BlueHarvest Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 If all he is here to do is to incite people, which I agree is his ultimate pupose, then posting replies to him is in fact feeding his attention need. The first rule of trolls is do not respond to trolls. For what it's worth, and I know it's hard to do...it really is...but we have all got to stop responding to his threads. Let's be honest, if noone replies to his thread it dies out...gets filtered to the next page. One of two things happen, someone posts in his thread, he gets external validation (the post) and continues to post. If noone posts in it, he posts in it himself in order to "bump" it back to the first page. Essentially at this point we are going to force him to stop with his "inciteful posts" If he stops and starts posting in a more rational manner then we can validate his threads with responses, if he continues with this drivel then just ignore the thread, move on. It'll die out, and if he tries to keep it alive by posting in it again just to "bump" it then we know he is doing nothing more then trolling the LS forums (Which IMO he has been doing all along.) He is currently on my /ignore list and it's rather amusing to watch all the negative rep he's now getting now that more people are catching on to what he is doing. ~BH
torranceshipman Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 I haven't read so many of HKizzle's posts but I have to say, I can't find anything offensive in this particular one. I mean, he's only winding people up a little bit and I agree with him that it isn't a good thing to be overweight or lazy (either gender), that it is unrealistic to want to date super attractive, fit people if you yourself are out of shape, etc. Regardless of being single or having a family - you can always be healthy and you can always find a way to exercise...I agree with that.
Trialbyfire Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 I haven't read so many of HKizzle's posts but I have to say, I can't find anything offensive in this particular one. I mean, he's only winding people up a little bit and I agree with him that it isn't a good thing to be overweight or lazy (either gender), that it is unrealistic to want to date super attractive, fit people if you yourself are out of shape, etc. Regardless of being single or having a family - you can always be healthy and you can always find a way to exercise...I agree with that.It's less about the message and more about the methodology and purpose behind the threads. Methodology and purpose are cruel, since it's solely for personal amusement.
sally4sara Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 I remember your thread about overweight people and your opinion that they cannot expect attractive people to want them. I would say there is a tendency that people seek out partners similar to themselves. But I know people that conflict with this. I dated one; very attractive successful musician who didn't come to terms with his attraction for chubby girls till we were out of school and just friends. I thought I was hot s^!t, but I was not his preference at all. We broke up because we were not compatible as anything but friends; even less compatible than I would have guessed! Your posts don't sadden me or even really upset me. They make me roll my eyes. I'm lucky they're still in my head I've rolled my eyes so much due to your posts. Repetitive. I'm sure you can see, at the bottom of each page, the fact that the topics are not new by the other, similar thread titles. You cannot apply your "wisdom" to your own life in a successful way, yet you think you will help others? You are not too real or honest, because nothing you say is factual. It is all opinion and you have a right to your opinion. Too often though, you present it as fact. This drags down the whole forum because you're also adding nothing new.
Author Hkizzle Posted October 5, 2009 Author Posted October 5, 2009 It's less about the message and more about the methodology and purpose behind the threads. Methodology and purpose are cruel, since it's solely for personal amusement. Yeah, yet people keep amusing me. The funniest thing is I don't start deliberate troll threads, but messages with an actual truthful point, and then people get all butthurt. I mean the reason I do all this is because people take things WAY too seriously. Just look at the men vs women attitudes that pop up in half the threads here. Again the US is the only place I've come across with such strong sentiments. Half of you are actually sexists, without realizing it, and of course no one would admit to it. The other half of the people cry about their relationship woes yet are too lazy to change their situation...............HELLO? That's like sticking your hand on a hot stove and crying out about how painful it is. Stop doing it!
Author Hkizzle Posted October 5, 2009 Author Posted October 5, 2009 I remember your thread about overweight people and your opinion that they cannot expect attractive people to want them. I would say there is a tendency that people seek out partners similar to themselves. But I know people that conflict with this. I dated one; very attractive successful musician who didn't come to terms with his attraction for chubby girls till we were out of school and just friends. I thought I was hot s^!t, but I was not his preference at all. We broke up because we were not compatible as anything but friends; even less compatible than I would have guessed! Your posts don't sadden me or even really upset me. They make me roll my eyes. I'm lucky they're still in my head I've rolled my eyes so much due to your posts. Repetitive. I'm sure you can see, at the bottom of each page, the fact that the topics are not new by the other, similar thread titles. You cannot apply your "wisdom" to your own life in a successful way, yet you think you will help others? You are not too real or honest, because nothing you say is factual. It is all opinion and you have a right to your opinion. Too often though, you present it as fact. This drags down the whole forum because you're also adding nothing new. Everyone keeps using the exceptions to the rule to errr..........justify the exceptions to the rule. As for rolling your eyes, that's the spirit! I never asked anyone to take me seriously. I ask people to either see the humor, or come back with intellectual debate. The people that are crying about what I have to see need to stop being so damn sensitive.
Trialbyfire Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 I'm neither American, obese, out-of-shape, overly-sensitive or are crying the blues about my relationship. And yet, I still find your attitude offensive. This is a relationship forum where people are hurting. What part of this, can't you get through that thick head of yours? I swear you have NPD and I mean that seriously. Get some help.
Author Hkizzle Posted October 5, 2009 Author Posted October 5, 2009 I'm neither American, obese, out-of-shape, overly-sensitive or are crying the blues about my relationship. And yet, I still find your attitude offensive. This is a relationship forum where people are hurting. What part of this, can't you get through that thick head of yours? I swear you have NPD and I mean that seriously. Get some help. Err no, and I quote the main page of this forum "promoting participation in self discovery and RESPONSIBILITY, and to share dating tips" I just don't like to hug people or hold their hands. My support comes from tough love.
Trialbyfire Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 Err no, and I quote the main page of this forum "promoting participation in self discovery and RESPONSIBILITY, and to share dating tips" I just don't like to hug people or hold their hands. My support comes from tough love.Your support has nothing to do with tough love. You don't give a crap about anyone else but yourself and your entertainment. That's not normal.
Trimmer Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 Yeah, yet people keep amusing me. The funniest thing is I don't start deliberate troll threads, but messages with an actual truthful point, and then people get all butthurt. I mean the reason I do all this is because people take things WAY too seriously. Uh, so you do start deliberate troll threads...
Author Hkizzle Posted October 6, 2009 Author Posted October 6, 2009 Uh, so you do start deliberate troll threads... Which part about me posting the truth don't you get? I'm just killing two birds with one stone here. As for TBF. Actually I have a lot of female friends that come to me for relationship advice, and of course I don't talk in the same manner in which I post here. But I post here to learn about people's responses. If people don't like it, I never stuck a gun to their head and forced them to read my threads. Want me to start with a disclaimer from now on?
sally4sara Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 Everyone keeps using the exceptions to the rule to errr..........justify the exceptions to the rule. As for rolling your eyes, that's the spirit! I never asked anyone to take me seriously. I ask people to either see the humor, or come back with intellectual debate. The people that are crying about what I have to see need to stop being so damn sensitive. How can one justify something that just is? If I know someone who does not prefer what you say everyone prefers, there is nothing to justify. It is only an indication that your statement can be nothing more than opinion. It may even be popular opinion, but it remains opinion. Which brings me to: How can anyone have an intellectual debate about personal opinions? I think this whole thread was because you're getting sensitive about no one finding your posts as intellectual as you think it sounds when you practice this crap in front of the mirror in your bathroom.
Trialbyfire Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 As for TBF. Actually I have a lot of female friends that come to me for relationship advice, and of course I don't talk in the same manner in which I post here.Oh? If so, then it's time that you treated people on this site, the same way you treat people in real life. I suspect, no, I'm certain that it's no different. Prove me wrong. I doubt you can.
Author Hkizzle Posted October 6, 2009 Author Posted October 6, 2009 How can one justify something that just is? If I know someone who does not prefer what you say everyone prefers, there is nothing to justify. It is only an indication that your statement can be nothing more than opinion. It may even be popular opinion, but it remains opinion. Which brings me to: How can anyone have an intellectual debate about personal opinions? I think this whole thread was because you're getting sensitive about no one finding your posts as intellectual as you think it sounds when you practice this crap in front of the mirror in your bathroom. Of course you can have intellectual debates about subjective issues. Many things in life are subjective, but that doesn't mean one can't find the best solution or strategy. Even right now we're having an intellectual debate about the merits of debating about opinions. If we didn't do it the only view we would have would be the view we were born with, and both of us would be pretty stupid as a result.
Author Hkizzle Posted October 6, 2009 Author Posted October 6, 2009 Oh? If so, then it's time that you treated people on this site, the same way you treat people in real life. I suspect, no, I'm certain that it's no different. Prove me wrong. I doubt you can. You'll be right too except for one thing. Many times now, I've posted things such as: 1) I am deliberately using people here to stress test opinions 2) I am pushing the limits to see what I can write 3) I am a jerk. At which point have I actually deceived people huh? I'm learning in my own special way, and the thick skinned people that aren't over sensitive often pick up useful information from my threads. The sensitive people however just get pissed off. Boo, friggin hoo. I didn't force them to participate in the exerience.
Trialbyfire Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 Don't like my tough love? Stop being so whiny. Sheesh, you would have thought a full grown man wouldn't get his thong in a twist over a little tough love. Must be the narcissistic side to him.
Author Hkizzle Posted October 6, 2009 Author Posted October 6, 2009 Don't like my tough love? Stop being so whiny. Sheesh, you would have thought a full grown man wouldn't get his thong in a twist over a little tough love. Must be the narcissistic side to him. Yes, this is the bit where the reverse psychology works on me, and I start calling you an insensitive jerk......
Trialbyfire Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 Yes, this is the bit where the reverse psychology works on me, and I start calling you an insensitive jerk...... Awww...here's a tampon to sop up your tears...
Author Hkizzle Posted October 6, 2009 Author Posted October 6, 2009 Awww...here's a tampon to sop up your tears... LOL, that one actually cracked me up. I'll love to tango with you all day, but I need to head out to meet someone. I'll come back later to keep up the good fight.
Trialbyfire Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 LOL, that one actually cracked me up. I'll love to tango with you all day, but I need to head out to meet someone. I'll come back later to keep up the good fight. Nah, I'm bored now, so you're going to have to play with yourself later.
Trimmer Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 1) I am deliberately using people here to stress test opinions 2) I am pushing the limits to see what I can write 3) I am a jerk. Well, at least we agree. I never said you were deceiving people. I just wanted to make the points you made above. *plonk*
Author Hkizzle Posted October 6, 2009 Author Posted October 6, 2009 Well, at least we agree. I never said you were deceiving people. I just wanted to make the points you made above. *plonk* Right, you want to make a point I'VE ALREADY MADE! ...............
BobSacamento Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 Time to start a new thread dude, this one has fizzled out.
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