Jersey Shortie Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 You summed it up well there Remy. As long as they get to pull one out, it's all good. Who cares that women are treated a certain way that is derogatory or even mean in spirit. What matters is he got to get off. JerseyShortie, you are being presumptuous. 1) Porn has always existed in one form or another, and men have always been interested in it. This didn't start with the internet, nor even with the advent of photography. And there is nothing wrong with it! Being interested in graphic sexual imagery is, as far as anyone can tell, a normal part of male sexuality. Broadly speaking, only 2 kinds of porn exist: porn aimed at straight men, and porn aimed at gay men. That's it. And so long as male homo sapiens walk the planet there will be a market for porn. Period. Porn has existed in one form or another. Men have always been interested in it. And it didn't start with the internet. What do any of those points have to do with what I have been saying? I've heard all those points before. And they don't do anything in the way of answering my questions. You forget that while those points that I restated you made, are true. That porn has never been around in the quantity and style that it is today. We are bombarded with it. It is too easily accessable. And more men today spend too much time, more time then any other point in history, viewing porn and spending or wasting their time on it. We aren't talking about cave drawlings on a wall where they protrayed normal woman having sex with men. We are talking about porn of today that most men view which are breast enhanced, waif thin, waxed, plucked, make-uped up girl doing all sorts of insance crazy things. More exposure more often. You can't deny or ignore the important of that or how it shifts the way men think about women. Being interested in sexual images is one thing and I can agree is healthy. The consumption, time, amount, and type of porn that men consume today, isn't. Yes there will always be porn. And there will always be men that can give it, up, that choose not to make it a part of their lives, that put it down and learn to enjoy women for who they are and spend time in real life learning about real women instead of living in a fake fantasy world. There are men out there that care about themselves adn their women more then they care about their porn or using weak excuses. 2) No one has a right to tell another person what he or she may look at, read, or think. That is outrageous. No one should allow anyone to make them feel ashamed of their sexuality. Let no one tell you your sexuality is "wrong." Let no one tell you you're a "pervert" because they don't happen to like what you like. If someone tells you, like a child, that you need to ask yourself "some serious questions," because of what you choose to look at, tell them to go f___ themselves. You're kidding right? Men and women have been telling each other since the dawn of time what they should or shouldn't do. Do you know how many men want women to act more like pornstars? Dress liek them in the bedroom and preform the same acts they do? Isn't that trying to make someone else have a certain type of sexuality? Do you know how many men will call women names to shame them for their seuxality? This isn't even about shame or telling anyone what they should or shouldn't be doing. This about an open realisitic and honest look at a medium that. lets be honest, treats women like they are worthless. No one here is a child. I am really confused how you took an open honest conversation and made yourself feel like the child in it. 3) Your "guy" looks at porn. You can count on it. Or he's just really good at hiding it, which is all he really owes you. It's statements like these that only reenforce opinions that porn is really important to men over anything else. If that's what you want to be like as a guy, that's kind of sad. If that's how you want men to be represented, as a sum of their weaknesses and not their strengths, there is something pretty pathetic in that. If that's what you want to amount to, your ability toview porn, or if that's how you want to treat your partner, lie to her face about the real kind of person you are or be proud that you can hide something well from her, all very very sad.
Ross PK Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 Why are people even bothering to argue with JS? She'll never see sense. And her nasty reply to bank1260 proves she's a troll, or she has other issues.
Jersey Shortie Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Can't comment on the actual topic and make a good argument huh.
Author BeTrue Posted December 14, 2009 Author Posted December 14, 2009 I appreciate everyone's point of views. Thank you i have lots to think about. I've watched porn before BEFORE i met my husband. Not impressed but could deal with a certain level of it. If that makes sense. But my hub before he was my hub wanted to watch it with me I said i'm not watching the same tapes you've been doing it with other girls to for years. So a new tape... ha ha who has those anymore... I mean dvd was orderd he called me when it got there and told me. before i got home from work he watched. i was pissed. i wanted to watch it together i thought that was the point of buying a new one. Anyway i never watched and haven't watched it with him at all now. I know i should get over it...
Jersey Shortie Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 BeTrue, why do you discredit your own feelings by saying "I know I should get over it"? He clearly isn't saying to himself " I know I should get over it". Your needs within the relationship are not less important then his. If you agreed to watch it together and he couldn't even be bothered by that little bit to wait, that's really really dangerous for your relationship and shows what he is willing or rather, not willing to put into it. Please don't tell yourself "I know I should get over it" if you feel a certain way about it. Your needs, your feelings are not less important then his. I pesronally think most men should be able to live happy fulfilled lives without turning to porn. And if they can't, they have a real problem. Men might like looking at porn but no man *needs* to. especially if he has a wife that wants to be envovled with him. Please do not place all the responsbility on your own shoulders while he is allowed to behave any way he (or rather his penis) feels. That's not fair.
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