and how to spot liars, and the woman on the show consistently misses that her husband is cheating on her even though she's an expert on the subject. Whilst everyone else on the team can see it.

 

I know, no one, men or women want to accept they might be with the wrong person. Hence it pays to have tough filters before one gets emotionally attached.

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What most women currently use obviously ain't working......

 

Is it just an inability to spot the difference between a decent man and a jerk?

 

Or is it impossible to control impulses, and a woman needs to jump on a man she feels attraction for without checking first if he's going to be a good long term partner?

 

How do you know what is and isn't working for women? Why do you care?

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You know I'm watching this show called "Lie to me". Fascinating show about body language and how to spot liars, and the woman on the show consistently misses that her husband is cheating on her even though she's an expert on the subject. Whilst everyone else on the team can see it.

 

I know, no one, men or women want to accept they might be with the wrong person. Hence it pays to have tough filters before one gets emotionally attached.

Until you know what their relationship was like previous to his cheating, whereby liars will portray themselves as something other than they are to hook you, once you do get emotionally invested, it's too late to look at someone with clear eyes and head. There's no one who has perfect oversight, when they care about someone. For that matter, there's no one perfect, so if you're in a relationship with someone you love deeply, you're going to ignore many warning signs because you feel you know the other person better.

 

It's really easy for third parties to point the finger but when third parties find themselves in a similar situation, you can bet they'll be the same or similar.

 

To use my ex-H as an example, he not only fooled me, he fooled his own family, all his lifelong friends, everyone. No one had any idea that he led a double life. When it hit the fan, everyone sided with me and he was ostracized for a good year. Even his own parents and family were totally disgusted and shocked by his behaviour.

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How do you know what is and isn't working for women? Why do you care?

 

I don't care, I'm just a dumbass. ;)

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Hkizzle, Alot of women have the ability to spot the difference between a decent man and a jerk. Alot of women get fooled by and lied to by what they sincerely believe is a good man. You might as well ask the question:" Why do men not act with more integrity towards women?" You seem to be holding women up to a higher standard then you hold men. As if women should be responsible and control the lack of integrity that a man can have.

 

Exactly! The same applies to both sexes. The same with a man if he see's a beautiful woman who wants him and he's attracted to her he's going to miss some "red flags" on the way to the bedroom.

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I don't care, I'm just a dumbass. ;)

 

And, you're not a dumbass, but I'm puzzled why you keep asking the same questions about women. Have you been hurt by a woman who chose some "bad guy" type over you?

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Maybe one could say that hormones take over and cloud our (men and women) senses when we are around someone who makes us want to mate. It sucks.

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good looking women are attracted to men with money and power...many of these same men have had to cut corners in the integrity department to get to where they are, and to stay where they are.

 

its just a fact of life i guess. and if you're willing to compromise your integrity in your professional life you'll most likely compromise your integrity in your personal life.

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A lot of women can spot the difference. The trouble is that most choose to ignore it and almost never use it as a primary criterion for choosing a mate.

Integrity hasn't gotten anybody laid (or at least not as much as focusing on other things). Women carry pretty solid part of the responsibility for perpetuating predatorial and selfish attitudes towards them - if it is working, why fix it?

 

Although guys are routinely blamed for being "more" superficial, as far as LTRs are concerned most show admirable common sense by sticking to girls with good attitude and character (rather than obsessing over the hottest thing in da hood).

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Wait so men don't chose wrong partners ever? If that were the case none of you would be single and posting here.

 

In the beginning everyone puts their best face forward. You have to spend time with someone and get to know them before you realize they're actually a jerk or jerket. If someone is a jerk from the get go most people won’t see them again, I would assume.

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Its awesome how some women like to throw oranges into the argument when you're talking apples. Shut up and quit filling in the spaces Hkizzle left open with your own personal problems. Jersey Shortie especially. Jeez, she's like...the resident buzzkill bitch of Loveshack. Stuff your oranges.

 

 

Somebody had to say it. Its probably why she's so single and miserable. Nagging her prospects over the ****ing hill never to return. "I like your hair Jersey Shortie" JS: "OH SO MY BODY ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH? DO YOU FEEL THE NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER WOMEN IN THE AREA GOD YOU'RE A WOMANIZING PIG!" JS's Male Prospect: "......wha?"

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