clv0116 Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 I was wondering that same thing. I don't think I've ever heard a woman say "it's my duty to be pretty for my boyfriend." Regarding the business of pampering and prettifying as a duty, rather than as a bit of harmlessly self indulgent fun, strikes me as a perspective a man rather than a woman would be liable to adopt. My GF says that all the time. I've done some pretty thorough checking and I'm sure she's a woman.
clv0116 Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 .... use for his release when he was using a bunch of other .... It seems like to me your attitude about men is that we just use and use.
ReturnToSender Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 We all know how easily men are swayed by a pretty woman. Men go on and on themselves about how often they look at other women and how many other sexual thoughts they have. In all honesty, what do men expect us to think? That you are so loyal to us? I know right?! The pigs! LoL! Seriously though...all men arent like that. This is a very general view...perhaps saying *some* men would be better? Or the men you know and are around? Crazy concept: theyre not all alike. Not all men are easily swayed by a pretty woman. Ive seen many *many* times a guy check a girl out, then mumble on about how she must be a high-maint gold digging stuck up whatnot. Guys can be as brutal as women when it comes to judging a woman off her looks alone. Its been said a million times over in this thread that any guy who gushes over another woman to his SO is very inappropriate... And there are many guys (some of who even posted in this very thread) who felt the same way and would never disrespect their SO like that. And yeah, I do believe that if any person is instantly threatened or made uncomfortable by the mere presence of another based solely off of their looks...then yeah, they need to reflect inwards to find out why that is.
Jersey Shortie Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 ReturnToSender, are you calling men "pigs"? I don't undestand. Not all men are easily swayed by a pretty woman. Ive seen many *many* times a guy check a girl out, then mumble on about how she must be a high-maint gold digging stuck up whatnot. Guys can be as brutal as women when it comes to judging a woman off her looks alone. What is that suppose to prove? He isn't saying she is a high-maint gold digging stuck up whant not because he isn't attracted to her. He is saying that to put her down for no other reason then he thinks she is hot, and he thinks he doesn't have a chance with her. There isn't any other reason a man wouldn't say that about woman. Is the fact that a man calls a woman a high-maint gold diggering stuck up whatnot suppose to make women around the world feel better next time her man oggles one? Its been said a million times over in this thread that any guy who gushes over another woman to his SO is very inappropriate... And there are many guys (some of who even posted in this very thread) who felt the same way and would never disrespect their SO like that. Okay, and that is fair enough. However, there doesn't always need to be gushing to show clear biological signals. And yeah, I do believe that if any person is instantly threatened or made uncomfortable by the mere presence of another based solely off of their looks...then yeah, they need to reflect inwards to find out why that is. Why though? People are affected, made uncomfortable, sexually excited or otherwise by the mere presence of other indivdiuals daily, minute by minute. Why should feelings of being threatened by that or being uncomfortable be any different.
Die Hard Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 Diehard, I ask this in all seriousness and not to be cheeky. Do you go home and **** like rabbits because you got so excited by oggling all those other women? I see alot of men say this..that they look at other women, or go to a strip club or look at porn and then can be with their women all the more happy. But why should a woman be excited over being the left overs to use for his release when he was using a bunch of other women to get there? That is like the exact opposite of what most women want. Most women want you to be engaged with them. Not every other women that isn't them. Sure, I can understand why you are having a grand old time and this works for you. Sometimes though it seems that men want women to be more lke men..point out hot women and get excited over the women and then be willing to go home and just spread our legs. It works in your relationship and that's fine but it sounds like you want to date another guy that just so happens to have boobs instead of appreciating what you have in your woman. You also never said if you point out attractive men for her. Do you? Honestly jersey, I do not believe you are capable of having a mature conversation regarding men and women. Anything said you will just turn and twist until it fits your notion of men and women. Not trying to be mean but that's just my opinion. You're going to have to figure out a way to get past your anger towards men and I cannot help you with that. It's only something you can do.
ReturnToSender Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 ReturnToSender, are you calling men "pigs"? I don't undestand. I was sarcastically agreeing with you...hence the and "but seriously" that came right after...so as to say, I was didnt seriously think the same way. I went on to explain what I thought about your view on men pretty clearly, but to be sure...what part of it didnt you understand?
Jersey Shortie Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 Honestly jersey, I do not believe you are capable of having a mature conversation regarding men and women. Anything said you will just turn and twist until it fits your notion of men and women. Not trying to be mean but that's just my opinion. You're going to have to figure out a way to get past your anger towards men and I cannot help you with that. It's only something you can do. I wasn't asking you to help me with anything. And I am sorry DieHard but you are not the epitome of maturity here. I asked you some questions in seriousness and I am sorry that you don't want to answer them. I thought they were fair enough questions. was sarcastically agreeing with you...hence the and "but seriously" that came right after...so as to say, I was didnt seriously think the same way. I went on to explain what I thought about your view on men pretty clearly, but to be sure...what part of it didnt you understand? The part where you called men "pigs". Your "sarcastic agreement", had nothing to do with what I said and only had to do with your weak attempt at implying something I never said. there is not one thing in my post that hints at calling men 'pigs'. INfact, you are doing men a worse diservice by perpuating the name calling. It's one thing to be open and discuss the gender's less pretty charcteristics. It's another to call them names. When peopel resort to insinuating that I am calling men names, when it's infact them doing it, they have no other intelligent thing to say.
ReturnToSender Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 The part where you called men "pigs". Your "sarcastic agreement", had nothing to do with what I said and only had to do with your weak attempt at implying something I never said. there is not one thing in my post that hints at calling men 'pigs'. INfact, you are doing men a worse diservice by perpuating the name calling. It's one thing to be open and discuss the gender's less pretty charcteristics. It's another to call them names. When peopel resort to insinuating that I am calling men names, when it's infact them doing it, they have no other intelligent thing to say. Are you okay? I dont think men are pigs...but you know that I very clearly wrote about that the way you generalized men. You seem so angry...they are not all out to get you...I promise! I dont agree with your view, thats all.
Jersey Shortie Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 And I am A-Okay with you not agreeing with my views. But don't make untrue insinuations just because you don't like what I have to say. I am very fair in treating men and women equally with respect. I don't call men names and I don't think of them as "pigs". I love men, but I won't lie and say they are perfect or that they don't furstrate me or hurt me sometimes. None of those things means that I think they are pigs just because I am trying to be hoenst about their faults. And possibly, maybe something can change. Three emotionicons...you must be a little annoyed.
ReturnToSender Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 And I am A-Okay with you not agreeing with my views. But don't make untrue insinuations just because you don't like what I have to say. Three emotionicons...you must be a little annoyed. I am..but not at you...lol! Ironically, Im irked with a man at the moment. Go figure
EvilRomantic Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 He is a jerk. I've never been with a girl unless I thought she was the most beautiful girl in the world (to me of course), simply because you can't really tell who's more beautiful Kirsten Dunst or Charlize Theron at first sight, but when she becomes your girlfriend she becomes more beautiful as you get used to her. One of my ex's used to tell me about how that guy and this were attractive, dumped her for that. For poeple for whom beauty fuels love emotions, this can strain them emotionally.
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