Lish Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Oh sure, rally around Scottish pretty boy Are you pretty, too?
Author OpenGL Posted September 3, 2009 Author Posted September 3, 2009 Um. You do understand that about 30 lbs overweight IS obese, right? 30lbs is probably on the edge or just hitting the obese range depending on the build of the girl. Yes I understand. This this what I am resorting to.
Phateless Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 I have some friends that have given me brutal honesty, so have relatives. They can't really come up with anything that is stopping me from being successful. They really can't and trust me they have tried. I've had my (married) friend come out to the bars and clubs with me a quite a few times in order to see what was wrong with my pickup. He saw me encounter the stuck up bitches, the flakes, the dykes, the attention whores, etc etc. Lots of times at the end of the night he just says something along the lines of "yeah man, you're right, I'm sorry you have to deal with this shiit and I'm glad I'm married" It's probably something a lot more subtle than that. You're probably too goal-oriented and direct, which is a very common problem among men, especially intelligent ones. I'm going to get flamed for this, but oh well. You may want to look into Game. Not so you can "bang a bunch of chicks," but because it will enhance your understanding of social situations and help you learn to better relate to people. That's what it did for me. Game is all about social dynamics, psychology, sociology, and self-esteem. Go out and buy The Game by Neil Straus. It's a crazy story, but a lot of men relate to it. There is also The Venusian Arts Handbook by Mystery, which is more of a textbook for Game. Personally, I ignored all the canned lines, routines, and cliches, and instead focused on strengthening my understanding of social situations. The end result for me is that I am better able to get along with just about everybody and when I meet a woman I want to get to know, I don't feel helpless. Flame on.
SoulSearch_CO Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 30lbs is probably on the edge or just hitting the obese range depending on the build of the girl. Yes I understand. This this what I am resorting to. I am curious, OpenGL... why do you think that heavy women will be more interested in you than "average" ones? Just because they are heavy, so they have nothing to lose? Like they should feel blessed by your attention? I'm just curious what you think the difference is. Like mentally they are just so freaking happy that somebody paid them attention that they'll take you when no "average" girl will? Because I've BEEN heavy, my dear. I've been over your "top" number. I'm still the same person inside that I was then. And there were people I wouldn't have been in relationship with purely because of their attitude...nevermind how hot their body was - it didn't matter.
SpanksTheMonkey Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 I am curious, OpenGL... why do you think that heavy women will be more interested in you than "average" ones? Just because they are heavy, so they have nothing to lose? Like they should feel blessed by your attention? I'm just curious what you think the difference is. Like mentally they are just so freaking happy that somebody paid them attention that they'll take you when no "average" girl will? Because I've BEEN heavy, my dear. I've been over your "top" number. I'm still the same person inside that I was then. And there were people I wouldn't have been in relationship with purely because of their attitude...nevermind how hot their body was - it didn't matter. You hit the mark with this one my little friend I wouldn't care if a guy had the body of a Greek god! If he was a jerk I simply wouldn't settle for it at this point in my life I'm worth more then dealing with that crap and they cant hide it for ever ether. Guess what guys not all overweight women have low self esteem and are willing to jump for joy at any guy who asks them out lmao.
HappyAgain Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 This thread really makes me sad to realize how many men are such real losers. As SoulSearch_CO stated, not every overweight woman has low self-esteem and would be thankful that ANY man would be willing to pay her attention. But it also makes me wonder how many men care about anything more than sex in a relationship. Does no one care if the woman/man has a great personality, enjoys the same hobbies, is someone you can talk to day or night, is someone you can trust and knows they are loyal to you, someone that can make you laugh and enjoy yourself?? All those qualities are irrelevant if the woman is 20lbs overweight?? So, if you don't THINK you can have great sex, there is no relationship! And I say THINK because you've never slept with someone "overweight" and there are overweight women who are even wilder in bed than slim women. I only hope when you guys start getting a pot belly, start going bald, you're rear starts feeling like marshamllow, etc, that all your current women are just as shallow and will leave you since YOU aren't desirable anymore. I was overweight for a while but I'm not anymore (I look better now than I did when I was 20) and I wouldn't go near a guy like you no matter what you look like. In fact, I was married to someone who was fit and slim his whole life and guess what, his looks did nothing for his personailty and character, or his performance in bed. And guess what, I left him, while I was overweight, and I am happy as hell that I did. Yeah sex is important but what's a hell of a lot more important is finding someone whose company you enjoy outside of the bedroom, someone who can handle pressure when life throws a curveball, someone who you can trust, someone who is truthful, someone you don't mind spending time with. Having been on both sides of the weight fence, I can honestly ask you: what do you have to offer ANY woman, fat or slim, except shallowness?
stillafool Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Most of the replies in this thread are dumb so I won't bother addressing them. However. Quite a few people are assuming that I was trying to hold out for a hottie. Maybe I should of make it clear that what I meant is I'm thinking about settling for a fattie instead of a average girl, not a hottie. Not sure why a lot of people assumed that I went from hottie to fattie instead of average to fattie. Again, don't settle. Chances are the girls you call "fatties" will know you are full of sh-t immediately. So go after the average girl with high self-esteem. Don't waste your time or anyone elses.
Chubbi Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 I'm not sure why some men don't get this but women look at how you treat other women when they decide if they want to date you. If you walk around calling other women fat and/or ugly, she's going to wonder what you'd say about her when she turns her back. Huge turn off.
alphamale Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 I'm not sure why some men don't get this but women look at how you treat other women when they decide if they want to date you. If you walk around calling other women fat and/or ugly, she's going to wonder what you'd say about her when she turns her back. Huge turn off. unfortunately Chubbi a lot of women both skinny and fat like to be treated badly...
Author OpenGL Posted September 3, 2009 Author Posted September 3, 2009 It's probably something a lot more subtle than that. You're probably too goal-oriented and direct, which is a very common problem among men, especially intelligent ones. Yes I admit sometimes I go to the bar very goal oriented. I psych myself up before hand thinking I'm going to fck one of these girls tonight for sure just so I have the balls to start approaching a lot of women with confidence. But sometimes I go with a group of people and just chill for the night and if something happens, it happens. So I definitely say I've done a lot of both. I'm going to get flamed for this, but oh well. You may want to look into Game. Not so you can "bang a bunch of chicks," but because it will enhance your understanding of social situations and help you learn to better relate to people. That's what it did for me. Game is all about social dynamics, psychology, sociology, and self-esteem. Go out and buy The Game by Neil Straus. It's a crazy story, but a lot of men relate to it. There is also The Venusian Arts Handbook by Mystery, which is more of a textbook for Game. I know pretty much everything there is to know about the game, it's just either I'm not applying it right or it just doesn't work for me. Maybe I'm too ugly or me being a minority has something to do with it. Who knows. Personally, I ignored all the canned lines, routines, and cliches, and instead focused on strengthening my understanding of social situations. Yeah, canned lines are stupid, I never use them. They probably only work for people who don't need to use them anyway.
Author OpenGL Posted September 3, 2009 Author Posted September 3, 2009 I am curious, OpenGL... why do you think that heavy women will be more interested in you than "average" ones? Just because they are heavy, so they have nothing to lose? Like they should feel blessed by your attention? I'm just curious what you think the difference is. Like mentally they are just so freaking happy that somebody paid them attention that they'll take you when no "average" girl will? Because I've BEEN heavy, my dear. I've been over your "top" number. I'm still the same person inside that I was then. And there were people I wouldn't have been in relationship with purely because of their attitude...nevermind how hot their body was - it didn't matter. The fatties get a lot less attention so I would assume there standards are no where near as high as average girls. I don't think the fatties should be blessed by my attention and they have every right to tell me to go to hell since based off the way I look I obviously have ulterior motives to dating them. Seriously, if you saw me walking down the street holding hands with a fattie, you would be wondering what the hell I'm doing. I could be totally wrong though and the fatties could reject me too. Who knows I never tried. If that happens then I'd have to go with option 2.
Author OpenGL Posted September 3, 2009 Author Posted September 3, 2009 Again, don't settle. Chances are the girls you call "fatties" will know you are full of sh-t immediately. So go after the average girl with high self-esteem. Don't waste your time or anyone elses. I've been trying man, but its not working.
Phateless Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Yes I admit sometimes I go to the bar very goal oriented. I psych myself up before hand thinking I'm going to fck one of these girls tonight for sure just so I have the balls to start approaching a lot of women with confidence. But sometimes I go with a group of people and just chill for the night and if something happens, it happens. So I definitely say I've done a lot of both. I know pretty much everything there is to know about the game, it's just either I'm not applying it right or it just doesn't work for me. Maybe I'm too ugly or me being a minority has something to do with it. Who knows. Yeah, canned lines are stupid, I never use them. They probably only work for people who don't need to use them anyway. Interesting... Did you learn anything helpful from it?
WineCountry Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 smart girls who are married to rich/powerful men always stay skinny Then perhaps there should be more rich and powerful men for us women to get with. Instead of...well...you. :laugh:
samspade Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Any other guys, who for the most part have no game but are otherwise normal (average looks, good career, nice apartment, not in debt, etc), end up with just settling for a fattie? I'm at the point of considering it but I don't know if I can go through with it since I find fatties so unattractive. I've tried learning game but it hasn't been working for me, so I don't really know of another way out. I don't want to turn into the next George Sodini, so settling for a fattie is increasing looking like something I should do. What do you guys think? Do any of you guys have any experience on what settling for a fattie is like? I'm assuming this post is tongue-in-cheek? Any woman is out of your league only because you believe it to be so. If you consider a rubenesque woman "settling" on your part, how do you think it will make you happy? You have a lot of work to do on yourself - or an unhappy life lies ahead.
samspade Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 unfortunately Chubbi a lot of women both skinny and fat like to be treated badly... Quoted for truth. Anyone who doesn't believe it can read these. Most women have no compunction about calling OTHER women "fat" or "ugly" either - especially when they're competing for a man. Funny how that works.
vanilla87 Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 You have got to be kidding me? didn't you bother to notice that study was done on all older people seniors in their 70s? At that age yes our brains do begun to deteriorate thats inevitable. Sorry thats nothing but more propaganda put out there to help the weight loss machine make more money simple..! No you read it wrong then. It said it aged obese peoples brains to look like they have the thinking capacity of a 70 year old because their brains are smaller then skinny people. And small brains by the time your 60 or 70 can start developing dementa. So they realized that these people who are obese can in fact get dementa because of their small brains. Its all about how they don't get enough oxygen and blood flow to the brain, which constricts it from being normal sized for someone in their teens, 20's, and 30's. Read the article again from yahoo news. http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20090825/sc_livescience/obesepeoplehaveseverebraindegeneration
Jaytb Posted September 4, 2009 Posted September 4, 2009 No you read it wrong then. It said it aged obese peoples brains to look like they have the thinking capacity of a 70 year old because their brains are smaller then skinny people. And small brains by the time your 60 or 70 can start developing dementa. So they realized that these people who are obese can in fact get dementa because of their small brains. Its all about how they don't get enough oxygen and blood flow to the brain, which constricts it from being normal sized for someone in their teens, 20's, and 30's. Read the article again from yahoo news. http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20090825/sc_livescience/obesepeoplehaveseverebraindegeneration argh I want to read the actual article, but I don't have access to it (yet). Anyways these articles are almost always completely overblown by the media, just look at how many times the media reports how bad and good eggs are lol. It's bad, five minutes later, it's good, 2 secs later, it's the worst thing in the world for you. The media doesn't seem to understand what peer reviewed journals are supposed to do. Well anyways, I have read that being overweight as you get older does have an effect on the brain. People who stay in shape as they age tend to develop dementia slower than those who don't exercise. There are many health benefits to staying in shape and fit, so it should be something to strive for for most people.
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