adam g Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 ...And I don't meet a lot of people. I have never had a serious girlfriend. I used to be social but was still never taken seriously by hardly anyone, male or female. I got into pot to hide from all that and had a few good years of hiding from everything but stopped months ago. Now am a 24 year old with the social skills and dating skills of an awkward 12 year old. When I am in public I sometimes get little panic attacks or feel like I am walking in a daydream. I recently lost my job and can be professional and social when interviewing or trying to make ends meet but I absolutely abhor social situations, even with my family a lot of times. I made friends in school but most of them were drinking buddies or musician friends. I do go out to hang out with people I already know but I honestly only leave my house (besides for work related reasons) to jam with my band or get drunk. If I stopped drinking socially, I would have absolutely no social life. I absolutely fear rejection and don't think I am worth any woman or any employer's time. I have gone through all that self help and counseling stuff but am not able to apply any of it. I want to meet new people but I don't know where to or why I would be worth anybody's time. I am not looking for a girlfriend right now or any of that, but just to be taken seriously. I wasn't by my last employer and I haven't by any girl I have ever interacted with.
OpenGL Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 Jeez and I thought my life was bad. You have a higher pain threshold than me, I would of pulled a Sodini by now if I were you.
Bejita463 Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 I have gone through all that self help and counseling stuff but am not able to apply any of it. You have work still left to do then, yes? I want to meet new people but I don't know where to or why I would be worth anybody's time. I am not looking for a girlfriend right now or any of that, but just to be taken seriously. I wasn't by my last employer and I haven't by any girl I have ever interacted with.You don't have enough confidence to take yourself seriously. Why would you expect anyone else to? Until you have a positive opinion of yourself, it is a fair chance that no one else will either. Your own confidence is what you need to work on. The rest will then fall into place easier than you'd believe.
SoulSearch_CO Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 Adam - what are your interests? What do you like to do for fun besides drink? You mentioned the band - do you guys do shows? Have you considered stopping drinking? Alcohol is a depressant, you know. Find other things to do. There's plenty out there in the world. Find other things you're good at and it can help build your confidence. Another poster mentioned once using Toastmasters to build confidence in social situations. Jeez and I thought my life was bad. You have a higher pain threshold than me, I would of pulled a Sodini by now if I were you. I was REALLY trying to avoid the Sodini reference. I'm glad I wasn't the one to break it open.
C-i-C-u Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 Jeez and I thought my life was bad. You have a higher pain threshold than me, I would of pulled a Sodini by now if I were you. Was that a serious comment? What is so painful about what he is going through? Everyone experiences those sort of phases.
OpenGL Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 Was that a serious comment? What is so painful about what he is going through? Everyone experiences those sort of phases. Yes it was a serious comment. And what do you mean what's so painful about what hes going through? It sounds like his life sucks and has no male/female friends and no one takes me seriously. Sounds a lot like Sodini, right? I think pretty soon people are going to find out Sodini isn't such an isolated case as the media tried to protray him as. Men are very lonely these days and have easier access to guns than ever.
espec10001 Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 Welcome to the club mate! There are a lot of angry men out there who feel that life has cheated them. And I am one of them! This society we live in is hostile towards the average male. It is hostile towards Nature. People will say "well it is your fault, you did it and you gotta change yourself blah blah blah." The problem is certain MEN got greedy, certain MEN f***ed up life for a lot of other men, and MEN HAVE A RIGHT TO BE MAD! But you can't take your anger out on the wrong people. Your struggle is a common one among men, and you need to figure out first who is responsible. It is not YOUR fault, it is our government, a small group of men who cause mischief and chaos in the world. They WANT you to be depressed, they WANT you to be afraid, they WANT you to have rage towards those who are not at fault, i.e. your fellow citizens. They WANT fighting among their subjects. You're anger (not sadness) should be directed towards those greedy men who lust for power over you. Whenever the balance between rich/poor, master/servant, strong/weak become far too imbalanced, it is your DUTY AS A MAN to get MAD! Get mad you f***ing pussy!
Bejita463 Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 Welcome to the club mate! There are a lot of angry men out there who feel that life has cheated them. And I am one of them! This society we live in is hostile towards the average male. It is hostile towards Nature. People will say "well it is your fault, you did it and you gotta change yourself blah blah blah." The problem is certain MEN got greedy, certain MEN f***ed up life for a lot of other men, and MEN HAVE A RIGHT TO BE MAD! But you can't take your anger out on the wrong people. Your struggle is a common one among men, and you need to figure out first who is responsible. It is not YOUR fault, it is our government, a small group of men who cause mischief and chaos in the world. They WANT you to be depressed, they WANT you to be afraid, they WANT you to have rage towards those who are not at fault, i.e. your fellow citizens. They WANT fighting among their subjects. You're anger (not sadness) should be directed towards those greedy men who lust for power over you. Whenever the balance between rich/poor, master/servant, strong/weak become far too imbalanced, it is your DUTY AS A MAN to get MAD! Get mad you f***ing pussy! Is this satire?
espec10001 Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 Is this satire? No its not. I'm in the same situation as him, and I also know a lot of angry, lost men as well. And I believe that my livelihood and freedom have been stolen from me. And if men don't start getting mad it's gonna get worse. I got revolution on my mind.
Bejita463 Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 I find it is totally reasonable to desire to overthrow one's government during a romantic dry spell. After all, the leaders of said country are clearly at fault.
espec10001 Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 I find it is totally reasonable to desire to overthrow one's government during a romantic dry spell. After all, the leaders of said country are clearly at fault. It's the victim mentality. Like when the victim of a crime is lead to believe it is their fault, and not the perpetrator. Just how much can you 'work' on yourself when you realize that men can't find work, therefore they don't have money and can't date. Men can't socialize with females because of all this technology crap pushed on us. I realize that they are succeeding in their plan to divide us because it is obviously working. Instead of uniting against a common enemy, we quarrel amongst ourselves.
Bejita463 Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 It's the victim mentality. Like when the victim of a crime is lead to believe it is their fault, and not the perpetrator. Just how much can you 'work' on yourself when you realize that men can't find work, therefore they don't have money and can't date. Men can't socialize with females because of all this technology crap pushed on us. I realize that they are succeeding in their plan to divide us because it is obviously working. Instead of uniting against a common enemy, we quarrel amongst ourselves. Except none of that really has anything to do with what the OP was asking about. Try to stay focused there buddy.
espec10001 Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 Except none of that really has anything to do with what the OP was asking about. Try to stay focused there buddy. No it does have to do with the OP. Instead of standing up for his right to be a man he's crying about his misfortune. If you are not a man, then you won't understand. SAD Men who cry about their situation won't do anything about it, but MAD men, now thats another story! I don't know about you, but I'm getting tired of being subservient to a government that wants total control over it's people and they do NOTHING about it. Freedom isn't free. And you'll ask what am I doing about it? I've done something, written something, and I'm waiting for the opportune time to release it.
Bejita463 Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 He's not asking about revolution. Make a new thread in OT if you want to discuss that. This is not the proper place for it.
espec10001 Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 He's not asking about revolution. Make a new thread in OT if you want to discuss that. This is not the proper place for it. Yeah well he's asking for advice so I gave him some OF MY OWN. Sorry it isn't the same "go to counseling seek therapy work on yourself" s***. He can take it or leave it. I have freedom of speech and can say what I want. Is it getting to the point that everyone has to spout off the same advice for everyone? Why doesn't he go ask a brick wall for some advice because that's about the same quality advice he's getting from you.
samspade Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 Welcome to the club mate! There are a lot of angry men out there who feel that life has cheated them. And I am one of them! This society we live in is hostile towards the average male. It is hostile towards Nature. People will say "well it is your fault, you did it and you gotta change yourself blah blah blah." The problem is certain MEN got greedy, certain MEN f***ed up life for a lot of other men, and MEN HAVE A RIGHT TO BE MAD! But you can't take your anger out on the wrong people. Your struggle is a common one among men, and you need to figure out first who is responsible. It is not YOUR fault, it is our government, a small group of men who cause mischief and chaos in the world. They WANT you to be depressed, they WANT you to be afraid, they WANT you to have rage towards those who are not at fault, i.e. your fellow citizens. They WANT fighting among their subjects. You're anger (not sadness) should be directed towards those greedy men who lust for power over you. Whenever the balance between rich/poor, master/servant, strong/weak become far too imbalanced, it is your DUTY AS A MAN to get MAD! Get mad you f***ing pussy! I'm glad frustrated betas like you exist - it makes it easier for us men who are willing to take ownership of our lives and not blame some corporate or female boogeyman (forgive the contradiction) for our unsolved problems. Good luck with that attitude. OP, you can take charge of your life and date the women you want, if you're willing to put in the effort. Angry, frustrated chumps like espec10001 will be more than happy to try to drag you back down to their unsatisfied level. Misery loves company. Just remember that the person with the most control over your life is YOU. If society really is "hostile toward the average male," then don't be an average male.
espec10001 Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 I'm glad frustrated betas like you exist - it makes it easier for us men who are willing to take ownership of our lives and not blame some corporate or female boogeyman (forgive the contradiction) for our unsolved problems. Good luck with that attitude. OP, you can take charge of your life and date the women you want, if you're willing to put in the effort. Angry, frustrated chumps like espec10001 will be more than happy to try to drag you back down to their unsatisfied level. Misery loves company. Just remember that the person with the most control over your life is YOU. If society really is "hostile toward the average male," then don't be an average male. Wow, another machine! You think you are free and in control of your life. :laugh: When you wake up one day and everything you thought you 'owned' is taken away from you, and your children are born slaves, you'll be glad there are still men in this world like me who will stand for human rights, Mr. "Alpha" male. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Bejita463 Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 Yeah well he's asking for advice so I gave him some OF MY OWN. Sorry it isn't the same "go to counseling seek therapy work on yourself" s***. He can take it or leave it. I have freedom of speech and can say what I want. Is it getting to the point that everyone has to spout off the same advice for everyone? Why doesn't he go ask a brick wall for some advice because that's about the same quality advice he's getting from you. Varied advice is fine, but yours does not make any sense taken into context with what was asked. Requesting advice from a brick wall would have serious drawbacks, but I am relatively confident that if I asked it how I could become a better cook, it would not suggest overthrowing my government. Then again, maybe it would. I've never given one the opportunity.
mike88 Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 Welcome to the club mate! There are a lot of angry men out there who feel that life has cheated them. And I am one of them! This society we live in is hostile towards the average male. It is hostile towards Nature. People will say "well it is your fault, you did it and you gotta change yourself blah blah blah." The problem is certain MEN got greedy, certain MEN f***ed up life for a lot of other men, and MEN HAVE A RIGHT TO BE MAD! But you can't take your anger out on the wrong people. Your struggle is a common one among men, and you need to figure out first who is responsible. It is not YOUR fault, it is our government, a small group of men who cause mischief and chaos in the world. They WANT you to be depressed, they WANT you to be afraid, they WANT you to have rage towards those who are not at fault, i.e. your fellow citizens. They WANT fighting among their subjects. You're anger (not sadness) should be directed towards those greedy men who lust for power over you. Whenever the balance between rich/poor, master/servant, strong/weak become far too imbalanced, it is your DUTY AS A MAN to get MAD! Get mad you f***ing pussy! And the first rule of Fight Club is...
Unsuccessful Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Some women also have ongoing problems with no one being interested in them. I am 41 years old and the only guys who were ever "interested" in dating me just wanted money. Once I stopped paying their bills, they vanished. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t195975/ I have a professional career and interact with many highly successful executives. Most people are shocked when they find out that I have no romantic life. After awhile, I just learned to blend in with the crowd. Maybe you should look around amongst your friends and contacts. Maybe there is a girl who would love to date you but she is not obvious.
OpenGL Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Some women also have ongoing problems with no one being interested in them. I am 41 years old and the only guys who were ever "interested" in dating me just wanted money. Once I stopped paying their bills, they vanished. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t195975/ I have a professional career and interact with many highly successful executives. Most people are shocked when they find out that I have no romantic life. After awhile, I just learned to blend in with the crowd. Maybe you should look around amongst your friends and contacts. Maybe there is a girl who would love to date you but she is not obvious. Shes probably a fattie.
Lish Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Are you really ripped like you said in your other thread?
OpenGL Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Are you really ripped like you said in your other thread? You refering to me? If so, yes.
Lish Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 You refering to me? If so, yes. Mmmmm hahah. call me....but i'm not fat, so...
OpenGL Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Mmmmm hahah. call me....but i'm not fat, so... The fact that I'm in CA and you're in Ireland leads me to believe this wouldn't work out. Besides, I'm pretty sure theres a lot of ripped guys in Ireland. If thats your pic in your avatar you'll have no trouble.
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