Die Hard Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 We already told him exactly this 3 pages ago. We told him to forget about her, ask her out, move on to new girls, we did all that. He just wanted to be coddled. He has gotten obsessed with this girl, and has already imagined all sorts of things in his mind about her, thats why he has to believe she likes him, otherwise everything he believes is wrong. He already asked her out, she said no, a few times. Then he stares at her but doesnt say anything on multiple occasions. Then he comes here and asks if she likes him. He only wanted us to tell him that she did like him, but he wont do anything about it. He has come back here and asked the same thing multiple times. So it doesnt matter what we tell him, hes not going to listen anyway. He will find out the hard way that hes going to crash and burn with this girl, and he will probably come back and ask what he did wrong. We were trying to save him the trouble of finding out the hard way that girls change their mind like they do underwear, but he doesnt believe that. He's a kid. He's too scared to ask her, he never will. He's worried about getting embarrassed. Hell man, it sounds like you're describing most of us here. I see the same adults posting the same crap constantly here. I read a lot but don't post much mostly out of laziness regarding having to log in. Here's a 15 year old kid though who probably will be like most people here and do what he's going to do and not listen, but who we might actually be able to help by imparting some words of wisdom that in retrospect might make some sense for him as he experiences these things. Anyway just my opinion and not saying I'm right
likestolaugh Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 cardinalfan sounds like the other (actually maybe the same) guy from St. Louis (the Blues fan) who couldn't take a hint either....
Author cardinalfan5 Posted August 30, 2009 Author Posted August 30, 2009 OK one last question now im saying if IF she told my friend she liked me what could of changed her mind in the next 4 days? Id like to know this for future cases just in case. Waht would cause her to like me 4 days before and not like me 4 days after. and BTW she does not have a boyfriend. That is not an option.
xpaperxcutx Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 OK one last question now im saying if IF she told my friend she liked me what could of changed her mind in the next 4 days? Id like to know this for future cases just in case. Waht would cause her to like me 4 days before and not like me 4 days after. and BTW she does not have a boyfriend. That is not an option. I'm starting to think that you think we have third eyes behind our heads or that for some reason we can give you the universal answer that you seem to be eluding. We don't know!!! High school girls are teenagers that are still growing. Even looking back on my own experience, I'm not even clear what went through my head everytime I started liking a guy. Maybe it's too early for you to see, but when you're in college, you'll start viewing high school as a phase. And it literally is. Aside from studies and taking your SATs, you'll probably won't have much memories about the girl that you puked on at a party or the guy that everyone on the football team bullies. So instead of questioning why she did this or that, end your misery now and ask her.
Die Hard Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 OK one last question now im saying if IF she told my friend she liked me what could of changed her mind in the next 4 days? Id like to know this for future cases just in case. Waht would cause her to like me 4 days before and not like me 4 days after.. Dude you're going to be asking yourself this question regarding MANY women. There is no answer. Haven't you ever changed your mind before? Maybe she said she liked you to be nice. Maybe she was ****ing with you..maybe she had gas that day and wasn't herself. But you better get used to it because these are the kinds of issues that occur when dating. You can either ask her out or not, everything else is just noise in your head. Stop thinking and start doing. Update us when you've made a move or decided not to.
Author cardinalfan5 Posted August 30, 2009 Author Posted August 30, 2009 Yes but not 4 days after I said that. That seems really confusing to me. She asked my friend and she didnt even know her a month before she told her friends and I found out. Is there any real reason why she would change it in a week timespan? I might of screwed up on the messages LOL at myself.
stuckinwithyou Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 girls some time are weird and unpredictable she is not selling what ur buying you are wasting ur time I remember similar experiences when I was ur age and now I feel like such an idiot for even considering looking at them nevertheless thinking about them in the past.
boogieboy Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 Honestly, I can't tell from what he's written. It's probable she doesn't, but it's also possible that HS relationship politics is interfering. Actually I was being a dick because I knew he would ask that again. Cardinal, I already posted what you did to change her mind in 4 days, check page 3.
dreamergrl Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 What the hell does GTFO Dreamer mean??? I'm always the bad guy. Why? Because I don't surgar coat it. But yet, how many people have now said the same thing? :rolleyes::rolleyes: We're aren't just dealing with the average teenage boy here. It's a little more then that, because he has the obsessive analyzing tendencies. I'm telling you, this will only get worse with age.
callingyouuu Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 Yes but not 4 days after I said that. That seems really confusing to me. She asked my friend and she didnt even know her a month before she told her friends and I found out. Is there any real reason why she would change it in a week timespan? I might of screwed up on the messages LOL at myself. You did not screw up on the messages. You asked her out, she said no. No matter how long you stare at your Facebook inbox wondering what went wrong, that's ALL that happened. Is there a real reason? Perhaps. I'm just going to throw a few out there. 1. She never liked you. She just acted like she did because she wanted to explore what flirting is like. When you finally took the bait, she didn't think you were worth dating. 2. She did like you, but then she talked to her friends about it, and they were jealous that she already had someone who liked her and discouraged her from accepting your advances, at which point she just made up a reason about not wanting to date during the summer. 3. You farted in class one day and she thought it was disgusting. Truth is, no one on this earth can answer that question. I don't even think she knows exactly why she did it. Relationships are complicated. The more you think about them, as I think you've realized, the more they drive you crazy. The best thing you can do is not worry about what she thinks. All you should care about at this point is where you want this to go. If you like her, ask her out again. I think you're just waiting for her to hold up some kind of neon sign that says "I LOVE YOU PLEASE ASK ME OUT AND HAVE MY BABIESLOL!!" because you're scared that she'll turn you down. In short, you're overcomplicating it. If you like her, don't think. Just act. You want your answer as to whether or not she likes you, right? I guarantee you, asking her out is the only way to truly know. If you want it, you're the only person in this entire world who's going to get it for you, or else it'll slip away.
tkgirl Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 What the hell does GTFO Dreamer mean??? I'm always the bad guy. Why? Because I don't surgar coat it. But yet, how many people have now said the same thing? :rolleyes::rolleyes: We're aren't just dealing with the average teenage boy here. It's a little more then that, because he has the obsessive analyzing tendencies. I'm telling you, this will only get worse with age. yea, I wanted to know what the heck GTFO meant too... and DG, stop being such the BE-O-chaaaa! :lmao:
tkgirl Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 You did not screw up on the messages. You asked her out, she said no. No matter how long you stare at your Facebook inbox wondering what went wrong, that's ALL that happened. Is there a real reason? Perhaps. I'm just going to throw a few out there. 1. She never liked you. She just acted like she did because she wanted to explore what flirting is like. When you finally took the bait, she didn't think you were worth dating. 2. She did like you, but then she talked to her friends about it, and they were jealous that she already had someone who liked her and discouraged her from accepting your advances, at which point she just made up a reason about not wanting to date during the summer. 3. You farted in class one day and she thought it was disgusting. Truth is, no one on this earth can answer that question. I don't even think she knows exactly why she did it. Relationships are complicated. The more you think about them, as I think you've realized, the more they drive you crazy. The best thing you can do is not worry about what she thinks. All you should care about at this point is where you want this to go. If you like her, ask her out again. I think you're just waiting for her to hold up some kind of neon sign that says "I LOVE YOU PLEASE ASK ME OUT AND HAVE MY BABIESLOL!!" because you're scared that she'll turn you down. In short, you're overcomplicating it. If you like her, don't think. Just act. You want your answer as to whether or not she likes you, right? I guarantee you, asking her out is the only way to truly know. If you want it, you're the only person in this entire world who's going to get it for you, or else it'll slip away. GREAT advice!!! I think we all can take something from this... and I really hope cardinal5 gets it too... eventually!
dreamergrl Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 Hey TG.... DTMB hahahahahha :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao: Okay back to the topic at hand. I wasn't being a beotch, I was just bluntly explaining that no means no. However, when OP can't take that (or no for an answer for that matter), and keeps trying to convince himself that a 10 min gaze means true love... well come on... In all seriousness. I wish someone would have explained over analyzing to me much earlier in life, because it became much harder to kick. Maybe GTFO is... Get The Frick Off
Author cardinalfan5 Posted August 30, 2009 Author Posted August 30, 2009 Yeah I get it.. But ive also heard that it is way different asking someone out online than it is in public. True? So I guess she might have gotten discouraged or something or didnt know what to say of how she was not willing to date in the summer and accidentally said some things and im going to ask my friend in public. Havent asked her in public yet. and I dont know if this helps but here Me June 3 at 12:03pm Hey Alexis Id like to sya first of all it is not my fault I didnt ask out elena.. she was with one of her friends. 2 questions. I kinda forgot what she said to you... what was it again? And when should I ask her to be my GF? like ive known her for close to a year. How many times would i have to date her? I promise after this week i will stop bugging you. Alexis June 3 at 4:21pm haha, no it's fine. i love helping! it's like my favorite thing to do! so don't threat, all is good here. She said that it was the end of the school year and she didn't know when she would be able to see you, but that doesn't mean no. it just means you have to make special arrangments to hang out with her and stuff. take her out like 3-4 times (just as friends) and on the date you want to ask her out, take her to something that she lovesssss to do, not a movie though...thats a very first friend date thing to do. take her rollar skating, or to the arcade. or something. in the middle of the day, when your both laughing or having a good time, turn to her and tell her that you something important to ask her, then POP THE QUESTION! and you should be in! if you find any flaws in my BRILLANT plan, just tell me! and again, don't worry, i love talking to people and helping them sort things out. if your ever feeling bummed about something, or just really want somebody to talk to, i'm here! have a great summer, and good luck. much love, Alexis ♥ Me June 3 at 4:44pm OK so shes not saying she wouldnt wanna see me its that she wants to see me but doesnt know how right? And its ok to ask her on a date through facebook right? Im gonna ask her out in person but i guess on facebook ask her out on a friendly date is fine right? But you do gurantee shell say yes right? Im really nervous weve got anxiety problems in our family. thts probably why. Her June 3 at 4:52pm BTW when she asked when she was going to see me again. Was she just talking about just seing me at something or going on a date? Her June 3 at 6:48pm Yes. no, not a date, but a friendly get together yes. i am about 90% sure she'll say yes. im not sure what she was implying. im not her. lol. but my guess was seeing you. Yeah sort of didnt listen. Didnt really make special arrangements. OH and I almost forgot I think she wanted it a secret. Thats what she told me when she got back. Maybe that was because summer was pretty much the day after and she didnt want to date anyone period.
dreamergrl Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 All I saw was that your friend said she'd say yes to a friendly get together. That's it. I see nothing that implies this girl was ever interested in you. She's said no. Why are you obsessing?
callingyouuu Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 GREAT advice!!! I think we all can take something from this... and I really hope cardinal5 gets it too... eventually! Haha, yay! I think he does. He just chooses not to acknowledge it right now. Which, funnily enough, we all do sometimes when we're trapped in the unholy vortex of obsession...
tkgirl Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 Hey TG.... DTMB hahahahahha :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao: Okay back to the topic at hand. I wasn't being a beotch, I was just bluntly explaining that no means no. However, when OP can't take that (or no for an answer for that matter), and keeps trying to convince himself that a 10 min gaze means true love... well come on... In all seriousness. I wish someone would have explained over analyzing to me much earlier in life, because it became much harder to kick. Maybe GTFO is... Get The Frick Off I was thinking Get The Frick Out.. of here... I guess that would be GTFOOH... anyho! I know... you gave him great advice about not over-analyzing that stuff... he just doesn't want to listen unfortunately. I wish that was something I had learned when I was younger... I'm still the queen of analyzing things to death and it gets me NO WHERE! Rock On DG!!!
tkgirl Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 Yeah I get it.. But ive also heard that it is way different asking someone out online than it is in public. True? So I guess she might have gotten discouraged or something or didnt know what to say of how she was not willing to date in the summer and accidentally said some things and im going to ask my friend in public. Havent asked her in public yet. and I dont know if this helps but here Me June 3 at 12:03pm Hey Alexis Id like to sya first of all it is not my fault I didnt ask out elena.. she was with one of her friends. 2 questions. I kinda forgot what she said to you... what was it again? And when should I ask her to be my GF? like ive known her for close to a year. How many times would i have to date her? I promise after this week i will stop bugging you. Alexis June 3 at 4:21pm haha, no it's fine. i love helping! it's like my favorite thing to do! so don't threat, all is good here. She said that it was the end of the school year and she didn't know when she would be able to see you, but that doesn't mean no. it just means you have to make special arrangments to hang out with her and stuff. take her out like 3-4 times (just as friends) and on the date you want to ask her out, take her to something that she lovesssss to do, not a movie though...thats a very first friend date thing to do. take her rollar skating, or to the arcade. or something. in the middle of the day, when your both laughing or having a good time, turn to her and tell her that you something important to ask her, then POP THE QUESTION! and you should be in! if you find any flaws in my BRILLANT plan, just tell me! and again, don't worry, i love talking to people and helping them sort things out. if your ever feeling bummed about something, or just really want somebody to talk to, i'm here! have a great summer, and good luck. much love, Alexis ♥ Me June 3 at 4:44pm OK so shes not saying she wouldnt wanna see me its that she wants to see me but doesnt know how right? And its ok to ask her on a date through facebook right? Im gonna ask her out in person but i guess on facebook ask her out on a friendly date is fine right? But you do gurantee shell say yes right? Im really nervous weve got anxiety problems in our family. thts probably why. Her June 3 at 4:52pm BTW when she asked when she was going to see me again. Was she just talking about just seing me at something or going on a date? Her June 3 at 6:48pm Yes. no, not a date, but a friendly get together yes. i am about 90% sure she'll say yes. im not sure what she was implying. im not her. lol. but my guess was seeing you. Yeah sort of didnt listen. Didnt really make special arrangements. OH and I almost forgot I think she wanted it a secret. Thats what she told me when she got back. Maybe that was because summer was pretty much the day after and she didnt want to date anyone period. this is just too cute! sorry.. I guess I forgot what it's like to be so young. Back in the day we would pass each other notes and write stuff like "do you like so and so? circle yes or no" then pass them the note. Maybe you could try that? But then again, we were like 12 or 13 when we did that...
dreamergrl Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 this is just too cute! sorry.. I guess I forgot what it's like to be so young. Back in the day we would pass each other notes and write stuff like "do you like so and so? circle yes or no" then pass them the note. Maybe you could try that? But then again, we were like 12 or 13 when we did that... Don't encourage him! He needs to forget about this girl...
tkgirl Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 Don't encourage him! He needs to forget about this girl... :laugh: oh, and... DTMB!
dreamergrl Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 :laugh: oh, and... DTMB! Don't Text Me Back :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao: What a dummy! It would make sense his way either... cuz downtown is one word :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao: Okay, that ends my thread jacking sorry.
tkgirl Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 Don't Text Me Back :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao: What a dummy! It would make sense his way either... cuz downtown is one word :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao: Okay, that ends my thread jacking sorry. I know, at first I was like... DTMB? why does that look familiar? ok.. back to the topic at hand... or not!
Author cardinalfan5 Posted August 30, 2009 Author Posted August 30, 2009 All I saw was that your friend said she'd say yes to a friendly get together. That's it. I see nothing that implies this girl was ever interested in you. She's said no. Why are you obsessing? I forgot to add the fact that she asked if she would date me. She said yes. Are you retarted???
Die Hard Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 I forgot to add the fact that she asked if she would date me. She said yes. Are you retarted??? Dude quit letting her yank your chain. She's just trolling this thread...second only to you in posts to this thread with nothing to say other than to yank your chain and act like a bitch. I told you to leave this site and go ask the chick out. That's what you need to do now. Anything else is just mental masturbation at this point. You want to prove people wrong then go get a date with the girl Even if you try and fail I for one will give you an attaboy!
Left in a Lurch Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 Yes but not 4 days after I said that. That seems really confusing to me. She asked my friend and she didnt even know her a month before she told her friends and I found out. Is there any real reason why she would change it in a week timespan? I might of screwed up on the messages LOL at myself. She was never interested, she did not have to change her mind in just 4 days. What was she going to tell your friend? She was being nice. He probably put her in an akward position asking her about you and she wasn't going to say she had no interest in you at all and hurt your feelings. Same thing for her friends. She point blank told you she did not want to date you but you can't accept that. What does it matter why she "changed her mind" (which she did not)? You will never know the answer, but people like and date who they want to for a multitude of reasons. Think of someone you have no interest in and now imagine them asking you out or having a friend ask you if you were interested. What would you say? If you're cornered you'd say something like, "I would but I am really busy with my job after school", or "I have a lot of things going on, I'm just too busy". You're not going to say, "Tell her no way, she's ugly and annoying. I would never date her, ever!" She might even take your responses that as soon as you are not so busy you'll want to go out with her, but the truth is you have no interest. Would you want her to keep after you or would you want her to move on? What would you think of her if she sat around forever wondering why you "changed your mind" when in reality you had no interest to begin with? She was being nice. She was not interested. The proof is in the fact that you are not dating her, nor did you ever date her. If she was ever really interested, you would have gone on a date, point blank.
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