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She tricked me into thinking she was a "good girl." In the end she tooled me, bad. I hadn't had any contact with her in over a week. She sends me a text and calls me last night saying some weirdo won't leave her alone at the bar and if I would come get her.

 

Let me set the stage for the mindset that brought me to the promised land. When I thought she was a "good girl" I was nice and respectful to her. I watched my language for example and listened to what she was saying. Now that I knew she was a dirty, lying, manipulating hor I decided I was going to treat her like one. She had embarrassed me and I honestly didn't care if I ever saw her again. Basically, I was going to use her as an experiment in my personal growth. I was going to be over the top bad boy and attempt to dominate her asss and if I failed miserably, I wouldn't care at all. It was very liberating.

 

I pick her up and drive her home. The whole drive to her place I keep telling myself that this was a dirty hor that I picked up on the street and paid her 20 bucks to be my slave for the night. She was no longer on a pedestal; menatally I had placed her in the gutter where she belonged.

 

We walk in to her place and I tell her to put on some music and I went to digging through her fridge helping myself to her food. I walked into her living room where she was on the couch.

 

For a second there I was thinking ahhh she looks so sweet, I'll sit next to her and make out, but I caught myself with this bullshyt thinking and reminded myself that this was a prostitute I had paid money for. I stood in front of her and commanded her in to come to me. She giggled and said "come sit down." I snapped my fingers and she said she didn't like that. I snapped my fingers again and told her without hesitation to come here. She stared at me for a second to see if I was going to back down. All I said was "NOW!" She came to me and we made out standing in her living room. The whole time I kept reminding myself that this was not a "good girl" but was a hor.

 

The key to all this was I didn't care what she thought and never had any hesitation in my voice. In my mind I had paid for a service and she was in no position to have her opinion heard. If in the end she didn't comply and blew me out I wouldn't care as I didn't even respect this hor and would simply go home.

 

I commanded her to get on her knees in the most congruent way. Again she hesitated and but I didn't waiver. I said "on your knees NOW." And you know what, she did! This after a history of her toying with me and freezing me out in the past. I was like, shyt, this is what I should of been doing the whole time.

 

After a while she said she was going to go take her contacts out and meet me in bed. While she was in the bathroom I remembered how she froze me out the last time we were in bed together leaving me frustrated and blue balled. I again recommitted my brain to the fact that this was my paid hor for the night and I made the rules. So I walked into the bathroom as she was rinsing her mouth out and I grabbed her wrist and forcefully drug her back to the living room. I pulled her pants down around her ankles and very forcefully threw her over the end of the couch. I then proceed to **** her hard with my hand clamped down around the back of her neck. The more she protested with "it's too hard" or "it's too deep at this angle" or whatever else the **** she was mumbling the harder I ****ed her. While I banged her I told her, "You're never gonna amount to nothing because you're just a stupid ***khole. All you've got is your body, that's all I really want."

 

Of course as luck would have it, my plan to bust my nut in her hair was not realized as I could not get off. I have trouble getting off with a condom. Oh well. I then took her to bed where we had sex for a while longer and then again this morning at which time I was able to get off.

 

I found my clothes in the living room and walked out the front door without saying goodbye. She then proceeds to blow up my phone with txts about how I'm a ****ing assshole. Of course about an hour ago she sends a text asking what I'm doing tonight. LOL!

 

Lessons learned: When it comes to hors, you either dominate the bytch and lead her or she is going to tease you and your nice guy act. I had to remind myself constantly during the encounter that I was above her and she was my slave. This caused me to say and do things with the congruency required to get her to comply. When I was leading her with my words, I was actually believing what I was saying so it came across right.

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She's right. You are a ****ing assshole.

 

I'm lucky I haven't gone blind by getting a glimpse into your sick mind.

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She tricked me into thinking she was a "good girl." In the end she tooled me, bad. I hadn't had any contact with her in over a week. She sends me a text and calls me last night saying some weirdo won't leave her alone at the bar and if I would come get her.

 

Let me set the stage for the mindset that brought me to the promised land. When I thought she was a "good girl" I was nice and respectful to her. I watched my language for example and listened to what she was saying. Now that I knew she was a dirty, lying, manipulating hor I decided I was going to treat her like one. She had embarrassed me and I honestly didn't care if I ever saw her again. Basically, I was going to use her as an experiment in my personal growth. I was going to be over the top bad boy and attempt to dominate her asss and if I failed miserably, I wouldn't care at all. It was very liberating.

 

I pick her up and drive her home. The whole drive to her place I keep telling myself that this was a dirty hor that I picked up on the street and paid her 20 bucks to be my slave for the night. She was no longer on a pedestal; menatally I had placed her in the gutter where she belonged.

 

We walk in to her place and I tell her to put on some music and I went to digging through her fridge helping myself to her food. I walked into her living room where she was on the couch.

 

For a second there I was thinking ahhh she looks so sweet, I'll sit next to her and make out, but I caught myself with this bullshyt thinking and reminded myself that this was a prostitute I had paid money for. I stood in front of her and commanded her in to come to me. She giggled and said "come sit down." I snapped my fingers and she said she didn't like that. I snapped my fingers again and told her without hesitation to come here. She stared at me for a second to see if I was going to back down. All I said was "NOW!" She came to me and we made out standing in her living room. The whole time I kept reminding myself that this was not a "good girl" but was a hor.

 

The key to all this was I didn't care what she thought and never had any hesitation in my voice. In my mind I had paid for a service and she was in no position to have her opinion heard. If in the end she didn't comply and blew me out I wouldn't care as I didn't even respect this hor and would simply go home.

 

I commanded her to get on her knees in the most congruent way. Again she hesitated and but I didn't waiver. I said "on your knees NOW." And you know what, she did! This after a history of her toying with me and freezing me out in the past. I was like, shyt, this is what I should of been doing the whole time.

 

After a while she said she was going to go take her contacts out and meet me in bed. While she was in the bathroom I remembered how she froze me out the last time we were in bed together leaving me frustrated and blue balled. I again recommitted my brain to the fact that this was my paid hor for the night and I made the rules. So I walked into the bathroom as she was rinsing her mouth out and I grabbed her wrist and forcefully drug her back to the living room. I pulled her pants down around her ankles and very forcefully threw her over the end of the couch. I then proceed to **** her hard with my hand clamped down around the back of her neck. The more she protested with "it's too hard" or "it's too deep at this angle" or whatever else the **** she was mumbling the harder I ****ed her. While I banged her I told her, "You're never gonna amount to nothing because you're just a stupid ***khole. All you've got is your body, that's all I really want."

 

Of course as luck would have it, my plan to bust my nut in her hair was not realized as I could not get off. I have trouble getting off with a condom. Oh well. I then took her to bed where we had sex for a while longer and then again this morning at which time I was able to get off.

 

I found my clothes in the living room and walked out the front door without saying goodbye. She then proceeds to blow up my phone with txts about how I'm a ****ing assshole. Of course about an hour ago she sends a text asking what I'm doing tonight. LOL!

 

Lessons learned: When it comes to hors, you either dominate the bytch and lead her or she is going to tease you and your nice guy act. I had to remind myself constantly during the encounter that I was above her and she was my slave. This caused me to say and do things with the congruency required to get her to comply. When I was leading her with my words, I was actually believing what I was saying so it came across right.

 

I hope this isn't a true story because if it is I can foresee a court date in your future for date rape.

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I hope this isn't a true story because if it is I can foresee a court date in your future for date rape.

 

I think it's a troll thread. I just can't believe he wrote so much!

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I think it's a troll thread. I just can't believe he wrote so much!

 

Well someone has wayyyy too much free time then. I mean that was like a borderline essay, lol.

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OMG! Are you serious?! Parts of that may have been hot (if you cared for each other) up until you dragged her by the wrist, then started name calling and forcefully f...ing when she said you were hurting her. That does sound like date rape.:eek::mad:

 

You also left out a huge part of the story: What on earth did she do to ever make you think that she deserved to be treated in such an awful disrespectful manner? Giving you blue b.ls? Please. What do you mean she tricked you into thinking she was a good girl? If she is a 'bad' girl, now what does that make you? I hope you feel real good about yourself.

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For some reason, I believe this story. Clearly, this guy has some major issues and he sounds a little psychopathic and disconnected from reality. Some men have this crazy "definition" of what a "real woman" is (ex: sweet, innocent, June Cleaver-type) and anything outside of that, she's a whore to them. He will have a hard time having a meaningful relationship with anyone.

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I found out she was banging some other guy behind my back while I played the gentleman role the whole time:mad: and she was a bad girl pretending to be good. It turns out this guy she was seeing was a local pot dealer from the neighborhood. She even had the audacity to come over to my house one night after sleeping with him.

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No matter what she did, it does not justify your choice of actions. Her actions may be morally wrong (I am using maybe because we only have your side of story that appears to be highly vindictive), yet it does not give you the moral superiority nor the authority to use a means of violence upon her person. Real gentlemen, or real men, are aware of what choices they have in such situations and choose the right one. Unfortunately, from your actions you seem be to sinking into the same dirt.

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Wow. This is seriously sad.

 

1) Because you actually think what you did deserves some sort of pat on the back.

 

2) Because you actually took the time to brag about it

 

3) Because you put your thing in someone who cheated on you and chumped you like she did

 

4) For thinking anyone on this respectable site would want to read your atrocious attempt at a sexual revenge fantasy

 

5) Because you are obviously lying.

 

People who brag about doing forceful things to another human being are usually looked at as BAD people, not heroes. Please keep your deranged attempts at fetish pornography to yourself. At least you helped my weight loss efforts, as I can't finish my dinner after reading your version of "Revenge of the Nerds: Hate F*ck"

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I think it's a troll thread. I just can't believe he wrote so much!

what's a troll thread?

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It never bordered on rape. For the few minutes when her mouth wasn't occupied by my c0ck or a pillow, she never once said no or stop.

 

I'm not claiming this is the way to do it or that I'm "right." I was performing an experiment, nothing else. Here are the results:

 

Nice guy = said no to me trying to escalate past kissing 3 or 4 different nights. Blue balled me once in bed. Showed up in my presence after having sex with another guy and bragging about it

 

Bad Boy = bolwjob, rough sex, bust a nut on her, two texts and a call to ask what I'm doing Saturday night and to come over and watch the movie "family man", two txt's to get together Sunday during the day, sends me this last night "i need 2 b given it hard again and at 10:30 last night calls and leaves me this voicemail "I really had a good time friday night and wish you would call me back. I just finished using my purple vibrator and am thinking about you."

 

This was a hor, not a good girl. And the results show this is the path. I tried dinner, drinks, humor, stimulating conversation, cultural events, displays of wealth, etc. and her sexual attraction was zero. Most chicks you will game will be getting **** from somewhere at any given time. And she was choosing to get her dose of **** from another man/men who had figured out her riddle. I hadn't figured out the riddle and therefore there was no reward.

 

This is a very hot 26 year old chick with a great ass and big tits; you think that you can just do a palm reading or magic trick and she's going to **** you? She's got 500 guys after her; she could sleep with ANY of them but she can't sleep with ALL of them.

 

I took a chance that what she responded to was plain old pure dominance.

 

As for any chumps out there who think this was bordering on rape, get a clue. I'm not stupid. She was turned on sexually and was having the time of her life. When she told me it was too hard and I then would **** her harder, her response was to then **** back with the same intensity. She won't leave me alone; she's calling me constantly.

 

We all think we've unplugged from the matrix, but we haven't. Look at how women shames and stigmatizes any notion of male power; hell, look at some of the posters on this sight trying to shame me for seducing and ****ing a hottie. **** all that bull****.

 

 

I'm going out with a very high quality girl tonight. In our first phone call I asked her why she hadn't been married; she said because all the guys out there are "momma's boys" and none of them are strong enough to handle her. What does that tell you? I'm going into this with the same mindset I had with the slut. My goal is to **** her tonight. I will act on my desires without hesitation or fear and let's see how it works on a higher class girl. If it fails miserably, I'll report back.

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I'm going out with a very high quality girl tonight. In our first phone call I asked her why she hadn't been married; she said because all the guys out there are "momma's boys" and none of them are strong enough to handle her. What does that tell you? I'm going into this with the same mindset I had with the slut. My goal is to **** her tonight. I will act on my desires without hesitation or fear and let's see how it works on a higher class girl. If it fails miserably, I'll report back.

 

So your going to treat a woman who has never done anything wrong to you like a slut also? Wow, you are sad. If that was me and you tried to pull that type of s**t, you'd wind up speeding home in your car and crying like the little b**ch you are. I don't put up with bull **** and I hope this woman doesn't either.

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...Really? No one else thought this post was hilarious? LOL! I'm dying over here. Maybe it's just because I'm still drunk.

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I know a guy who is exactly like this. It could very well be true, but even if this particular story isn't true - it happens often enough.

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So your going to treat a woman who has never done anything wrong to you like a slut also? Wow, you are sad. If that was me and you tried to pull that type of s**t, you'd wind up speeding home in your car and crying like the little b**ch you are. I don't put up with bull **** and I hope this woman doesn't either.

 

love it, love it , love it.

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So your going to treat a woman who has never done anything wrong to you like a slut also? Wow, you are sad. If that was me and you tried to pull that type of s**t, you'd wind up speeding home in your car and crying like the little b**ch you are. I don't put up with bull **** and I hope this woman doesn't either.

 

While the OP does sound like borderline rape, it matters not if she is still contacting him. Not sure wether I believe it or not, but it's entertaining nonetheless, and, some girls are just so messed up this could be true.

 

But as for aerogurl87's comment... any girl that could do that, or even thinks they could, to an even moderately healthy guy, probably isn't that attractive anyway. (I'm picturing either man-ish features, or some kind of weapon- neither of which are attractive)

 

You're clearly worked up over the OP aerogirl87. Relax.

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But as for aerogurl87's comment... any girl that could do that, or even thinks they could, to an even moderately healthy guy, probably isn't that attractive anyway. (I'm picturing either man-ish features, or some kind of weapon- neither of which are attractive)

 

What the hell does a weapon have to do with attractive?! What you are saying is you don't aggressive girls attractive and the real question is, WTF does that matter in regards to this thread?

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I think this sounds like scenarios that phsychologically trigger serial killers.......You seem to be upping the stakes pretty rapidly, scary stuff if true

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Revenge does feel good, so does controlling women, so does the sex. It is infinitely preferable to being an AFC victim. when done right, the "treat 'em like a hor" mentality is the way to go, and it is what they respond to on a primeval level. It's part of maintaining the frame.

 

I don't have a problem with treating a woman like ***** to get them into bed. It is preferable to treating them like queens, because as we all know which one produces results.

 

I'm all about avoiding situations that compromise your self worth. But this isn't one of them. Who the ***k CARES if she had proven herself to be a worthless cvm dumpster? It's great that she did because now she can be "used" for that purpose with no illusions that she is some kind of angel. Why dispose of a perfectly good sperm receptacle?

 

I think what's buggin a lot of guys about this scenario is that one methodology didn't produce results and another did. Nice, sensitive, courteous behaviors coming from a conditioned mindset that says women are to be respected by default did not produce a desired result of getting her intimacy / sexuality. Shift gears into a dominant mindset and nothing-to-lose behaviors, and bang! desired results appear. It's a classic Nice vs Jerk disconnect and this makes guys unaccustomed to it uncomfortable.

 

The night in question, I kept repeating in my mind over and over and over and over that this was a prostitute that I had paid money for. I made that thought become my reality and I operated from a postion of superiority to her. And it worked. Since that next morning when I left her house, my game with young women has sky rocketed. I am cocky and funny; I bust on them and they laugh; I order them around with a wink, etc. I am saying some crazy shyt and they are eating it up. I have very young girls blushing and acting all silly around me when I see them a couple days after I first busted on them. I had a college girl sitting next to me on the plane follow me out to the parking ramp to talk to me more after I completly dominated her in a very humerous way. I've got the 22 year old very hot daughter of a woman I used to bang having her mom call me to tell me her daughter and BF just broke up and we should go out. Now, could I game my way into all they young girls pants? No, not yet, but I'll get there. I just need more experience. Oh, and that 22ish hottie at the gym who I smacked on the ass that same morning, she is all over me and I could take her if I had the balls to escalate. I'll get there.

 

You can read about this shyt for 10 years on the internet but until you actually do something to shift the frame to where it belongs, you are going to struggle.

 

Do I think all women are hors? No. Do I think they are all cvm dumpsters? No. Do I think strippers deserve to be beaten? No. Did I give a coniving, 26 year old hottie exactly what she required to spread her legs and leave her feeling massive attraction for me? Yes.

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Revenge does feel good, so does controlling women, so does the sex. It is infinitely preferable to being an AFC victim. when done right, the "treat 'em like a hor" mentality is the way to go, and it is what they respond to on a primeval level. It's part of maintaining the frame.

 

I don't have a problem with treating a woman like ***** to get them into bed. It is preferable to treating them like queens, because as we all know which one produces results.

 

I'm all about avoiding situations that compromise your self worth. But this isn't one of them. Who the ***k CARES if she had proven herself to be a worthless cvm dumpster? It's great that she did because now she can be "used" for that purpose with no illusions that she is some kind of angel. Why dispose of a perfectly good sperm receptacle?

 

I think what's buggin a lot of guys about this scenario is that one methodology didn't produce results and another did. Nice, sensitive, courteous behaviors coming from a conditioned mindset that says women are to be respected by default did not produce a desired result of getting her intimacy / sexuality. Shift gears into a dominant mindset and nothing-to-lose behaviors, and bang! desired results appear. It's a classic Nice vs Jerk disconnect and this makes guys unaccustomed to it uncomfortable.

 

The night in question, I kept repeating in my mind over and over and over and over that this was a prostitute that I had paid money for. I made that thought become my reality and I operated from a postion of superiority to her. And it worked. Since that next morning when I left her house, my game with young women has sky rocketed. I am cocky and funny; I bust on them and they laugh; I order them around with a wink, etc. I am saying some crazy shyt and they are eating it up. I have very young girls blushing and acting all silly around me when I see them a couple days after I first busted on them. I had a college girl sitting next to me on the plane follow me out to the parking ramp to talk to me more after I completly dominated her in a very humerous way. I've got the 22 year old very hot daughter of a woman I used to bang having her mom call me to tell me her daughter and BF just broke up and we should go out. Now, could I game my way into all they young girls pants? No, not yet, but I'll get there. I just need more experience. Oh, and that 22ish hottie at the gym who I smacked on the ass that same morning, she is all over me and I could take her if I had the balls to escalate. I'll get there.

 

You can read about this shyt for 10 years on the internet but until you actually do something to shift the frame to where it belongs, you are going to struggle.

 

Do I think all women are hors? No. Do I think they are all cvm dumpsters? No. Do I think strippers deserve to be beaten? No. Did I give a coniving, 26 year old hottie exactly what she required to spread her legs and leave her feeling massive attraction for me? Yes.

 

I don't want to speak for anyone else, but I don't think anyone was really offended by the "idea" in your post. Some people like the domination thing. THAT's fine. If the girl LIKED it, THAT'S fine too. BUT the way you said it made you sound like a criminal. There are better ways to try to get across that the girl wouldn't put out until you played rough with her. It just sounded like someone bragging about torturing an animal or something. Seriously.

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What the hell does a weapon have to do with attractive?! What you are saying is you don't aggressive girls attractive and the real question is, WTF does that matter in regards to this thread?

 

The point was that she's hating on him for his little experiment and talking about how she would do things to him that would make him cry. I was pointing out that that kind of aggressiveness is a manly trait and not attractive in a woman.

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The point was that she's hating on him for his little experiment and talking about how she would do things to him that would make him cry. I was pointing out that that kind of aggressiveness is a manly trait and not attractive in a woman.

 

Wow. hate-f*cking someone is a "little experiment"?? And women who stick up for themselves to nerds who try to tell them things like "on your knees now" are unattractive? I don't think she meant that she would beat him up PHYSICALLY. I 'm guessing she just meant she'd go off on him for speaking to her lke that. I certainly would berate him VERBALLY if he tried those things with me. That makes us aggressive? Wow, I hope you never have a daughter.

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