OpenGL Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 I have been in the game for a long time, somewhat unwillingly, but whatever. Although my success has been extremely limited, I'm going to classify myself as an expert in both day game and night game. My qualifications is simply being in and observing the game for a years. Just so there is no ambiguity the age ranged I'm referring too is the 21-30 crowd, although this probably applies well past 30. So are you ready for this secret? Here is it. Look matter. A lot. Whats so secret about this? Looks matter, even more than you think, even more than any woman will EVER admit to you on these forums or in real life. Did you already think looks mattered a lot? Well guess what, it matters even more than that. Undoubtedly there are going to be women swarming on this thread either stating I don't know what I am talking about and give me some kind of anecdotal evidence of themselves or one of their friends dating a fat/ugly guy. My advice is to ignore it and just accept the real truth. Yes some ugly guys get decent looking women but statistically this just the effect of the law of large numbers. So in what way do looks matter and why is it so important? Well, the thing is with women, if they are not attracted to you within the first few seconds of seeing you, you are done. There is no amount of game, charm, sweet talking, personality, or anything that will make you sexually attracted to them. After the first few seconds of her sizing you up, if shes already decided she is not sexually attracted to you for the rest of the conversation everything you say to her will go into one ear and out there other. She will have zero interest in what you are saying. There will never be an instance where you introduce yourself to a woman, and she is not initially attracted to you but you somehow talk your way into her pants (and by this I don't mean literally talk your way into her fcking you that night, I mean making her eventually sexually attracted to you). So yes, women are very shallow and are very selective (based purely on looks) as to who they will sleep with, way more so than men. Don't fall for conventional wisdom of men being more shallow or more visually orientated than women. They are not. That garbage was put out there by feminist.
loveslife Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 I think you're right, OpenGL. Thank you for putting that out there. I hope nobody disagrees with you because they'd be wrong.
loveslife Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Oh, but it's not just looks. We like money, too.
Lucky_One Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 I always trust experts whose success is self-reported as extremely limited.
Author OpenGL Posted September 28, 2009 Author Posted September 28, 2009 Oh, but it's not just looks. We like money, too. Very true, but the amount of money it takes for money to start becoming a factor is not attainable by 99% of people. Women don't start to latch onto men with money until you're at the 500k+/year range or net worth into the 10+ millions.
loveslife Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Very true, but the amount of money it takes for money to start becoming a factor is not attainable by 99% of people. Women don't start to latch onto men with money until you're at the 500k+/year range or net worth into the 10+ millions. I don't need a guy to have that much for me to go after his for his money. As long as he can buy me Slurpees at the 7-11 I'm set to go.
2sure Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Women don't start to latch onto men with money until you're at the 500k+/year range or net worth into the 10+ millions. Soooo...unless a man is a multi-millionaire... You would rather date a good looking unemployed high school grad than an ambitious and six figure earning man who was less good looking than the slacker? Thank God for women like you. You date the a**holes and leave the good guys for the rest.
espec10001 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Wow OpenGL, you have really opened my eyes! Can I have your autograph because you are so amazing?
loveslife Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Wow OpenGL, you have really opened my eyes! Can I have your autograph because you are so amazing? It's like he shined a light where there was once only dark. I am amazed he figured out our secrets.
aerogurl87 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Ok I think looks matter a little bit, but beauty is fleeting unlike personality which is forever. So I'd rather go out with a decent looking man who can stimulate my mind and emotions until I feel elevated to the highest point of ecstasy, then be with some hot guy who has nothing to offer me in the mental or emotional department.
Trialbyfire Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Thanks for helping me figure myself out. For the life of me, I couldn't figure out what attracted me to certain men and what men made me want to vomit. It's great to have a #1 priority of looks and the exact dollar figure that makes a man attractive!
loveslife Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Thanks for helping me figure myself out. For the life of me, I couldn't figure out what attracted me to certain men and what men made me want to vomit. It's great to have a #1 priority of looks and the exact dollar figure that makes a man attractive! I know! I can finally sleep at night.
espec10001 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 It's like he shined a light where there was once only dark. I am amazed he figured out our secrets. I'm a guy btw, and any time a GUY makes claims to understand women, there is no point in listening! At least I can admit that I have a terrible time with women because *I* am crazy, I admit it. But I've learned it isn't female's fault! I'd find it more interesting if OpenGL could reveal the secrets of grasshopper food selection, that's more believable.
Trialbyfire Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 I know! I can finally sleep at night. Yup, no more tossing and turning. Now you know who to target so don't waste any time on men who aren't drop-dead gorgeous or making bank as defined by the OP, or better yet, both!! Are all you ladies listening? Stop wasting time with guys who don't fit the OPs exact criteria!!
loveslife Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 I'd find it more interesting if OpenGL could reveal the secrets of grasshopper food selection, that's more believable. Grasshoppers are herbivores and they're not at all picky about which plants they eat.
espec10001 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Grasshoppers are herbivores and they're not at all picky about which plants they eat. Aww but I'd like to imagine grasshoppers don't eat EVERY plant. I mean after trying everything you'd think they'd stay away from ones that made them sick? If they can eat any plant they want and NOT get sick then I am jealous
EricaH329 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 This thread makes my stomach turn a little bit. Do you know how many guys there are out there that are very attractive and have a great personality to go with it?? If you don't... there aren't many. Realistically, I think everyone (including males) would rather be with an attractive person with a great personality. But, it doesn't work like that. Yes, you can usually tell if someone is so ugly to the point that their personality wouldn't do anything for them in your eyes, but the majority of the population doesn't discount the average looking person. In my opinion, you could be the hottest man alive with the crappiest personality and I wouldn't want to come near you. Might want to sleep with you, but definitely not date you. Looks only go so far.
loveslife Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Aww but I'd like to imagine grasshoppers don't eat EVERY plant. I mean after trying everything you'd think they'd stay away from ones that made them sick? If they can eat any plant they want and NOT get sick then I am jealous Well, I imagine some grasshoppers have allergies to some plants. And of course the little ones probably go through phases where, say, they'll only eat yellow plants. Things like that.
samspade Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 I have been in the game for a long time, somewhat unwillingly, but whatever. Although my success has been extremely limited, I'm going to classify myself as an expert in both day game and night game. My qualifications is simply being in and observing the game for a years. Just so there is no ambiguity the age ranged I'm referring too is the 21-30 crowd, although this probably applies well past 30. So are you ready for this secret? Here is it. Look matter. A lot. Whats so secret about this? Looks matter, even more than you think, even more than any woman will EVER admit to you on these forums or in real life. Did you already think looks mattered a lot? Well guess what, it matters even more than that. Undoubtedly there are going to be women swarming on this thread either stating I don't know what I am talking about and give me some kind of anecdotal evidence of themselves or one of their friends dating a fat/ugly guy. My advice is to ignore it and just accept the real truth. Yes some ugly guys get decent looking women but statistically this just the effect of the law of large numbers. So in what way do looks matter and why is it so important? Well, the thing is with women, if they are not attracted to you within the first few seconds of seeing you, you are done. There is no amount of game, charm, sweet talking, personality, or anything that will make you sexually attracted to them. After the first few seconds of her sizing you up, if shes already decided she is not sexually attracted to you for the rest of the conversation everything you say to her will go into one ear and out there other. She will have zero interest in what you are saying. There will never be an instance where you introduce yourself to a woman, and she is not initially attracted to you but you somehow talk your way into her pants (and by this I don't mean literally talk your way into her fcking you that night, I mean making her eventually sexually attracted to you). So yes, women are very shallow and are very selective (based purely on looks) as to who they will sleep with, way more so than men. Don't fall for conventional wisdom of men being more shallow or more visually orientated than women. They are not. That garbage was put out there by feminist. Ah, the self-limiting beliefs of the beta. I'm glad guys like you exist. Have fun working on your looks. The world is littered with nancy boys who think they can coast on their pretty faces.
Leia Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 OpenGL, what would you advise wealthy, independent women? Who should they look for in terms of a LTR?
cognac Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 From my own experience i have to say the OP is extremely right. Not only do your looks matter in terms of if women are attracted to you, but for the majority of women your looks decide whether they will treat you nicely or with respect. The worst is when women treat people who they are not attracted to poorly, and then make up a reason for why they do it. If you can somehow charm or sweet talk a girl into giving you a shot, trust me, the attraction is always on very thin ice and will wane quickly after the first "hot guy" they see burps in their direction. This has been my experience with women. In the end, looks are what decides who gets the girl who doesn't, etc. To deny this is wishful thinking by feel-gooders.
alphamale Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Looks matter, even more than you think, even more than any woman will EVER admit to you on these forums or in real life. of course they matter...ask any man who was overweight and then lost 100lbs and how it affected his dating life.
espec10001 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Well, I imagine some grasshoppers have allergies to some plants. And of course the little ones probably go through phases where, say, they'll only eat yellow plants. Things like that. Then grasshoppers really do possess the force like I once saw on the billboard. I'm just having fun
loveslife Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Then grasshoppers really do possess the force like I once saw on the billboard. I'm just having fun When I was a little girl we had pet grasshoppers we named Luke and Leia.
Leia Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 When I was a little girl we had pet grasshoppers we named Luke and Leia. Leia turned into a beauty, didn't she?
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