Hkizzle Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Dating is about the survival of the fittest. Just look at how many people are posting threads about getting dumped or used by people that clearly manipulated and deceived them. On the attractive people are mean thread, all these people started spouting all these idealistic theories again about how people SHOULD pick their mates. SHOULD and reality are different things. There SHOULD be world peace, but there isn't. Start developing realistic views of how human beings really are, rather than idealized (we should because that's the good thing to do) views, or get burnt in the dating game.
Mahatma Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Whether you like it or not, many people will not realize that. Accept it.
kizik Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Whether you like it or not, hkizzle is a troll who gets off on offending people.
Author Hkizzle Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 Whether you like it or not, hkizzle is a troll who gets off on offending people. Lol, people with no reason to be offended, won't get offended. People living in la la land, will get offended.
kizik Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Or there's always the chance that people will be perceptive enough to recognize a troll thread, and ignore it.
Author Hkizzle Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 Or there's always the chance that people will be perceptive enough to recognize a troll thread, and ignore it. Obviously, not you.
BCCA Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 I think your problem is that youre trying to start a rational conversation or debate about a thought proces that is very irrational. When you ask most people what they want in a partner, and they give you a little list, I can promise you they dated at least a couple people that had nothing on that list. Its this illogical combination of the right looks/personality/attitude, and there is no defining it. You can help from falling for someone, but you cant help who you find attractive. And let people dream. Anyone who considers themselves a 6 and goes after 10's, good for you. Worse case, theyre no worse off than they started. Me, I like to think Im realistic, but who knows, maybe some of the women I approached didnt agree.
kizik Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Nah, I just thought I'd let you know how lame threads like this are. Wait. What I mean is, can you explain to me how to be attractive and get girls, please? Because I've been failing miserably and could really use your kind expertise. Thanks. It means a lot to me.
D-Lish Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 HK, am I wrong or do you consider yourself to be one of those "fittest"? You believe yourself to be a dating machine, don't you?
Author Hkizzle Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 HK, am I wrong or do you consider yourself to be one of those "fittest"? You believe yourself to be a dating machine, don't you? No far from it. I've been a total jerk in the past. My ex GF I dated on and off for 5 years and totally wasted her time. I've also lived the player lifestyle, totally addictive but unfulfilling. I haven't dated a girl in several months now simply because I don't think I should go around hurting other people if I'm not ready. The point is this, a large % of the attractive males out there are jerks, then there's guys that are too short, don't have good jobs, boring, needy, or weird. You remove all the men that women don't want, ie jerks and men they won't be attracted to, then that means there's a small % of men that most women are competing for. In other words there's a lot of competition, and the fittest will get their men, whilst the ones going on about inner beauty but not making their personality and looks more attractive will have to end up settling for less. It's not something I made up, it's pure logic because that's how it happens in the real world.
Author Hkizzle Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 I think your problem is that youre trying to start a rational conversation or debate about a thought proces that is very irrational. When you ask most people what they want in a partner, and they give you a little list, I can promise you they dated at least a couple people that had nothing on that list. Its this illogical combination of the right looks/personality/attitude, and there is no defining it. You can help from falling for someone, but you cant help who you find attractive. And let people dream. Anyone who considers themselves a 6 and goes after 10's, good for you. Worse case, theyre no worse off than they started. Me, I like to think Im realistic, but who knows, maybe some of the women I approached didnt agree. Ah good, a smart intelligent answer. Yeah dreams are good, IF they inspire people to get off their butts. If I was bitching all day I didn't have a million bucks but too lazy to work hard, and manevour myself into a competitive position at work, then who's to blame?
IrishCarBomb Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 SHOULD and reality are different things. Indeed. You may want to rethink your own analysis of reality while you're at it.
Author Hkizzle Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 Indeed. You may want to rethink your own analysis of reality while you're at it. What's wrong with my analysis? That doesn't add anything to the debate.
IrishCarBomb Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 What's wrong with my analysis? That doesn't add anything to the debate. It certainly does add to the debate. Re-read the premises of your argument. Then re-think my statement. Cheers.
Author Hkizzle Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 It certainly does add to the debate. Re-read the premises of your argument. Then re-think my statement. Cheers. No it doesn't. I can say Martin Luthur King was a white man, and say it adds to this debate. But it doesn't simply because I didn't explain why. Are you going to submit a University paper stating a theory is wrong simple because you wrote on the paper "You may want to rethink your own analysis". It's simply lazy or stupid debators that can't even explain their case. Kizik and yourself have already done it on this thread, BCCA was the only person that offered a view that had substance to it.
IrishCarBomb Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 No it doesn't. I can say Martin Luthur King was a white man, and say it adds to this debate. But it doesn't simply because I didn't explain why. Wrong for two reasons. I didn't just say my comment adds to the debate, it actually does. Second, the fact that I didn't explain why doesn't mean it doesn't apply. I just means that you don't understand how it applies. Are you going to submit a University paper stating a theory is wrong simple because you wrote on the paper "You may want to rethink your own analysis". If I was grading a university paper, I would absolutely respond with "you may want to rethink your own analysis". Let the student actually think and develop some depth instead of me force-feeding them a canned solution. Now, you may think I've just logically shifted the discussion, but my analogy of grading a university paper is clearly more apt then your analogy of submitting a paper. You offered the theory in the original post, I am critiquing it. As a result, grading a thesis is probably a better way to frame the situation. It's simply lazy or stupid debators that can't even explain their case. Kizik and yourself have already done it on this thread, BCCA was the only person that offered a view that had substance to it. It's funny that this paragraph suffers from a very similar conceptual flaw as your original post. Give it some thought if you like... but then again, you may just be convinced that I'm just being stupid and lazy. Cheers.
Author Hkizzle Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 I understand your original point. People should accept reality, but the reality is they don't want to accept reality. Which is probably why Kizik reacted so badly. My point is, if you can then write several paragraphs to explain your original point. Then you could have done it in the first place.
IrishCarBomb Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 I understand your original point. People should accept reality, but the reality is they don't want to accept reality. Which is probably why Kizik reacted so badly. My point is, if you can then write several paragraphs to explain your original point. Then you could have done it in the first place. Oh the irony...
Author Hkizzle Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 Yeah, it was ironic and a good concise point. The problem with posting smart comments on forums, especially sarcasm, satire etc is that it's lost and dilluted by the people that make stupid comments that aren't even meant to be smart. So it becomes very hard to differentiate the meaning.
torranceshipman Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 My boyfriend literally ticks every single box...I don't believe in compromising, or lowering my standards to be 'realistic'. This guy is amazing, and exactly the kind of guy I always hoped to meet...I was single for a long time, enjoyed the single dating life, and was accepting of pretty much being single forever if I didn't meet the right guy (I won't compromise). That is very different from 'not being able to find a good guy', more that, in my view, it is very hard for a person to find true compatibility with another. But it comes eventually and in the meantime you shouldn't lower your standards and compromise, or question your own worth because your single and decide as a result that you should 'be more realistic' about what you want in a partner (i.e. lower standards)... I do agree, however, that sometimes, some people do need to step up and develop themselves in a more substantial way (mind, body and soul) if they are looking to attract a great partner, rather than simply complaining they can't find one they like...
espec10001 Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 And the man who claims to understand reality, we should believe him why?
bayouboi Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 I agree with your OP, Hkizzle and I'm finding it very difficult trying to understand why these other negative posters don't agree with your post.
Author Hkizzle Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 My boyfriend literally ticks every single box...I don't believe in compromising, or lowering my standards to be 'realistic'. This guy is amazing, and exactly the kind of guy I always hoped to meet...I was single for a long time, enjoyed the single dating life, and was accepting of pretty much being single forever if I didn't meet the right guy (I won't compromise). That is very different from 'not being able to find a good guy', more that, in my view, it is very hard for a person to find true compatibility with another. But it comes eventually and in the meantime you shouldn't lower your standards and compromise, or question your own worth because your single and decide as a result that you should 'be more realistic' about what you want in a partner (i.e. lower standards)... I do agree, however, that sometimes, some people do need to step up and develop themselves in a more substantial way (mind, body and soul) if they are looking to attract a great partner, rather than simply complaining they can't find one they like... Good for you. It's much better to be single and happy than to be constantly on the prowl and not know what one wants.
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