MadDriver Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 Who said anything about 30 year old strippers? What a weird thing to bring into the mix, I don't doubt you for a second that 18 year old strippers are probably in more demand than 30 year old ones. But a strip club is sooooo just like real life, isn't it? Maybe yours. Eek. Not mine. You seem like a reasonable person (unlike Vet who just wants to pick fights), so let me elaborate a little. There are several studies published in Evolution and Human Behavior that use strip clubs as a "laboratory" for studying human sexuality. For example, they've found that during some part of the menstrual cycle (I forget the name), strippers would earn much more money. So men have some unconscious way to detect peak fertility. Of course if you ASK the men why they picked that particular stripper, that particular night, they'd never TALK about fertility, because it's all unconscious, instinctive behavior. You can only see this effects in the numbers, the statistics. Curiously enough, if the stripper went on the pill, then her earnings were basically flat throughout the month -- men knew, at an unconscious level, that this particular female is not fertile. Again, TALKING about all this (the conventional method of women's "research") is utterly useless. Other strip club findings: blondes make much more money than brunettes, hence the conclusion that men prefer blondes. Younger strippers make much more money than older strippers, hence the conclusion that men prefer younger women. Again this is all "common sense" for most people with a little world-experience, but there are always the Vet's of the world who demand proof of anything that doesn't fit his world-view. So here it is. Remember, we're talking about statistics here. Let me just give an example with made-up numbers. Let's say out of 10 men, 9 will choose the younger woman, but there is always that exception that chooses the older one. If you choose to surround yourself with the exceptional people, then more power to you... but that doesn't change the fact that the great majority, 90% of males on the planet are going to choose the younger woman. (I used made-up numbers, but I'm sure some enterprising grad student can dig-up empirical evidence with hard numbers).
sb129 Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 When you put it like that, it does make some sense. However, its just not my own personal experience. For which I am grateful... Thanks for sharing though.
Lish Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 I just feel like the guys in my age group want the younger girls 18-20. I stress that they may find them more youthful and attractive than girls in their mid 20s Some guys tend to want girls younger than them... so why not go for a man slightly older? You know...a man who is older than you might go for younger women...ie, your age.
Chubbi Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 So what? You want to be a 20 year old again to attract pervy, creepy old men who probably just want to get in your pants to make themselves feel better? Is that all your life is about? Changing yourself or moping because you can't change yourself to appease some people who don't even care about you? How backwards is that. Take it from me, the grass is always greener on the other side.
Joie de Vivre Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 I'm starting to get very depressed the older and older I get. I'm jealous of the younger girls who are 18-20ish. Even men admit to thinking that younger girls are more physically attractive. I'm so insecure to the point that I don't even want to leave the house anymore because I feel old and think I'm starting to look old. when i look in the mirror i see that mid 20ish look that doesn't have that super young and fresh look like a teenager. We can't really control what men prefer or don't prefer. What's more beneficial and productive is to focus on ourselves. If you want to feel more fresh and young, then focus on taking care of yourself physically and looking your very best (no starving, just go to the gym and get a nutritionist). There are also other ways to feel young: the wear you wear your makeup, hair and clothes can make a difference. There are so many things you can do -- so don't ever feel insecure! I have some friends whose mothers look like cougars and are absolutely gorgeous! us 20-something year olds end up envying these 40 something year olds so it's all up to you either be insecure and do nothing. or be confident and do something about it good luck
Die Hard Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 You need to address you vanity and insecurity. Until then, you'll always have this issue, seeing that you'll never be 20 again. The problem isn't men, younger women, society or anything else. It's your vanity and insecurity. Only seeing some kind of counselor can help, although, I will admit having gone through this with many women and I've never seen it get better, only worse as years go by and you continue to get older. At the end of the day, the key is to age with grace.
donnamaybe Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Do you seriously not see there is something wrong with constantly comparing yourself to others and finding yourself lacking in some - nay - EVERY way?! In THIS thread you feel too old. In the other, you're never going to be pretty enough. That's a sad way to live, hon. Please - PLEASE - get some help for your poor view of yourself.
clv0116 Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 .... men who probably just want to get in your pants to make themselves feel better? Honestly now, I think that most guys want in womens pants because it feels good. It's not really a creepy pervy thing is it? Or am I the only guy who's motivated by a pleasure response? On topic, the OP is not old but she's got a realistic if somewhat exaggerated view. My opinions on this are broadly scorned (or was it scorned by the broads?) here in the past but I'll just summarize and say that as long as she's mindful of the traps that can accompany aging (weight gain, etc) and cares for herself she's got plenty of dating years to go before she has to start cultivation of a love of cats.
Jersey Shortie Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 Yay...another thread to tell women what pieces of crap for aging they are while men are so fantastic and wonderful no matter their age. Thanks guys!
You'reasian Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 Yay...another thread to tell women what pieces of crap for aging they are while men are so fantastic and wonderful no matter their age JS, I'm sure beneath the bitter texts and insecurities, you are a fit, attractive, sensible woman. Thanks guys! Anytime.
audrey_1 Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 Please hear what I'm saying. I was engaged to an older man in my mid-twenties. He snatched me up with his wooing and wealth because I was a hot 20-something. Then he wined and dined me to the point that I gained tons of weight and felt/looked horrible. I felt completely undesirable, ugly, worthless. But I snatched myself up and left the relationship, moved to the other side of town, starting playing tennis 3x a week, running, eating differently, drinking lots of water. Taking care of myself again. I'm in my mid-thirties now, and I can tell you that I look and feel hotter than I ever did in my twenties --- and people notice. If you take care of yourself, love yourself, and do your best AT ANY AGE, people notice. You can't hide it. You shine from within. I was on a vacation and approached by a MALE in HIS mid-twenties, and let's just say, it was quite the encounter. He was SHOCKED to find out my age, and when he did, he was like, wow, I didn't know what I was missing with "older" women. There's no time to get depressed and woeful. Snap out of it ASAP and take care of yourself.
Jersey Shortie Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 JS, I'm sure beneath the bitter texts and insecurities, you are a fit, attractive, sensible woman. But I am aging as we speak, as all women are and that alone makes us less worthy. We should just start shooting women after 19. That way men can have the kind of women they really want.
Die Hard Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 But I am aging as we speak, as all women are and that alone makes us less worthy. We should just start shooting women after 19. That way men can have the kind of women they really want. You act as if you're the first woman to have to age. And let me tell you something: you could be blonde 19 and the most beautiful woman on the planet but your attitude makes you completely unattractive. There is much more to a woman than looks. It's too bad you cannot see that. You think men want to stick around pretty women with a crappy attitude? Maybe for a night but that's it. I'd prefer an average looking woman with a great personality that draws me in. One that doesn't care if she's wearing no make-up to go hiking. You are so obssessed with looks and age that I'd be totally turned off without ever even seeing you.
Jersey Shortie Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 Thanks but I am not too turned on by you either. I digress. I have learned that men are very concerned with looks. And while you will settle for an average looking girl tobe with, you will still oggle highly hot attractive women in real life or in porn. Yay!
You'reasian Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 But I am aging as we speak, . Me too. Its purely a coincidence as all women are and that alone makes us less worthy. . In my opinion a woman's appearance doesn't make her less worthy, her personality does. I find alot of different kinds of women attractive - but personality is the kicker. We should just start shooting women after 19. That way men can have the kind of women they really want. How beautiful are you on the inside? Let's see how beautiful your personality is...
Thornton Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 Firstly, you're not exactly old. You're past the point of looking like a child and into looking like a woman, which isn't a bad thing. Most rising Hollywood stars are around your age. Why do you want to look like a child anyway? If guys your age want to date younger girls, let them get on with it - you can date hot 30yo guys with secure careers who know how to treat a woman properly. Secondly, chronological age doesn't completely dictate physical age - I'm 30 and I'm in better shape than some 20yo I know. I eat well and exercise, and I know more about makeup and fashion and what suits me than I did a decade ago. When I visited my mother recently, her new neighbour thought I was her granddaughter - she assumed I was about 20. Last Xmas I got carded for buying alcohol too. I know girls several years younger than me who could pass for being 35, and yet I can pass for being early 20s. Thirdly, how good you look has more to do with genes and effort, and less to do with age. Women such as Jennifer Aniston are more beautiful at 40 than some other women will ever be in their entire lives, even if they're half her age. I'd rather be 40 and hot than 20 with an unfortunate nose and bad hair.
Author MissJoness Posted September 24, 2009 Author Posted September 24, 2009 Firstly, you're not exactly old. You're past the point of looking like a child and into looking like a woman, which isn't a bad thing. Most rising Hollywood stars are around your age. Why do you want to look like a child anyway? If guys your age want to date younger girls, let them get on with it - you can date hot 30yo guys with secure careers who know how to treat a woman properly. Secondly, chronological age doesn't completely dictate physical age - I'm 30 and I'm in better shape than some 20yo I know. I eat well and exercise, and I know more about makeup and fashion and what suits me than I did a decade ago. When I visited my mother recently, her new neighbour thought I was her granddaughter - she assumed I was about 20. Last Xmas I got carded for buying alcohol too. I know girls several years younger than me who could pass for being 35, and yet I can pass for being early 20s. Thirdly, how good you look has more to do with genes and effort, and less to do with age. Women such as Jennifer Aniston are more beautiful at 40 than some other women will ever be in their entire lives, even if they're half her age. I'd rather be 40 and hot than 20 with an unfortunate nose and bad hair. If its such a good thing to look like a woman than why do so many people, older adults brag about still looking like a teenager? I hear them all the time, saying how folks say they look like they're 16, or how when they go into a high school to pick up their kids, they get mistaken for one of them. It's all about being really really young, and not looking like a young adult. You tell a 35 year old they look 15 and their face lights up
bayouboi Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 If its such a good thing to look like a woman than why do so many people, older adults brag about still looking like a teenager? I hear them all the time, saying how folks say they look like they're 16, or how when they go into a high school to pick up their kids, they get mistaken for one of them. It's all about being really really young, and not looking like a young adult. You tell a 35 year old they look 15 and their face lights up I have a different perception on this. When I see a 30 yr old woman that I think looks like she's in her late teens/early 20s, what I mean is that she looks like how I remember them to look. The difference is that the girls who are ACTUALLY in their late teens to me look like freaking babies and ARE NOT attractive to me. Also consider that those who are in their late teens are always trying to look several years older than they actually are. I think a woman's prime is mid 20s to mid 30s. In 10 yrs I will think a woman's prime is mid 30s to mid 40s ^_^.
Jersey Shortie Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 In my opinion a woman's appearance doesn't make her less worthy, her personality does. I find alot of different kinds of women attractive - but personality is the kicker. You are so full of it. You are one of the many guys around here that sit round decrying women for their age. And yet, you expect women to have the values you yourself don't. For what purpose? I just love when men say "it's about the presonality", but then talk about the hot 20 year old. It's ironic. You have expectations on women that YOU don't value yourself and then you men wonder why women are insecure or worry about their bodies. Maybe you should take your own advice.
kiss_andmakeup Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 You tell a 35 year old they look 15 and their face lights up Uhhh...I don't know who you've been talking to, but I'm 22, and if someone told me I looked 15, I'd be kind of offended. I really don't think any grown women want to look like 15 year old girls.
deux ex machina Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 If its such a good thing to look like a woman than why do so many people, older adults brag about still looking like a teenager? I hear them all the time, saying how folks say they look like they're 16, or how when they go into a high school to pick up their kids, they get mistaken for one of them. It's all about being really really young, and not looking like a young adult. You tell a 35 year old they look 15 and their face lights up If someone were to tell me I look 15, I would think they were deluded. If my "face lit up" at that, I would be, too. No different than monkeys picking nits from each other. I cannot figure out why this is important.
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