Jersey Shortie Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Yeah, I can admit that unfortunetly, I do have a little resentment towards men. But I think I make alot of sound points. Even if they aren't happy-go-lucky.
sumdude Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Yeah, I can admit that unfortunetly, I do have a little resentment towards men. But I think I make alot of sound points. Even if they aren't happy-go-lucky. Appreciate that you can admit it. Do what works for you just consider that you might want to work on that resentment because it may color any relationship you have with a man.
CaliGuy Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Jeez, JS.. while I'm fine with your choices and preferences you may not realize how your posts sometimes scream of resentment towards men. They are extremely slighted. And I love how she appears to know more about me and how I feel than *I* do. Not worth a reply anymore. She has a very stern opinion of things and I'm not going to waste my breath.
CaliGuy Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Yeah, I can admit that unfortunetly, I do have a little resentment towards men. But I think I make alot of sound points. Even if they aren't happy-go-lucky. I think a lot of your points are biased based on your own experiences. You assume that all men are the same, that they all have the same motivation and that they're all bad people. That's just not the case. And frankly, until you get over your resentment you are going to have a hard time meeting and keeping a man in your life. And this will spill over into other aspects of your life as well. Have you thought about going to see a Counselor? And before you get defensive, I've done it and am VERY glad that I did. Appreciate that you can admit it. Do what works for you just consider that you might want to work on that resentment because it may color any relationship you have with a man. Agreed.
Thornton Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 If you don't want to be with women your age and think other people in your generation are this and that, why should a woman who is even younger then you want to settle for you? When you consider it "settling" for yourself? (And not really *you* as in you you.) ... You date younger because of all the reasons you listed and because you do feel like you are more of a prize then women your own age. You don't think women your age are good enough for you yet you expect younger women to view you as good enough for them. What happens when that woman ages? You know, that happens to use women. Children, activity level, baggage from prior reltaionships...these are all things men and women can easily have or not no matter their age. There isn't one person here that doesn't have baggage. To be fair, I don't think this is necessarily about age. CaliGuy has repeatedly said that if he could find a woman close to his age who was still young-looking, active, unattached, and willing to have a family, he would be happy with that. It's reasonable for him to expect those criteria in a partner since he fulfils them himself. Unfortunately 40-ish women tend to be less active and usually already have kids and ex-husbands, plus they're less likely to want (or be able to have) more children. So he dates younger to find women who are at the same life stage as him, i.e. young active women who have never been married and have no kids, who want to settle down and start a family. He doesn't necessarily think he is more of a "prize" than a woman his own age - but I guess he doesn't see why he should deal with kids and ex-husbands etc when he himself isn't bringing any of that baggage to the relationship (I feel the same way about my own relationships - I have no baggage so why should I have to deal with someone else's). It's less about age than it is about the baggage that people of a certain age are likely to have. Of course younger people have baggage too, but you're more likely to find a 25yo with no ex-husbands or kids than a 40yo without those things. I don't see why it's unreasonable to expect to date someone of the same status as yourself, and if finding that means that a person has to date younger then so be it.
MissJoness Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 To be fair, I don't think this is necessarily about age. CaliGuy has repeatedly said that if he could find a woman close to his age who was still young-looking, active, unattached, and willing to have a family, he would be happy with that. It's reasonable for him to expect those criteria in a partner since he fulfils them himself. Unfortunately 40-ish women tend to be less active and usually already have kids and ex-husbands, plus they're less likely to want (or be able to have) more children. So he dates younger to find women who are at the same life stage as him, i.e. young active women who have never been married and have no kids, who want to settle down and start a family. Okay, so whose fault is that? Why didn't he marry a young fertile woman when he was young himself?? Now, that he's older, he should date a woman who is 40(same age as him), divorced, and has kids already.
Jersey Shortie Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Appreciate that you can admit it. Do what works for you just consider that you might want to work on that resentment because it may color any relationship you have with a man. I was very naive when I was younger about men. Now I am more realistic and honest. I don't think guys to discuss the ugly side of how they can be. Which doesn't help either because if they could admit and discuss these things, maybe hey could be nicer when they approach them with women. I can't say that I don't wish to be naive again, because I do, but i can't live my life with my head in the sand. All you have to do is read this message board regularly to see how men really feel about women or what they really value. Or hell, all you have to do is watch a porno and you see exactly what men wished for and wanted. They are extremely slighted. And I love how she appears to know more about me and how I feel than *I* do. Not worth a reply anymore. She has a very stern opinion of things and I'm not going to waste my breath. CaliGuy, I am sorry. I am not trying to say I know you better. I guess there are just things we clearly disagree on. I think a lot of your points are biased based on your own experiences. You assume that all men are the same, that they all have the same motivation and that they're all bad people. No, I don't assume all men are the same. And I don't think they are "bad people". I do often quesitons where alot of men's priorities are and what is really important to them based on the things they say and do. I mean, you guys rag on me for what I say but I also stand up for guys when I think they aren't being treated fairly. There was another poster that expect her new boyfriend to pay for an expensive trip and I told her that was not right. Another poster posted an article that made men sound like dolts and I also spoke up on that. So don't tell me I think men are bad people.
aerogurl87 Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Okay, so whose fault is that? Why didn't he marry a young fertile woman when he was young himself?? Now, that he's older, he should date a woman who is 40(same age as him), divorced, and has kids already. He shouldn't have to date a woman who is 40, just because he's 40. He's an adult, he can date whoever he wants to date. If he doesn't have kids and isn't divorced, why should he have to put up with someone else's baggage? Caliguy I say to continue dating whoever you want until you find Miss Right, whether she be 25 or 40.
Chicago_Guy Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Okay, so whose fault is that? Why didn't he marry a young fertile woman when he was young himself?? Now, that he's older, he should date a woman who is 40(same age as him), divorced, and has kids already. Are you serious or are you being sarcastic? Maybe women his age didn't want him when he was younger. Now he's supposed to be with them and overlook their emotional baggage and kids and show a blind eye to their poor life choices?
MissJoness Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Are you serious or are you being sarcastic? Maybe women his age didn't want him when he was younger. Now he's supposed to be with them and overlook their emotional baggage and kids and show a blind eye to their poor life choices? Who are you to say that these women made poor life choices because they have children (like many 40 and above adults do) and have been divorced. They were just living their life which Caliguy should have been doing. What was he doing for the past 20 years? Now all of a sudden at 40, he wants to look down on other 40 year old women for having children and being divorced. They were doing something he should have been doing 20 years ago; marriage and children
sally4sara Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Okay, so whose fault is that? Why didn't he marry a young fertile woman when he was young himself?? Now, that he's older, he should date a woman who is 40(same age as him), divorced, and has kids already. If he chose a 40s woman with kids who doesn't want more, he would not be choosing his counterpart if he wants to share the experience of having a child with someone. And when he was younger, perhaps he was not in the position he wanted to be in to have children. Some people are "late bloomers" in ways time won't wait for. A guy being interested in a younger woman isn't always about some lecherous draining of her youth to sustain him through his midlife crisis. There is chronological age and there is situational age; they don't always match up.
aerogurl87 Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 What was he doing for the past 20 years? Now all of a sudden at 40, he wants to look down on other 40 year old women for having children and being divorced. They were doing something he should have been doing 20 years ago; marriage and children Everyone doesn't want to get married at 20 or 30. Some people like to wait till they are stable in life and completely ready to take on such responsibilities as children and a marriage. So, I don't think he necessarily should've been getting hitched and having kids 20 years ago. He went about life at his own good pace, which I think is good. So instead of following society's model of the perfect life (marry in your 20s or 30s and have kids) he decided to wait and do all that stuff when HE was ready. He decided to not settle for anything but take his time in finding the right mate to spend the rest of his life with. If more people did that, maybe the divorce rate would be a little bit lower.
Chicago_Guy Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Who are you to say that these women made poor life choices because they have children (like many 40 and above adults do) and have been divorced. They were just living their life which Caliguy should have been doing. What was he doing for the past 20 years? Now all of a sudden at 40, he wants to look down on other 40 year old women for having children and being divorced. They were doing something he should have been doing 20 years ago; marriage and children The obvious counter-argument is that the 40-year-old divorced women should have waited to get married and then they could have had Caliguy. Why should a single 40-year-old man have to settle for a divorced woman and raise someone else's biological children?
prettybaby Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Doesn't matter to me. I've dated guys my age, I've had a crush on a guy who was 3 years younger, and the guy I'm with now (almost tempted to call him my other half at this point) is 14 years older (hell, almost 15). It's really not a factor. Why would I pass on a great relationship just because the numbers don't fit some stupid self-made criteria that nobody's even setting for me?
CaliGuy Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 To be fair, I don't think this is necessarily about age. CaliGuy has repeatedly said..... Well said, Thornton. You seem to get me. Okay, so whose fault is that? Why didn't he marry a young fertile woman when he was young himself?? Now, that he's older, he should date a woman who is 40(same age as him), divorced, and has kids already. Please. Do not tell me who I should or should not date. I am free to date whoever I want. There is no "you should date X or 0" here. I don't tell people who they *should or should not* date. There isn't a "FAULT" here. My life has unfolded the way it has. Things didn't work out with other women the way I thought they would and if you asked me at 20 if I thought I would be single and have no kids at 40 I would have said "You're smoking dope!". People's lives don't always pan out the way we dream they will. If you believe that to be the case, someone needs to bring you back to reality. Life just doesn't work that way. CaliGuy, I am sorry. I am not trying to say I know you better. I guess there are just things we clearly disagree on. Very true. No, I don't assume all men are the same. And I don't think they are "bad people". I do often quesitons where alot of men's priorities are and what is really important to them based on the things they say and do. I mean, you guys rag on me for what I say but I also stand up for guys when I think they aren't being treated fairly. There was another poster that expect her new boyfriend to pay for an expensive trip and I told her that was not right. Another poster posted an article that made men sound like dolts and I also spoke up on that. So don't tell me I think men are bad people. But you make an awful lot of assumptions about the motives of men and assume (for good or bad) that thei motivation behind each action is based on selfishness. Not all men who are in my position are selfish, want prizes/trophies or what not. Many times I have tried to explain that I am an UNUSUAL case. I look, feel, act much younger that I am with the maturity and wisdom that my age brings. Does that then mean that I should "settle" for someone who brings baggage (I don’t mean kids) to the relationship or is just simply not at my level?! And as Thorton said earlier, I am not opposed to someone my age but she has to be at the same point in her life. And I work hard to stay in shape and be attractive, I don't think it's an unreasonable request to find someone who shares the same qualities that I do. And if I can't find someone my age, then I will continue to search younger women until I do. He shouldn't have to date a woman who is 40, just because he's 40. He's an adult, he can date whoever he wants to date. If he doesn't have kids and isn't divorced, why should he have to put up with someone else's baggage? Caliguy I say to continue dating whoever you want until you find Miss Right, whether she be 25 or 40. Egg-sactly And like I said, if I found someone in my age range who had similar qualities I'd be all over it. So far, I haven't and it's not for lack of trying. Are you serious or are you being sarcastic? Maybe women his age didn't want him when he was younger. Now he's supposed to be with them and overlook their emotional baggage and kids and show a blind eye to their poor life choices? Well in all fairness, when I was in my 20s, I wasn't even considering marriage. I want to play in a band, I wanted to experience all the things in life and get that crap out of my system so that when I did, I'd be ready to be settled down and married. That didn't happen until I was 34. And when I was 35 I thought I met the perfect woman. As you can tell, that was 5 years ago and I've been on LS since not long after that relationship failed. It took me a long time to get over her and to get my head together. So here I sit, a PRIME candidate for the right woman -- all 40 years of me. The right woman isn't going to measure me from the outside. She's going to see who WHOLE me and say to herself "How did I get so lucky?!" Until then, I'm going to keep taking care of myself (outside and inside) and not really stress about meeting the right woman. I just don't want anyone posing their perceived limits on me. I don't live my life to please others.... Cheers
Jersey Shortie Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 If he chose a 40s woman with kids who doesn't want more, he would not be choosing his counterpart if he wants to share the experience of having a child with someone. And when he was younger, perhaps he was not in the position he wanted to be in to have children. Some people are "late bloomers" in ways time won't wait for. A guy being interested in a younger woman isn't always about some lecherous draining of her youth to sustain him through his midlife crisis. There is chronological age and there is situational age; they don't always match up. Would you say the same exact comments when applied to a 40 year old woman? I think most of us would have the expectation by that point in her life she should have had some things figured out. No one would say "oh she is just a late bloomer". We would be hearing lots of commits dissing her, especially from other men. I am not saying that people aren't late bloomers in life. Infact, I think that's fine and have always been a late bloomer myself. But while women give credence for men to be "late bloomers" it is clear that alot of men don't extend that same kindness. So I guess I feel like the only way to fight against the hypocrisy is to hold men to the same standard they hold women. CaliGuy: But you make an awful lot of assumptions about the motives of men and assume (for good or bad) that thei motivation behind each action is based on selfishness. Not all men who are in my position are selfish, want prizes/trophies or what not. When a guy comes on here and brags about dating someone that is 23. Or other guys chime in to another guy dating someone young with, "you go man, you got a good set up there. That's who you deserve to be dating.." , or when a video is posted of a 30-40 year old women having the nerve to dance in a leotard and all the guys rag on her because she isn't 20, or the million of other comments made here that clearly show that men think their worth as a man is better then the worth of women. Yet men still want us to love them and think they are great while they only want to tell women they think they are great between the ages of 18-30. The irony also is that women come on here and say things like "oh yeah my man is older but it's not about age." They prop their man up. And it isn't age for her but does she think for a second he isn't considering her age? Of course he is. Would he be dating her if she was 10 or 15 years older or would he be dating someone else 10 or 15 years younger. Many times I have tried to explain that I am an UNUSUAL case. I look, feel, act much younger that I am with the maturity and wisdom that my age brings. Does that then mean that I should "settle" for someone who brings baggage (I don’t mean kids) to the relationship or is just simply not at my level?! Because you don't have kids, you don't want someone that does have kids. Because you feel like you don't have baggage, you don't want someone that does have baggage. So if a girl is 25, why should she date someone that isn't 25 ? I don't think it's an unreasonable request to find someone who shares the same qualities that I do. And if I can't find someone my age, then I will continue to search younger women until I do. Its not unreasonable. But age is a quality. Some people want other people that share their age. Some people don't want to be with someone that wasted their time partying it up when they were younger and now are looking to settle down with someone younger then them. And really, I don't have anything against older guys. I have dated them and been attracted to them. However, I can't lie and say it doesn't suck at the same time how men view women for aging and how they view themselves. How often women get belitted and put down by men while men still woman to see them as important sexual creatures. And I do think men think they have more worth and value themselves more for aging and like making women devalued for the same. And what sucks is that no matter your age, you age anyway! So where does that leave women? We just don't even get a chance. It's amazing any guy ever gets married knowing that the old ball and chain is going to get older. I guess they always have porn they can look at of 18 year olds. After all, that is utlimatel what is very important to alot of guys.
sumdude Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 I was very naive when I was younger about men. Now I am more realistic and honest. I don't think guys to discuss the ugly side of how they can be. Which doesn't help either because if they could admit and discuss these things, maybe hey could be nicer when they approach them with women. I get it.. believe me. I was naive even through my 30's and my marriage. I was burned pretty bad and she had my head spinning. Suffice to say any woman I get seriously involved with will have to jump through a couple extra hoops to earn my trust. It's a challenge not to be more than a bit jaded. I can't say that I don't wish to be naive again, because I do, but i can't live my life with my head in the sand. All you have to do is read this message board regularly to see how men really feel about women or what they really value. Or hell, all you have to do is watch a porno and you see exactly what men wished for and wanted. LOL ignorance is bliss but that's water under the bridge. It's way OT but as far as porn it's not always as it appears to be.
CaliGuy Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Would you say the same exact comments when applied to a 40 year old woman? I think most of us would have the expectation by that point in her life she should have had some things figured out. No one would say "oh she is just a late bloomer". We would be hearing lots of commits dissing her, especially from other men. I am not saying that people aren't late bloomers in life. Infact, I think that's fine and have always been a late bloomer myself. But while women give credence for men to be "late bloomers" it is clear that alot of men don't extend that same kindness. So I guess I feel like the only way to fight against the hypocrisy is to hold men to the same standard they hold women. And I am quite sure that you can find posts of me talking about older women and younger men. If they can get them, I say GO FOR IT. It's not me to judge who other people date. Black/White/Green/Yellow/20/40/60 -- whatever. Love is not defined or contained in the boxes we live in. When a guy comes on here and brags about dating someone that is 23. Or other guys chime in to another guy dating someone young with, "you go man, you got a good set up there. That's who you deserve to be dating.." , or when a video is posted of a 30-40 year old women having the nerve to dance in a leotard and all the guys rag on her because she isn't 20, or the million of other comments made here that clearly show that men think their worth as a man is better then the worth of women. Yet men still want us to love them and think they are great while they only want to tell women they think they are great between the ages of 18-30. The irony also is that women come on here and say things like "oh yeah my man is older but it's not about age." They prop their man up. And it isn't age for her but does she think for a second he isn't considering her age? Of course he is. Would he be dating her if she was 10 or 15 years older or would he be dating someone else 10 or 15 years younger. I thought the chick in the leotard looked very good, FWIW. You must understand too that men, historically, are able to have kids at just about any age. Women on the other hand tend to be on a clock. Therefore, a man with no kids who wants them is more apt to selecting a younger wife. This is biologically related, but much more difficult to have both of them on the same plane emotionally and on a maturity level. Because you don't have kids, you don't want someone that does have kids. Because you feel like you don't have baggage, you don't want someone that does have baggage. So if a girl is 25, why should she date someone that isn't 25 ? She doesn't have to and I never said she did. If anyone feels like they are settling for me, I will be the first to walk away from the relationship. The last thing I want is to be with someone who doesn't feel that I am a prize. And there is no woman, 10-15 years my junior, that has ever been FORCED to date me Its not unreasonable. But age is a quality. Some people want other people that share their age. Some people don't want to be with someone that wasted their time partying it up when they were younger and now are looking to settle down with someone younger then them. Yup. And really, I don't have anything against older guys. I have dated them and been attracted to them. However, I can't lie and say it doesn't suck at the same time how men view women for aging and how they view themselves. How often women get belitted and put down by men while men still woman to see them as important sexual creatures. And I do think men think they have more worth and value themselves more for aging and like making women devalued for the same. And what sucks is that no matter your age, you age anyway! So where does that leave women? We just don't even get a chance. It's amazing any guy ever gets married knowing that the old ball and chain is going to get older. I guess they always have porn they can look at of 18 year olds. After all, that is utlimatel what is very important to alot of guys. So what you are saying is there is a "perceived" double standard that you don't like. I think I understand the crux of your issue. And I think I plainly pointed it out that there are "Cougars" and "Pumas" running rampant these days. It works both ways, JS. All it takes for a woman over 35 to attract a younger man is to stay in shape. The same thing for older men. If you get lazy and out of shape, don't expect to have a large dating pool. There is no double standard. I even pointed that out with Demi Moore (as just one example). Hell, we have 28 year old female teachers teaching 15 year old boys the ropes. I'm not OK with that, but I am using it as an example that it's not just strictly something that men do.
Jaytb Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Would you say the same exact comments when applied to a 40 year old woman? I think most of us would have the expectation by that point in her life she should have had some things figured out. No one would say "oh she is just a late bloomer". We would be hearing lots of commits dissing her, especially from other men. I am not saying that people aren't late bloomers in life. Infact, I think that's fine and have always been a late bloomer myself. But while women give credence for men to be "late bloomers" it is clear that alot of men don't extend that same kindness. So I guess I feel like the only way to fight against the hypocrisy is to hold men to the same standard they hold women. When a guy comes on here and brags about dating someone that is 23. Or other guys chime in to another guy dating someone young with, "you go man, you got a good set up there. That's who you deserve to be dating.." , or when a video is posted of a 30-40 year old women having the nerve to dance in a leotard posted by a female poster, may I add. and all the guys rag on her because she isn't 20, or the million of other comments made here that clearly show that men think their worth as a man is better then the worth of women. Yet men still want us to love them and think they are great while they only want to tell women they think they are great between the ages of 18-30. The irony also is that women come on here and say things like "oh yeah my man is older but it's not about age." They prop their man up. And it isn't age for her but does she think for a second he isn't considering her age? Of course he is. Would he be dating her if she was 10 or 15 years older or would he be dating someone else 10 or 15 years younger. Just a question, wouldn't that make her a completely different person? Because you don't have kids, you don't want someone that does have kids. Because you feel like you don't have baggage, you don't want someone that does have baggage. So if a girl is 25, why should she date someone that isn't 25 ? Its not unreasonable. But age is a quality. Some people want other people that share their age. Some people don't want to be with someone that wasted their time partying it up when they were younger and now are looking to settle down with someone younger then them. And really, I don't have anything against older guys. I have dated them and been attracted to them. However, I can't lie and say it doesn't suck at the same time how men view women for aging and how they view themselves. How often women get belitted and put down by men while men still woman to see them as important sexual creatures. And I do think men think they have more worth and value themselves more for aging and like making women devalued for the same. And what sucks is that no matter your age, you age anyway! So where does that leave women? We just don't even get a chance. It's amazing any guy ever gets married knowing that the old ball and chain is going to get older. I guess they always have porn they can look at of 18 year olds. After all, that is utlimatel what is very important to alot of guys. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word
sally4sara Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 Would you say the same exact comments when applied to a 40 year old woman? I think most of us would have the expectation by that point in her life she should have had some things figured out. No one would say "oh she is just a late bloomer". We would be hearing lots of commits dissing her, especially from other men. I am not saying that people aren't late bloomers in life. Infact, I think that's fine and have always been a late bloomer myself. But while women give credence for men to be "late bloomers" it is clear that alot of men don't extend that same kindness. So I guess I feel like the only way to fight against the hypocrisy is to hold men to the same standard they hold women. Yes I would say the same thing. The only thing one might question about someone waiting till they're 40 to start a family is the health of the woman's eggs or the health of the man's sperm. And THAT is their concern; not mine. A productive way to fight the hypocrisy you think men have on this subject is to just not enter into a relationship with a man who buys into that hypocritical standard. Beyond that, what's to fight?
SoulSearch_CO Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 That's because we have $$ and we're, usually, settled down, mature and not drinking all night or doing drugs. Plus - we're better lovers Hahaha...and in ONE fell swoop, Cali pegs EXACTLY what the appeal is.
c-riouz Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 You must understand too that men, historically, are able to have kids at just about any age. Women on the other hand tend to be on a clock. Therefore, a man with no kids who wants them is more apt to selecting a younger wife. This is biologically related, but much more difficult to have both of them on the same plane emotionally and on a maturity level. That is the stupidest point I've ever read. Women are also able to have kids from their first period on, so probably around the age of 11 or even 10 nowadays. Does that mean women should have kids that young now when they're still children themselves? My point is: just because nature or biology makes it "possible" to do something doesn't mean one should do it, or that it's the right and healthy thing to do. Which means that on the other extreme end of the spectrum men shouldn't pat themselves on the back just because it is possible for them to become a father at the age of 60. Not too mention that it's been proven in several studies that it's not only women who age and thus pose their potential babies at a greater risk for birth defects etc. the older the women conceive them, but men as well with less quality sperm and more broken DNA strings. With women it's just more "obvious" as in, nature puts a physical end to it, but that doesn't mean men should continue to become Dads until they're 90. The Dad should be able to take care of the child in its first years, after all, and not the other way around. Plus, is it women's fault that men are not as mature and emotionally stabel as early as women are? I think that's merely a copout anyway. So men in their teens and twens are mostly hormone-driven, thus having the strongest urge to screw anything that moves, but at the same time they're not mature enough yet to carry the consequences of that behavior (which means a baby as nature originally had intended)? Please. Nature is dumb sometimes, but not THAT dumb. Men just like to use that excuse in order to have a free pass to party away their teens and twens, yet condemn women when they do the same and want to settle down at a later age. Hypocrisy, anyone? And CaliGuy, I agree with JS that there is something very offputting about your constant bragging about your "ability" to date younger girls. Just because you "missed" the chance to settle down earlier or partied your youth away, younger women should have to "pay the price" for it now? I'm the same age as some of your dates, and I would never even dream of dating a 40year old man - for one, I would think he has the maturity of a frat boy if he can't date within his own age group, and secondly I would suspect him of trading in the now young chick for a younger one once again later in life when she's "old", since he's already shown that he obviously digs the young ones and finds the "older ones" below his standards. Biology prevents me to be attracted to young guys that could be my sons or my younger brothers, and it also prevents me to be attracted to older guys that could be my father, age-wise, and thankfully so. Everything else would be just sick and twisted, so yes, I see men who are attracted to girls WAY younger than themselves as perverts.
Trialbyfire Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 Come on Caliguy, now you're justifying with that better breeder rationalization. Just admit you find younger women more attractive, due to personal preferences, and it's all good. DNA fragments within sperm, as a man ages. With this in mind, even if there's inception, the percentage of birth defects and genetic diseases increases, within the child. Also, as men age, they lose the strength of propulsion, that a younger man has, in order to give their sperm the jump start necessary to get to their end goal, which is the egg that's lodged further up, within a woman's body. Sperm also lose their vigorous action, as men age, necessary to break through the wall of the egg, in order to fertilize the egg. Somewhere between 50 to 60% of the time, where infertility strikes a couple, the reason for infertility, is within the man.
SoulSearch_CO Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 And I think I plainly pointed it out that there are "Cougars" and "Pumas" running rampant these days. It works both ways, JS. All it takes for a woman over 35 to attract a younger man is to stay in shape. The same thing for older men. If you get lazy and out of shape, don't expect to have a large dating pool. There is no double standard. I even pointed that out with Demi Moore (as just one example). Hell, we have 28 year old female teachers teaching 15 year old boys the ropes. I'm not OK with that, but I am using it as an example that it's not just strictly something that men do. I concur with this. One of my fitness instructors is 37 and dating a 21-y/o. She's smoking hot - looks like she's in her 20's. When she told me her age, my jaw dropped. She did state a couple of the drawbacks to that age diff, though - he's a partier and he's always broke. But they're enjoying each other - who cares?
Jersey Shortie Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 Lets not forget that 11 year old boys are also able to inpregnate someone. And techniqually, by some standards here, they are the biological best option apparently. I obviously don't agree and am a little grossed out to even say it it's true as well as itls true that 11 year old girls or even younger get their periods. Heck, alot of 9 year olds girls get their periods now-a-days. And while a 16 year old girl has a more womanly body then that of a 11 year old, she is still not a fully grown women. I think some men don't like full grown women. Somewhere between 50 to 60% of the time, where infertility strikes a couple, the reason for infertility, is within the man. I did not know this.
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