Hkizzle Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 I keep seeing these threads where guys ask, "why is it women like taller men? " Or women asking "why do men like younger prettier girls?" Is it really that hard to figure out, or are these people just venting? It's imprinted in our genes. Taller men with broad shoulders are generally larger than shorter men, they are more physically powerful in a fight, and better hunters because a taller male can cast a spear further. They are therefore better able to protect a female of a species. Younger and more beautiful are indicators of better fertility. A women with a 1.4 hip to waist ratio 35-25-35 is a lot more fertile than a woman with a 1 to 1 hip to waist ratio. I read somewhere they are 3 times more fertile. As for the people that come out and say, well I know a woman that dates a 5"5 guy, or I know men that like fat women. Come on, those are the exceptions to the rule. At the end of the day the majority of people pick the best of what they can get. Whilst we can't get any taller or younger, we can still do our best to look our best. People should be hitting the gym and making themselves look good rather than worrying why they're not being picked. There are so many people being lazy, getting fat and then wondering why the hell they aren't being picked.
Lyssa Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 I like tall men but if my fiance was not a tall men, I wouldn't die or not date him. It's what he has to offer that matters to me. Also, it has never bothered me if a guy finds another woman more attractive than i am. So what if he does? It's not the end of the world.
tkgirl Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 I keep seeing these threads where guys ask, "why is it women like taller men? " Or women asking "why do men like younger prettier girls?" Is it really that hard to figure out, or are these people just venting? It's imprinted in our genes. Taller men with broad shoulders are generally larger than shorter men, they are more physically powerful in a fight, and better hunters because a taller male can cast a spear further. They are therefore better able to protect a female of a species. Younger and more beautiful are indicators of better fertility. A women with a 1.4 hip to waist ratio 35-25-35 is a lot more fertile than a woman with a 1 to 1 hip to waist ratio. I read somewhere they are 3 times more fertile. As for the people that come out and say, well I know a woman that dates a 5"5 guy, or I know men that like fat women. Come on, those are the exceptions to the rule. At the end of the day the majority of people pick the best of what they can get. Whilst we can't get any taller or younger, we can still do our best to look our best. People should be hitting the gym and making themselves look good rather than worrying why they're not being picked. There are so many people being lazy, getting fat and then wondering why the hell they aren't being picked. yep.. exactly... we are attracted to what we are are attracted to! but that's just the physical aspect of attraction... I've been with a few hot bods in my day and I still try to keep fit myself... but physical attraction is a small part of what makes a relationship work.
Author Hkizzle Posted August 30, 2009 Author Posted August 30, 2009 I like tall men but if my fiance was not a tall men, I wouldn't die or not date him. It's what he has to offer that matters to me. Also, it has never bothered me if a guy finds another woman more attractive than i am. So what if he does? It's not the end of the world. I didn't say personality doesn't matter, it's more important. The point is, to say physical aspects doesn't matter is more of an excuse than anything for some people.
Lyssa Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 yep.. exactly... we are attracted to what we are are attracted to! but that's just the physical aspect of attraction... I've been with a few hot bods in my day and I still try to keep fit myself... but physical attraction is a small part of what makes a relationship work. Tee hee hee. I agree with you!
Thaddeus Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 I think there's a lot of misconceptions about how important physical attractiveness is in a relationship. In short, it's much, much more important than we might think. So when I read comments like, "physical attraction is a small part of what makes a relationship work," I have to disagree. It's not a small part at all - in fact, it's extremely important. Science backs it up, too. See: Live Science: The Rules of Attraction in the Game of Love From the article:After fidelity, the most important attributes were physical appearance, family commitment, and wealth and status
Vet Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 Whilst we can't get any taller or younger, we can still do our best to look our best. People should be hitting the gym and making themselves look good rather than worrying why they're not being picked. There are so many people being lazy, getting fat and then wondering why the hell they aren't being picked. Being picked? What is this, 7th grade gym class? Instead of trying to make yourself more attractive to fit some homogenized ideal that no one can even find a consensus on, why not feel better about who you are and take some initiative to take your fate into your own hands? Sitting around, waiting to be "picked" sounds horrible.
Author Hkizzle Posted August 30, 2009 Author Posted August 30, 2009 Being picked? What is this, 7th grade gym class? Instead of trying to make yourself more attractive to fit some homogenized ideal that no one can even find a consensus on, why not feel better about who you are and take some initiative to take your fate into your own hands? Sitting around, waiting to be "picked" sounds horrible. Picking out problems with words based on semantics on forums is friggin annoying. You know the overall message. Grow up man seriously. You got issues. Yes, people are picked. Unless you want to go around raping people.
Vet Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 Picking out problems with words based on semantics on forums is friggin annoying. You know the overall message. Grow up man seriously. You got issues. Yes, people are picked. Unless you want to go around raping people. How is it semantics? Your overall message was "Of course people like [insert conventional look], so get off your lazy butt and get into the gym so someone will pick you." Yeah, people are picked, because they try to follow society's message that you have to look like A, B, and C in order to be desirable to anyone. If you don't have those six-pack abs, you may as well relegate yourself to living under a bridge. Screw that. Be yourself, be happy and comfortable with who you are, and you'll have people flocking to you. You'll do the "picking".
Author Hkizzle Posted August 30, 2009 Author Posted August 30, 2009 Screw that. Be yourself, be happy and comfortable with who you are, and you'll have people flocking to you. You'll do the "picking". See, you speak like a delusional person. You pick and choose what you want to read from my message. People should be comfortable and happy with who they are, but then they shouldn't want to date hot women or rich men. So many of these threads are complaining about what they can't get. If they want to date hot women and rich men but at the same time are too lazy to do something about their situation under the excuse "be yourself" THEY ARE LAZY!
Author Hkizzle Posted August 30, 2009 Author Posted August 30, 2009 Screw that. Be yourself, be happy and comfortable with who you are, and you'll have people flocking to you. You'll do the "picking". LOL, yeah, I remember this 500 lb man on the news, and really smart, interesting attractive women were flocking to him by the dozen. If you were the World's life coach, the entire world would be over weight.
EarthGirl Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 I would agree that being fat is not attractive on a biological and emotional level for most people. I am fat currently and I have no problem admitting that. In fact I think people who do have "fat fetishes"...well there is a reason they call it a fetish, because it is out of the ordinary for a reason. And I am sure that is because on a biological level, it is true that healthier people are more fertile, and all we know looking with our eyes is that we either like what we see or don't, but the majority of people prefer someone who is not too overweight. That said, that does not account for women who are a little "curvier" and plenty of men like them, they may even be slightly overweight by today's supposed medical standards but they are sexy to plenty of men. By the same token, some men prefer much thinner, svelte, ladies...nothing wrong with either of those scenarios..although perhaps because of the societal brainwashing, sometimes men even prefer ladies that are underweight, anorexic, malnutritioned and almost skeletal...or at least on the border of that, but are still healthy enough to not look freakish and have healthy skin, etc. However, I disagree about the height thing with men. I have said in other threads, just in a completely shallow, lustful way, I find shorter men just as attractive as tall ones. Perhaps not more, but definitely just as, eh, sometimes more. I don't know what science has to say about my biological attractions, but I'm pretty sure I am not out of the ordinary nor do I have a "fetish" for short men just because I would be just as attracted to an attractive 5'5 guy as a 6 foot one.
Vet Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 See, you speak like a delusional person. You pick and choose what you want to read from my message. People should be comfortable and happy with who they are, but then they shouldn't want to date hot women or rich men. So many of these threads are complaining about what they can't get. If they want to date hot women and rich men but at the same time are too lazy to do something about their situation under the excuse "be yourself" THEY ARE LAZY! Unfortunately for you, no one's really complaining that they can't get hot women or rich men or whatever qualification you've now thrown in to modify your original post. No one is saying, "I'm fat, ugly and short. Why can't I get supermodels?!" What you've done here is create a straw man argument. They're complaining that they can't get anyone because they are trying to adhere to an ideal that is unreasonable and usually unattainable when they should be embracing who they are. That is what attracts people; not a washboard stomach and some arbitrary height requirement.
EarthGirl Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 LOL, yeah, I remember this 500 lb man on the news, and really smart, interesting attractive women were flocking to him by the dozen. If you were the World's life coach, the entire world would be over weight. OMG. Hkizzle, you don't get it, the majority of fat people in the world are fat precisely because people like you were their parents, or their first boyfriend or girlfriend, or their gym teacher, lol...or their supposed best childhood friend.
Vet Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 LOL, yeah, I remember this 500 lb man on the news, and really smart, interesting attractive women were flocking to him by the dozen. If you were the World's life coach, the entire world would be over weight. Yeah? That 500 pound guy that never got out of his house and the only human interaction he had was the pizza deliveryman? You're getting really good at knocking down those straw men, buddy. And you know what? Yeah, maybe the entire world would be overweight, but between being miserable trying to meet some numbered goal, they might actually be happy.
EarthGirl Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 See, you speak like a delusional person. You pick and choose what you want to read from my message. People should be comfortable and happy with who they are, but then they shouldn't want to date hot women or rich men. So many of these threads are complaining about what they can't get. If they want to date hot women and rich men but at the same time are too lazy to do something about their situation under the excuse "be yourself" THEY ARE LAZY! "THEY ARE LAZY!" Wow, yeah, three little words that must explain the whole problem, could not possibly be any more complex than that. maybe for some people that do not have a whole lot of brain power, though ; ). If YOU were the world's life coach, half the world would be overweight and the other half would be going on yo yo diets working their butt off again and again losing the weight trying to gain your approval after you basically stuck a kick me sign on their back (don't know why anybody would want the approval of a total a$s like you or work that hard to get it, but people do) and gaining back twice as much.
LucreziaBorgia Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 Some people aren't 'lazy' - just trapped in unfortunate physical circumstances that put them on the outskirts of the dating world.
Author Hkizzle Posted August 30, 2009 Author Posted August 30, 2009 Some people aren't 'lazy' - just trapped in unfortunate physical circumstances that put them on the outskirts of the dating world. Some people are like that. However, the average weight of people in the US has gone up steadily from the 1970's onwards. If it's genetic it's understandable. I disagree with Earthgirl, if there was MORE social pressure to stay slim rather than everyone thinking it's ok to eat so much fast food then the society would stay slimer. In many European countries they don't face the same problem, despite the people sharing similar genes to the people in the US.
Vet Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 In many European countries they don't face the same problem, despite the people sharing similar genes to the people in the US. This is a large misconception. Obesity rates around the world have gone up; this isn't something that's specific to the United States.
Author Hkizzle Posted August 30, 2009 Author Posted August 30, 2009 This is a large misconception. Obesity rates around the world have gone up; this isn't something that's specific to the United States. That's true. But when making comparisons you compare the relative aspects. If Europeans and Americans share the same genes but Americans are a lot fatter, that's a behavioral issue. Too much driving around, and not enough walking. Too much fast food and not enough time in the gym. I see you're from Houston, the fattest city in the US. I hit a sore spot?
Vet Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 That's true. But when making comparisons you compare the relative aspects. If Europeans and Americans share the same genes but Americans are a lot fatter, that's a behavioral issue. Too much driving around, and not enough walking. Too much fast food and not enough time in the gym. I see you're from Houston, the fattest city in the US. I hit a sore spot? Of course it's behavioral, but more pertinently, it's sociological. The only person that even mentioned genetics in this thread was you. Seriously, I think you need to read this: Straw man. No one is arguing that genes are the reason that people are fat, so why are you bringing it up? I don't think you could hit a spot, sore or otherwise, if you tried. You have the argumentation skills of a child, which might be why you seem to display a similar research ability.
C-i-C-u Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 OMG. Hkizzle, you don't get it, the majority of fat people in the world are fat precisely because people like you were their parents, or their first boyfriend or girlfriend, or their gym teacher, lol...or their supposed best childhood friend. With that comment, I know why we have threads like this in the first place. People don't ever forget, you have one bitter individual after the other and when given the chance, they will abuse you. This world has too much hate in it.
EarthGirl Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 Some people are like that. However, the average weight of people in the US has gone up steadily from the 1970's onwards. If it's genetic it's understandable. I disagree with Earthgirl, if there was MORE social pressure to stay slim rather than everyone thinking it's ok to eat so much fast food then the society would stay slimer. In many European countries they don't face the same problem, despite the people sharing similar genes to the people in the US. I'm telling you about a subject that I know a hell of a lot better than you. It's not just because I am fat myself and I am making "excuses" for myself. I don't feel the need to defend myself to you cause you ARE as a$s, and I don't need your approval or admiration to feel ok.... Americans are fatter because we have more fast food available, commercials all the time picturing beautiful delicious food...we also drive most places instead of walking or taking public transportation (which still requires a little bit of walking steadily every day to and from bus stops and train stations)...that is because of the way our country is set up as compared to Europe. It is too far for many Americans to walk, even if they were as fit as an Olympian (especially considering time limits in busy lives), so they have to drive, they have no choice. Of course it is not logical if you are going to get in the car and drive, to park 3 blocks away from your destination each day just so you get a little bit of exercise... It is simply human instinct to drive all the way there. That is why even in the U.S., people that live in cities tend to be thinner than those that live in the suburbs. There is also the simple high prevalence of fast food in America, being it's birthplace...I know McDonalds are in all corners of the world now, but there are still just so many different places here, that are tasty but perhaps less healthy. easy to get means more likely to eat. I am NOT for getting rid of fast food because even though I know I will have to give up a lot of it, I still plan to eat it occasionally (yeah, so what it would really depress me if I could never have another whopper, I am not ashamed), and I also think that an even bigger part of the problem is a mass psychological breakdown and it may have a lot to do with our somewhat shady mental health system, and also ironically our American media being so very focused on beauty and above all slimness (oh but it's really all about "health" right Entertainment tonight?) at all costs...When a person knows that they cannot pull out all the stops and will NOT be able to be slim at all costs ( I think there are more worthy things of such effort)...they give up...not knowing that there's a middle road and a way to be healthier and slim without going through utter hell between starving yourself and pushing your body to the limits when you are not an athlete type..as not all of us are. I mean look at our TV shows...the Biggest Loser...a play on words, meaning literally the one who loses the most weight but we all know it's a pun and the other meaning is "loser" as in one who loses constantly in life (soy un perdedor, so why don't you kill me?)...a worthless person..an undesirable, a loser. Even our supposed TV shows that are meant to "help" people, are demeaning them horribly all at the same time. Then they push them to their limits and humiliate them, and call them "winners" only after they have lost a bunch of weight. As long as we keep projecting the image that the only way you can win in life is to be thin, and the only way to be thin is to go through hellish pain rivaling working in a prison camp or training for the Olympics....there are going to be people that give up and turn to their ice cream instead. You may think that they are "losers" and are not "tough enough" and are "lazy"...but it's not for you to judge. only God knows the truth about who these fatsos really are. Maybe they have already been through more Hkizzle, than you have ever been in your entire life, and survived it, more than you could even dream of in your worst nightmare. Maybe they are really gorgeous goddesses that will totally tell you to f off when in either this life or the next they turn into who they really are, and you can't stop drooling over them as if they were a choice juicy cheeseburger that you can never ever have ; )
likeORIGAMI Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 I don't think you could hit a spot, sore or otherwise, if you tried. You have the argumentation skills of a child, which might be why you seem to display a similar research ability. End of discussion. LOL
Author Hkizzle Posted August 30, 2009 Author Posted August 30, 2009 I'm telling you about a subject that I know a hell of a lot better than you. It's not just because I am fat myself and I am making "excuses" for myself. I don't feel the need to defend myself to you cause you ARE as a$s, and I don't need your approval or admiration to feel ok.... Americans are fatter because we have more fast food available, commercials all the time picturing beautiful delicious food...we also drive most places instead of walking or taking public transportation (which still requires a little bit of walking steadily every day to and from bus stops and train stations)...that is because of the way our country is set up as compared to Europe. It is too far for many Americans to walk, even if they were as fit as an Olympian (especially considering time limits in busy lives), so they have to drive, they have no choice. Of course it is not logical if you are going to get in the car and drive, to park 3 blocks away from your destination each day just so you get a little bit of exercise... It is simply human instinct to drive all the way there. That is why even in the U.S., people that live in cities tend to be thinner than those that live in the suburbs. There is also the simple high prevalence of fast food in America, being it's birthplace...I know McDonalds are in all corners of the world now, but there are still just so many different places here, that are tasty but perhaps less healthy. easy to get means more likely to eat. I am NOT for getting rid of fast food because even though I know I will have to give up a lot of it, I still plan to eat it occasionally (yeah, so what it would really depress me if I could never have another whopper, I am not ashamed), and I also think that an even bigger part of the problem is a mass psychological breakdown and it may have a lot to do with our somewhat shady mental health system, and also ironically our American media being so very focused on beauty and above all slimness (oh but it's really all about "health" right Entertainment tonight?) at all costs...When a person knows that they cannot pull out all the stops and will NOT be able to be slim at all costs ( I think there are more worthy things of such effort)...they give up...not knowing that there's a middle road and a way to be healthier and slim without going through utter hell between starving yourself and pushing your body to the limits when you are not an athlete type..as not all of us are. I mean look at our TV shows...the Biggest Loser...a play on words, meaning literally the one who loses the most weight but we all know it's a pun and the other meaning is "loser" as in one who loses constantly in life (soy un perdedor, so why don't you kill me?)...a worthless person..an undesirable, a loser. Even our supposed TV shows that are meant to "help" people, are demeaning them horribly all at the same time. Then they push them to their limits and humiliate them, and call them "winners" only after they have lost a bunch of weight. As long as we keep projecting the image that the only way you can win in life is to be thin, and the only way to be thin is to go through hellish pain rivaling working in a prison camp or training for the Olympics....there are going to be people that give up and turn to their ice cream instead. You may think that they are "losers" and are not "tough enough" and are "lazy"...but it's not for you to judge. only God knows the truth about who these fatsos really are. Maybe they have already been through more Hkizzle, than you have ever been in your entire life, and survived it, more than you could even dream of in your worst nightmare. Maybe they are really gorgeous goddesses that will totally tell you to f off when in either this life or the next they turn into who they really are, and you can't stop drooling over them as if they were a choice juicy cheeseburger that you can never ever have ; ) This is what I mean. If a person who I didn't even know making a comment on some random forum can make me type so much with so much emotion. I would turn that energy into going to the gym. I never said anything about walking to work. I assume any individual has enough time in the day to run 15 minutes. Everyone has a choice in life to make a positive change. There's a subtle difference betwee "you are beautiful the way you are" and someone using that line as an excuse not to do any exercise when there is plenty of time during the day to get healthy.
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