Only attracted to much younger women--any useful thoughts?

[CaliGuy]

At that point it just seems like a lot of women will act like they are attracted to me until they find out I'm 36, and will then shut down.

 

Happens to me as well. When they find out how old I am (because I *do* look very young), some of them are turned off. That's A-OK with me!! I'd rather know that now and wait for the right woman than try and fit a square peg in a round hole, ya know?!

 

I see a lot of posters on this site too that seem to think five years is the maximum respectable age difference. I'm frustrated because I feel like there is a group of women in the age range about 27-30 that I have mutual attraction with, but when they find out how old I am they think it's too old and they won't pursue it.

 

Why would you waste your time on women who aren't interested in you. Consider it a blessing when you find out they aren't interested. That means you are one step closer to meeting the RIGHT woman.

 

Also, in least two cases a woman in this range has decided to pursue a relationship with me, only to have her parents convince/pressure her to end it because of the age.

 

I honestly wouldn't feel comfortable dating someone who is a full grown adult but lets their parents make their dating decisions for them.

 

I realize there is no obvious answer.

 

I gave you the answers. Don't waste your time on people who aren't interested in you. For every 20-something who says NO to your age, there's another out there who will say YES and is waiting to meet you. You're not going to meet her by focusing on the ones who say NO.

 

Put your time and effort into women who are interested in you for who you are. And be up front and honest about your age from the beginning. I make it quite clear that if my age bothers them, then don't waste my time.

[loveslife]

It's not the five-year difference that is the problem, that seems to be okay. If I could meet a whole lot of women who are exactly 31 years old things could probably work with one of them. As I mentioned, the problem seems to come more when I get to the 7-10 year age difference. At that point it just seems like a lot of women will act like they are attracted to me until they find out I'm 36, and will then shut down. I see a lot of posters on this site too that seem to think five years is the maximum respectable age difference. I'm frustrated because I feel like there is a group of women in the age range about 27-30 that I have mutual attraction with, but when they find out how old I am they think it's too old and they won't pursue it. Also, in least two cases a woman in this range has decided to pursue a relationship with me, only to have her parents convince/pressure her to end it because of the age. That's why I say I feel like society is placing these constraints on people.

 

Honestly I'm not really sure what I'm looking for with this thread, I realize there is no obvious answer. I originally posted it on the hope that someone might have something I hadn't thought of. I do appreciate the discussion and some of the comments I've heard with people trying to offer help.

 

Scott

 

I don't think society is really at issue for the instances you mention. I think a parent might be concerned with their child getting involved with someone 10 years older because the parent is thinking down the road and wanting their child to have a partner who will not become elderly ten years before their daughter.

 

Also, it's possible that the parents did not like you for some other reason but the gf said that to let you off the hook easy. Or because you had mentioned this issue to them and they thought it was an easy out.

 

I'm pretty certain society doesn't care if the man is 10 years older. Truly.

 

Is it possible that you've become so intent on this because it's something you can't have? Forbidden fruit in your mind, so to speak?

 

I understand how you feel though. I look at least ten years younger than I am. It panics me sometimes because the men who approach/pursue me who have not known me long think I'm a lot younger and I dread breaking the news.

 

The thing is, in my experience, nobody has broken up with me because of an age difference. The biggest age difference for me was when the guy was 8 years younger than me. But then a guy in his early 20s was pursuing me. He did not know I was over 40 but he definitely thought I was at least 30s.

 

A guy I was involved with who was 7 years younger - it was me who had the issue with age, not him.

 

My uncle has been married for years to a woman 10 years younger. I don't think anybody has ever said anything about the age difference.

 

I think you're focusing on the wrong things here. If a girl is really into you then 10 years is not going to matter.

[Trialbyfire]

Scott, since you've experienced situations where young women are allowing their parents or social influence, to affect their interest in you, is it possible that part of your interest in younger women, is that they're more malleable, beyond the physical?

[You'reasian]

It's shallow for men to chase after the fountain of youth. They should settle. But women shouldn't have to.

 

It was tongue-in-cheek...give me a break. LOL

 

....but question...whose cheek?

[You'reasian]

It's not the five-year difference that is the problem, that seems to be okay. If I could meet a whole lot of women who are exactly 31 years old things could probably work with one of them. As I mentioned, the problem seems to come more when I get to the 7-10 year age difference. At that point it just seems like a lot of women will act like they are attracted to me until they find out I'm 36, and will then shut down. I see a lot of posters on this site too that seem to think five years is the maximum respectable age difference. I'm frustrated because I feel like there is a group of women in the age range about 27-30 that I have mutual attraction with, but when they find out how old I am they think it's too old and they won't pursue it. Also, in least two cases a woman in this range has decided to pursue a relationship with me, only to have her parents convince/pressure her to end it because of the age. That's why I say I feel like society is placing these constraints on people.

 

Honestly I'm not really sure what I'm looking for with this thread, I realize there is no obvious answer. I originally posted it on the hope that someone might have something I hadn't thought of. I do appreciate the discussion and some of the comments I've heard with people trying to offer help.

 

Scott

 

Scott,

 

A 5-10 year age difference between males and females may seem creepy here in the states, but it is perfectly normal in the rest of the world - especially in some countries where its common for women to reciprocate their romantic interest to men.

 

I hope you are able to find someone you are truly interested in who fits what you are looking for.

[clv0116]

The big difference I find is it seems like men want to highlight their ability or desire to get younger women. And then they like to criticize women their own age for having an issue with it.

 

I'll criticize anyone who has an issue with it, but it's usually older women or other women who are having dating issues who make the most fuss. In a nutshell, it's no one's business but those involved.

[clv0116]

A 5-10 year age difference between males and females may seem creepy here in the states' date=' but it is perfectly normal in the rest of the world - [/quote']

 

I recently took a month vacation overseas and there were a LOT of guys older than me dating women that looked to be 25 and younger. It wasn't a case of the 'rich' foreigners doing it either, most of the cases were local guys dating local gals, and both parties seemed pretty happy with it.

[You'reasian]

I recently took a month vacation overseas and there were a LOT of guys older than me dating women that looked to be 25 and younger. It wasn't a case of the 'rich' foreigners doing it either, most of the cases were local guys dating local gals, and both parties seemed pretty happy with it.

 

I've seen it to. I'm not referring to mail order brides either.

 

Why does this workout so well - even if the girl knows she's not coming back with him?

 

I think its the case that alot of American guys are looking for a romantic partnership - a woman whose going to want to hang out with him, talk to him and be simple and down to earth with him.

 

In some countries, men treat women more harshly or are more cold to them and these women are largely turned off by this - and they too are looking for a romantic partnership that's simple and down to earth.

 

These women from these countries feel more at ease with men, take care of themselves rather well and seem to have little to no hangups. And the kinds of American guys that date them don't come across as cheaters and certainly don't have to play games with them.

[clv0116]

Why does this workout so well - even if the girl knows she's not coming back with him?

 

That's a different thing, what I saw was simply local middle aged men dating or married to much younger local women. Of course there were some foreign men there dating locals, but that's a different thing, or at least many would like to say so.

 

In fact the US is an ageist society, and other cultures by and large don't share our views on this.

[You'reasian]

That's a different thing, what I saw was simply local middle aged men dating or married to much younger local women. Of course there were some foreign men there dating locals, but that's a different thing, or at least many would like to say so.

 

In fact the US is an ageist society, and other cultures by and large don't share our views on this.

 

I think we may be comparing two different countries/regions as well. Good point.

[CaliGuy]

I recently took a month vacation overseas and there were a LOT of guys older than me dating women that looked to be 25 and younger. It wasn't a case of the 'rich' foreigners doing it either, most of the cases were local guys dating local gals, and both parties seemed pretty happy with it.

 

I'm sure I mentioned it to JS when she said something about it. I know that it is common everywhere BUT the U.S. for older men to date much younger women. I think maybe the European culture understands that men "grow up" emotionally at much older ages than women do (for the most part).

 

I noticed it when I was bumping around in France. Usually much older men were dating women 10-20 years their junior.

[Isolde]

I noticed it when I was bumping around in France. Usually much older men were dating women 10-20 years their junior.

 

Oui, en France toutes les filles préfèrent les VRAIS hommes comme petits amis...

 

I personally think 20 years is too big of a gap for a serious R. And I don't think Europeans necessarily marry people that much older than them. But for dating, it's not as frowned upon.

 

When it comes down to 10 year age gaps, I find it silly how much of a big deal Americans make about that. Especially when the guy's the older one, that's not much larger than the ideal age gap IMO.

[clv0116]

I'm sure I mentioned it to JS when she said something about it. I know that it is common everywhere BUT the U.S. for older men to date much younger women.

 

I think it's a more natural and probably more stable situation, but most Americans seem to think it's somehow evil.

[You'reasian]

Oui, en France toutes les filles préfèrent les VRAIS hommes comme petits amis...

 

I personally think 20 years is too big of a gap for a serious R. And I don't think Europeans necessarily marry people that much older than them. But for dating, it's not as frowned upon.

 

When it comes down to 10 year age gaps, I find it silly how much of a big deal Americans make about that. Especially when the guy's the older one, that's not much larger than the ideal age gap IMO.

 

Dansons, tu dis,

Et moi, je suis

Mes pas sont gauches

Mes pieds tu fauches

Je crains les sots

Je cherche en vain les mots

Pour m'expliquer ta vie, alors

Tu mentes, ma Sœur

Tu brises mon cœur

 

ok truthfully, I dance better than that...and seeking is never to be vain

[CaliGuy]

Oui, en France toutes les filles préfèrent les VRAIS hommes comme petits amis...

 

I personally think 20 years is too big of a gap for a serious R. And I don't think Europeans necessarily marry people that much older than them. But for dating, it's not as frowned upon.

 

When it comes down to 10 year age gaps, I find it silly how much of a big deal Americans make about that. Especially when the guy's the older one, that's not much larger than the ideal age gap IMO.

 

I think if you're mentally on a similar maturity level (her older, you younger) then I think it can work. If you act 40 and she acts 20, that won't work.

 

And my last G/F was 22 and she was deeply insecure. She used to say all the time "How can a guy like you love a girl like me?!" She didn't believe that I loved her.

 

Her loss, and she has learned that, but life goes on. The relationship didn't fail because of the age difference. It failed because she was insecure, which can be found in anyone of ANY age.

[Isolde]

I think if you're mentally on a similar maturity level (her older, you younger) then I think it can work. If you act 40 and she acts 20, that won't work.

 

And my last G/F was 22 and she was deeply insecure. She used to say all the time "How can a guy like you love a girl like me?!" She didn't believe that I loved her.

 

Her loss, and she has learned that, but life goes on. The relationship didn't fail because of the age difference. It failed because she was insecure, which can be found in anyone of ANY age.

 

Cali, you know I'd always make an exception for you , but I think, frankly, that experience counts for a lot. There's a time component here, that's related to but not directly the same thing as emotional maturity. I'm a perfect example really. I'm 23 and I consider myself very mature and confident in most ways compared to others my age. However, I'm simply not that experienced in life in certain ways, and my maturity doesn't make up for that, which is why I can't see myself dating anyone over around 30.

 

I support your preferences, but I don't think a 20 year age gap, would work for many people at all. That's all I'm saying.

[SincereOnlineGuy]

A recent online friendship with a young, barely-adult online woman has reminded me that there are indeed young women out there who are extremely drawn to older men.

 

In this case, like in so many others, it stems from mild mistreatment at the hands of the adult males during her formative years. (no outright sexual abuse, but just a couple of much-older (adult) males who were 'too close' to her from about the age of 10 on).

 

Once that happens, the young female certainly is not to be blamed for having been 'groomed' (almost) for older men. Such a woman is quite fortunate if she can reach the age of consent without being really wronged.

 

The young person with whom I have struck up a friendship expresses quite clearly to me, to friends, and to family that she is majorly into older guys.

 

This woman is quite attractive, very athletic, and interestingly honest.

 

She speaks of liking older guys "because they are mature and know how to control a woman". Obviously there is some "submissive" trait to her, and while that accent on the apparent non-equality in her ideal relationship with an older guy doesn't appeal to me, it might somehow work for somebody else.

 

This person is only a friend, and of a very short time, but she is quite candid and so I thought I'd pass the bit of info on to the original poster here.

[Scottdmw]

The highlighted part is exactly what i believe too. This may not go over well, but i think it's just the stereotypical "type" of man after the young chick cause he thinks they are hotter. And I say stereotypical because i dont think ALL men are like that. But some are. Tell me its because you think they have a 'free" attitude all you want. But i roll my eyes at that.

 

You needed to come on here to find out why you prefer 20-somethings??You want younger women because you think they are hotter. There. That will be 50 dollars please.

 

Just remember, she wont look 26 all her life. The fact that you will still be older as you both age is not the point. You liked her in the FIRST place because of how 20-somethings look. You are NOT attracted to 30-somethings, remember? You have to FORCE yourself to feel a sparkle.

 

So, the question still stands. What happens when she starts looking 30-something??

 

I've answered variations on this question for two other people, but I guess I'll say it again.

 

--No one can promise what their feelings are going to be in 10 years, only what they will do

--More women initiate divorces than men--women's feelings of attraction change all the time

--I think there is a big difference between being initially attracted to someone and loving them through life

--Attraction or no there is no way I'm going to leave a woman who marries me because she gets older

 

I've said more on the subject. If you'd like to reply on this I would ask you to go back and read what I've already written first as a basis for discussion.

 

Aside from that, thanks to everybody who has replied. I really appreciate the comments.

 

Scott

[SoulSearch_CO]

I gave you the answers. Don't waste your time on people who aren't interested in you. For every 20-something who says NO to your age, there's another out there who will say YES and is waiting to meet you. You're not going to meet her by focusing on the ones who say NO.

 

Put your time and effort into women who are interested in you for who you are. And be up front and honest about your age from the beginning. I make it quite clear that if my age bothers them, then don't waste my time.

Exactly. This is exactly what you need to pay attention to and nothing else, Scott. Who cares about the judgment by people on this board, in society, parents of girls that broke it off, etc. Let it go. Keep looking. I'm 7 years younger than you - 36 doesn't bother me a bit. But then, I was married to a man 15 years my senior and am now dating a man 14 years my senior. I didn't seek either one of these guys out. The age wasn't a dealbreaker for me. But to date - BOTH of these guys, I have had the best chemistry with. I've dated plenty of guys right around my age. I don't have any clue if how things have been have had anything to do with age - it's just the way they've turned out.

 

**** happens. You can't control external influences and you straight up can't control who you're attracted to. You're not going to be able to change the mind of women that don't want you because of your age. Keep looking until you find one that doesn't care. We exist.

[CaliGuy]

Cali, you know I'd always make an exception for you , but I think, frankly, that experience counts for a lot. There's a time component here, that's related to but not directly the same thing as emotional maturity. I'm a perfect example really. I'm 23 and I consider myself very mature and confident in most ways compared to others my age. However, I'm simply not that experienced in life in certain ways, and my maturity doesn't make up for that, which is why I can't see myself dating anyone over around 30.

 

I support your preferences, but I don't think a 20 year age gap, would work for many people at all. That's all I'm saying.

 

Hehe, thanks. Like I said, it takes a special woman for something like that to work. I'm confident enough that I will meet someone that I am not too worried about it.

 

A recent online friendship with a young, barely-adult online woman has reminded me that there are indeed young women out there who are extremely drawn to older men.

 

In this case, like in so many others, it stems from mild mistreatment at the hands of the adult males during her formative years. (no outright sexual abuse, but just a couple of much-older (adult) males who were 'too close' to her from about the age of 10 on).

 

Once that happens, the young female certainly is not to be blamed for having been 'groomed' (almost) for older men. Such a woman is quite fortunate if she can reach the age of consent without being really wronged.

 

The young person with whom I have struck up a friendship expresses quite clearly to me, to friends, and to family that she is majorly into older guys.

 

This woman is quite attractive, very athletic, and interestingly honest.

 

She speaks of liking older guys "because they are mature and know how to control a woman". Obviously there is some "submissive" trait to her, and while that accent on the apparent non-equality in her ideal relationship with an older guy doesn't appeal to me, it might somehow work for somebody else.

 

This person is only a friend, and of a very short time, but she is quite candid and so I thought I'd pass the bit of info on to the original poster here.

 

Meh, I think that can be the case with some women but honestly, the one's I have met just preferred more mature and established men. It had nothing to do with control.

[Jersey Shortie]

Scott

 

Jersie,

What you're saying about men kicking women to the curb is simply untrue in most cases. Most divorces are initiated by women. There are all kinds of threads about women “just not feeling it anymore”. It is usually the men who are kicked to the curb 10 years later.

 

What does that prove? That all men are still attracted to their wives 10 years from now and women aren't? As I said before, what happens to the 25 year old thaht is 35? What woman in her right mind, 25 or 35, should settle for a man that has such a unstable outlook on women?

 

 

From reading your post here, I do hear that you are angry at men and that you feel cheated that men your own age don't seem to like you.

 

Ummm, huhhh? Scott, I never said that once. Infact, I said that I am enjoying dating men closer to my age now much more then when I dated older men. Your statement is 100% false. I have no problem with meeting men my age that like me. I use to date older men and the older I have gotten, the less I wanted to date older men. I especially stay away with men that have the mentality you do. When I was younger, I might not have. And I suspect alot of younger women aren't thinking about what happens to her 10 years from now when she will age jsut like every human an animal and plant species on this earth does. If you only like women within a limited age range, my suggestion is to stock pile on porn. Because real women are human beings and do human beings things. If you want an ideal fantasy, then stick with porn. No problems there.

 

I know you think that is wrong and feel a sense of injustice. I do sympathize with that, but I would ask you to start another thread if that's what you want to talk about.

 

That's okay, because I sympathize with you too. Alot of older men wake up one day and realize that they better settle down and find a woman that can care for them. The problem is, they waited so long, now no one wants them.

 

 

I started this thread looking for suggestions. Do you have any on how we can all make this a better situation, other than telling men that they should feel the way you want or they are bad people?

 

Did I say men were bad people? I said that I stay away from a certain type of man but I never said men were bad people. If you feel that you are this type of man I stay away from and that offends you, that's not something I can help.

 

As for what I suggest, I suggest that you use porn because you will alwys have the ideal 20 something girls you want. Secondly, who cares if women who are 27 don't want you? that's 100% their choice and there is nothing you can do about it. Just like there is nothing a 40 year old woman could do about you dating her. These girls, girls around my age, thing your too old. Case closed. Move on to someone that will accept you.

[CaliGuy]

Jersey, you missed a couple of important points.

 

1. No one said a younger woman had to settle for an older man (or vice versa). People like who they like.

2. If an older man marries a younger woman, relatively speaking she will still be younger than him as they both age and to him, she'll be a younger woman for the rest of their relationship.

3. Not sure why you seem to think that if an older man marries a younger woman, that he'll trade her in for another younger woman. That's an "assumption" based on the insinuation the older man only married her for her age/looks and not because he loves her. I assure you, if he loves her, he will never leave her. Your assumption is that men who marry younger women are insatiable and I am here to tell you that may be the case with the minority, but not the majority and certainly not in my case.

 

Cheers

[Jersey Shortie]

These women from these countries feel more at ease with men, take care of themselves rather well and seem to have little to no hangups. And the kinds of American guys that date them don't come across as cheaters and certainly don't have to play games with them.

 

 

Then why don't you move there? I don't say that to be cheeky. But if this is how you really feel, that's fine. But if that's how you feel, that the grass is greener, why not move to there?

 

ALthough the situation you describe is way to idealistic to be the complete truth.

 

Here is my question for the guys here, why should I extend curties to older men that they wouldn't extend to me if I was older? If an older man considers it to be "settling" for someone his age, why do they expect women younger to settle for him?

 

When I am at the gym it's not the 38+ guys that are getting oggled. It's the hard body 20 something year old guys.

 

SincereOnlineGuy:

A recent online friendship with a young, barely-adult online woman has reminded me that there are indeed young women out there who are extremely drawn to older men.

 

In this case, like in so many others, it stems from mild mistreatment at the hands of the adult males during her formative years. (no outright sexual abuse, but just a couple of much-older (adult) males who were 'too close' to her from about the age of 10 on).

 

Once that happens, the young female certainly is not to be blamed for having been 'groomed' (almost) for older men. Such a woman is quite fortunate if she can reach the age of consent without being really wronged.

 

The young person with whom I have struck up a friendship expresses quite clearly to me, to friends, and to family that she is majorly into older guys.

 

This woman is quite attractive, very athletic, and interestingly honest.

 

 

There can easily be a very predatory thing going on with-in the relationships older men and younger woman. Women often who seek out older men, enjoys it because they quite possibly grew up being preyed on in some forms by older men or are seeking some kind of validation that their father didn't give them. I unfortunetly think this can easily happen to alot of women. Instead of having men that view women as people first to protect as women, more and more men view women as something that is seen as what can most benefit him and prey upon that to fullfill their own desires at the expense of the woman/girl. They aren't looking out for the best interest of the woman. No, not all men do this. But I think sometimes that's easily what can steam relationship with an older man from younger women that are looking for some kind of male validation. Choosing older men isn't because older men are better, but for various reasons that can be deeply physcological. The truth is, today older men aren't better. Men don't take on the responsiblity in life they once did. Women aren't as tied to having to settle for older men either. And women do now pick men based on their looks more then they use to.

 

I can't help but think that often the male desire to talk himself up and how much better he is is really about his own insecurity about his own aging prowlness as he ages is bent out of being less important to the survial of the species. I think older men inherently know that they are no longer the best biological option. So we can talk about how mature older men are and how much money they make, but I personally think what is more attractive then an older man that has finally matured, is a younger man that has the wisedom to mature earlier. And actually, I believe that's the golden calf for most women. If women found a mature young man with his head on his shoulders and who was going places, that is infinitatly more appealing to women then your average older man that took forever to grow up.

 

And I think more and more women are less willing to give men leeway on something men won't give in return.

[Jersey Shortie]

Jersey, you missed a couple of important points.

 

1. No one said a younger woman had to settle for an older man (or vice versa). People like who they like.

 

Agree.

 

2. If an older man marries a younger woman, relatively speaking she will still be younger than him as they both age and to him, she'll be a younger woman for the rest of their relationship.

 

But she won't be 20 forever and that is apparently what men like the most. You didn't hit 30 and stop wanting to be handsome, attractive and percieved as youthful. Neither do women. But it just seems that men consider our worth as women less then what they consider their worth as men to be.

 

3. Not sure why you seem to think that if an older man marries a younger woman, that he'll trade her in for another younger woman. That's an "assumption" based on the insinuation the older man only married her for her age/looks and not because he loves her. I assure you, if he loves her, he will never leave her. Your assumption is that men who marry younger women are insatiable and I am here to tell you that may be the case with the minority, but not the majority and certainly not in my case.

 

Because an older man that is interested in a younger woman is sending a clear message about what is important to him. To then turn around and say that he likes her for much more, is to ignore the real fact that he based his choice *first* on her age and looks. And since no woman stays the same age, I guess as a woman, we just loose out on having a man love us and think we are beuatiful no matter our age.

 

And honestly, men are insatiable and often from the comments here, seem just concerned with a limited age range of women. While I fit that age range now, I won't forever and I am left wondering where that leaves me in the world to men? Unloveable? Less sexy? To the same exact men that sit there and toot their own horns? And these so called older men that would never leave their younger wife, are they still eying 20 year old girls in the street? online?

 

The message it seems is that a man's worth is much more important and better then the worth of a woman. And that seems to be how men like it. But of course, I will be called "evil" even though it's men being pretty clear how they feel about women after a certain age. But I am the "evil" one for feeling uncertain about exactly what is important to men when it seems that it's clear that what is most important, is the age of the women in question. Men can take forever to grow up, and then toot their own horns about how fabulous they are and tell women how awful they are for maturing themselves. It's depressing. And really, weather you are 20 or not, women don't get a break.

[northstar1]

Jersey, you missed a couple of important points.

 

 

 

Agree.

 

 

 

But she won't be 20 forever and that is apparently what men like the most. You didn't hit 30 and stop wanting to be handsome, attractive and percieved as youthful. Neither do women. But it just seems that men consider our worth as women less then what they consider their worth as men to be.

 

 

 

Because an older man that is interested in a younger woman is sending a clear message about what is important to him. To then turn around and say that he likes her for much more, is to ignore the real fact that he based his choice *first* on her age and looks. And since no woman stays the same age, I guess as a woman, we just loose out on having a man love us and think we are beuatiful no matter our age.

 

And honestly, men are insatiable and often from the comments here, seem just concerned with a limited age range of women. While I fit that age range now, I won't forever and I am left wondering where that leaves me in the world to men? Unloveable? Less sexy? To the same exact men that sit there and toot their own horns? And these so called older men that would never leave their younger wife, are they still eying 20 year old girls in the street? online?

 

The message it seems is that a man's worth is much more important and better then the worth of a woman. And that seems to be how men like it. But of course, I will be called "evil" even though it's men being pretty clear how they feel about women after a certain age. But I am the "evil" one for feeling uncertain about exactly what is important to men when it seems that it's clear that what is most important, is the age of the women in question. Men can take forever to grow up, and then toot their own horns about how fabulous they are and tell women how awful they are for maturing themselves. It's depressing. And really, weather you are 20 or not, women don't get a break.

 

Does suddenly a few represent all?

 

JS you admit that you are disillusioned by men, and that is evident on a regular basis in your posts. Nearly all your posts end up making mention of how the majority of men on this board think poorly of women - employing sweeping generalizations which end up being nested in nearly all your posts. I think that this viewpoint is so entrenched in your psyche you don't even realize you are applying it so liberally.

 

It appears you are so jaded and disillusioned by men that it results in a skewed perception of how most men think.

 

From your views on here, it appears that you honestly believe this is the status quo amongst men - which makes it hard to believe your arguments come a place of unbias.

 

Certainly there are some men on here who post offensive and demeaning views about women, but do you really think it is fair to paint the rest of us with such a broad brush?