Lauriebell82 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 One of my friends got laid off about 6 months ago and he is having trouble "with the ladies" (his words). He says that things go great until his date asks what he does. Being unemployed myself for the time being, I would also be curious how men would react to my being unemployed if I was still on the market (I'm engaged). Any opinions or experiences to share?
sb129 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 LB, is this thread a wise idea? You are already feeling a little under-confident about your employment status. Other peoples opinions on employment status shouldn't matter to you, as the MAIN people who matter are you and your fiance, and you both have an understanding about your current situation. Your fiance is being supportive of you- which is all that counts right now.
Author Lauriebell82 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Posted September 28, 2009 LB, is this thread a wise idea? You are already feeling a little under-confident about your employment status. Other peoples opinions on employment status shouldn't matter to you, as the MAIN people who matter are you and your fiance, and you both have an understanding about your current situation. Your fiance is being supportive of you- which is all that counts right now. I'm not in the situation so it doesn't matter what others say. I was just starting the thread for discussion, as it came up in another thread the idea about how not having a job effects dating. This is more of a dating thing, like first or second date.
sb129 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Well, you probably already know the answer- I know ALOT of people on LS wouldn't date someone who was unemployed. I just didn't want any negative comments about unemployment to knock your confidence or focus. Just looking out for you.
Enema Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 There was a thread about this last week. I wouldn't date an unemployed person. The dating pool is so big, I can just find someone with a job. I don't want to waste time gambling that the unemployed person is really a winner going through a temporary setback. For all I know, they're a loser who never wants to work and just lies about it.
Tony T Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 One of my friends got laid off about 6 months ago and he is having trouble "with the ladies" (his words). He says that things go great until his date asks what he does. Being unemployed myself for the time being, I would also be curious how men would react to my being unemployed if I was still on the market (I'm engaged). Any opinions or experiences to share? I don't think men are nearly as concerned about a woman's employment status and a woman would be concerned about a man's. Women are looking for a man who can take care of a family she is wanting to create and a man without a job does not fit the ideal for that purpose.
jerbear Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 One of my friends got laid off about 6 months ago and he is having trouble "with the ladies" (his words). He says that things go great until his date asks what he does. Being unemployed myself for the time being, I would also be curious how men would react to my being unemployed if I was still on the market (I'm engaged). Any opinions or experiences to share? I am not in his shoes but I do understand that being laid off, both guys and gals, can be detrimental. It depends on the who and situation. I don't really care about the woman's employment status. She has to have ambition and the ABILITY to have a career. I personally do not want a housewife. In my personal experiences, women who are single, unemployed, without a college degree, are at a disadvantage but a guy in a similar situation fares far worse.
Pink Cupcakes Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 No, because often it is not their fault they are unemployed. We know the economic situation now. they would need to be actively looking, though. A lot of people who have lost their jobs are not in the frame of mine to be dating. I know when it happened to me, I wasn't in a great state of mind and my focus wasn't on dating but on getting a job.
Pink Cupcakes Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Yah I only date men with at least a bachelors degree. But nowadays many of them are without jobs. Many college grads with stellar grades are unemployed because of the economic situation.
Author Lauriebell82 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Posted September 28, 2009 Thanks for the responses everyone, lots of points of view!! I myself even had a "no college degree, no date" rule. I find educated individuals attractive and can get better jobs. My friend said something funny (to me): "Well I collect unemployment compensation, so I have SOME money." I told him not to use that as a pick up line. lol
allina Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Yah I only date men with at least a bachelors degree. But nowadays many of them are without jobs. Many college grads with stellar grades are unemployed because of the economic situation. That's true, there are always exceptions. Someone who had a great career but is now unemployed due to the economy is a completely different situation than someone who can't hold a job.
jen924 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Wow, so a lot of LS'rs wouldn't date someone who is unemployed? I understand, if the person has no intention of getting a job and is incredibly lazy, and has no education but come on. What if someone is great in every other aspect besides a job? To let someone go because of that, its beyond messed up. I do think its more important to women if men have jobs. Men do not hold it against a woman as much. Don't forget there are some who have medical reasons as to why they are out of work. I think its easy to tell if someone is just a lazy bum or they are having a rough patch. Its not really fair to hold that against someone just because they are currently out of work, especially now days with the economy.
Author Lauriebell82 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Posted September 28, 2009 That's true, there are always exceptions. Someone who had a great career but is now unemployed due to the economy is a completely different situation than someone who can't hold a job. Yes, definately. How would you react ladies if a guy told you he were laid off and was having trouble finding a job?
Art_Critic Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 No degree or job, no date with me. Yah I only date men with at least a bachelors degree. But nowadays many of them are without jobs. Many college grads with stellar grades are unemployed because of the economic situation. Then neither of you would have ever dated me.. I'm just a high school grad.. but I've owned my own company for 31 years.. Boy.. just think of what you would have missed out on.. I think women like to think a degree makes a man look smarter and more income producing but I have to tell you.. not true.. Like PinkCupcakes just said.. even guys with degrees don't have jobs today.. So if you want a guy with a job and a degree you are cutting your dating pool pretty thin.. then add in that the guys left are under 6 foot tall and you have nobody to date LB... I think this has already been posted but I think it comes down to people not wanting to get "stuck" with someone who can't take care of themselves.. We all want our SO's be be self sufficient..
allina Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 To let someone go because of that, its beyond messed up. Don't forget there are some who have medical reasons as to why they are out of work. How is it beyond messed up to have certain requirements for a romantic partner? We're all free to want certain things in a mate. And aside from being on medical leave for a car accident or something I don't see what medical reason a guy my age could have for being unemployed.
Author Lauriebell82 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Posted September 28, 2009 How is it beyond messed up to have certain requirements for a romantic partner? We're all free to want certain things in a mate. And aside from being on medical leave for a car accident or something I don't see what medical reason a guy my age could have for being unemployed. My fiance has a friend who is on disability because he has blown out knees..from football. (he is 27) But I see your point. I definately agree with you, BUT more and more people are going to college and getting educated these days. I am thankful that my fiance has an accounting degree and a CPA otherwise we would be royally screwed now since I lost my job. Shiat happens. I agree with what AC said about the fact that we want our SO to be self suffient.
carhill Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Then neither of you would have ever dated me.. LOL, me neither. I'm surprised my wife did. Effing guys that work with their hands all day with no job prospects. Couldn't even finish college. Loser. I guess she didn't mind when I rehabbed the house she got in the D, eh?
allina Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Then neither of you would have ever dated me.. I'm just a high school grad.. but I've owned my own company for 31 years.. Boy.. just think of what you would have missed out on.. I think women like to think a degree makes a man look smarter and more income producing but I have to tell you.. not true.. For me, it's not just about being able to generate income. I value education. A man who is well read and intellectual is a huge turn on for me.
jerbear Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 LOL, me neither. I'm surprised my wife did. Effing guys that work with their hands all day with no job prospects. Couldn't even finish college. Loser. I guess she didn't mind when I rehabbed the house she got in the D, eh? Then neither of you would have ever dated me.. I'm just a high school grad.. but I've owned my own company for 31 years.. Boy.. just think of what you would have missed out on.. You two are from a different time. Those "days" are over. As BS as it sounds, an BS is the new high school diploma. That said, those with entrepreneurial ability will succeed with or without a degree.
Author Lauriebell82 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Posted September 28, 2009 I agree with Jerbear, you can't get jack in the job world without AT LEAST some type of graduate degree. (in mine anyway) My BA is pretty much worthless. Which is why I got a Masters.
Art_Critic Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 For me, it's not just about being able to generate income. I value education. A man who is well read and intellectual is a huge turn on for me. I have plenty of education... it just didn't come form college.. ie:.. I have forgotten more about computers in the last 24 years then most people will ever know.. I read penthouse .. now that is well read.. Jerbear.. In the last 18 months I have had to turn my company around from bleeding cash of almost 50k a month loss in this new economy.. My company has just finished it's 5th month of aprox 18% profit.. It was done with hard work and the knowledge of my industry from the last 31 years.. So really we aren't in different times... No degree would have helped me do that... I hesitated even posting this because of Murphy's Law, Hopefully Murphy's won't figure out who Art_Critic really is
jerbear Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 I agree with Jerbear, you can't get jack in the job world without AT LEAST some type of graduate degree. (in mine anyway) My BA is pretty much worthless. Which is why I got a Masters. Even those with MS degrees are unemployed. There are so many seasoned CPA's, MBA's, CFA's, etc... on Wall Street. Even JD's are seeing declines in employment. That is just a small section of high paying professional jobs that are just not there.
Art_Critic Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 I agree with Jerbear, you can't get jack in the job world without AT LEAST some type of graduate degree. (in mine anyway) My BA is pretty much worthless. Which is why I got a Masters. I do think that a degree has worth.. I just don't think a degree is the only way someone can be successful I want the best for my son.. If I have anything to do with it, then he will get a degree and not have to do it the way his old man did.. So Jerbear and LB.. you are right about that... A degree can open more dorrs than OJT
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