GorillaTheater Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 Or is it more pertinent to ask whether older men want to be infertile? I would, but after a vasectomy AND a reversal, I'm a little gunshy. I've already fathered more kids than any rational person should.
Jersey Shortie Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 You keep saying that men don't age, in your own writing. That's your claim. I've never said that they don't age. Like your arguments with Gorilla and others, you project assumptions onto others - most of them born of your own insecurities - then argue tooth and nail against them. Its almost like you're arguing against yourself. No. What I said was that it's men's personal perceptions that they don't age. That is my claim. Seriously, the fact you want to lecture me about projecting assumptions is laughable. Take a look at yourself. A question: Who here thinks older men want to be fertile, generally speaking? I don't think most men go around saying "Gee, I hope I am still fertile". I do think men want to live life where they are still a big part of being able to pass on their genes to the genetic pool, which is the same thing as wanting to be fertile. I have heard alot of men talk and stuff and know they are not immune about worrying about getting older and less attractive. Your comment about having more kids then a rational person would was cute though. Grudgingly admitted. My uncle has 6 kids, I love 5 of them. But he is a good man and him and his wife work really hard.
You'reasian Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 Seriously, the fact you want to lecture me about projecting assumptions is laughable. Take a look at yourself. . Its hardly a lecture but I do enjoy the predictable and fiesty responses
Jaytb Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 Who's shallower? The rich and/or powerful man who likes younger, beautiful women, or the women who are most desirous of said rich and/or powerful men? It's funny. I mean, at the end of the day, this thread is supposed to be about rich and powerful men who date beautiful women only. I mean, seriously, what do you expect? don't they have the pick of the litter, so to speak? you think they'll be un-shallow cuz you're special? It'd be like if you worked for Hyundai and complained that rich people only buy BMWs. Why the hell can't they give a good old Hyundai a chance? (I say this fully knowing the irony of Hyundai selling $40,000+ luxury vehicles now. And hey, what can I say, I think the Hyundai Genesis is pretty good.) EDIT: sorry for off topic-ness
Trialbyfire Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 I find this stereotyping of men into these boxes, offensive. Meet some "rich and powerful" men and see them as individuals, then come back and tell me that they're all like this. There are dicks in every walk of life.
carhill Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 In my personal experience, with men who control the lives and fortunes of others, I'd put the ratio somewhere in the 60-40 range in favor of the d!cks. With the non-d!cks, they're pretty compartmentalized, so are generally great personally but hell to do business with. MPD, in a way, but predictable
Trialbyfire Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 Business and pleasure are two different things. I've had far better treatment on a personal level from "wealthy and powerful" men, than others. This includes common courtesy and respect. As for business, the strong survive. I have no problems with that. As my old mentor loved to say "if you're going to run with the big dogs, you'd better learn to pee a little higher"!
carhill Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 Yeah, we compare when pissing into the bushes
Jersey Shortie Posted September 9, 2009 Posted September 9, 2009 Its hardly a lecture but I do enjoy the predictable and fiesty responses You're a weirdo.
SoulSearch_CO Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 Believe it or not, men, whether powerful or wealthy or handsome, all three, or any other combination thereof, are just men like any other. Some can love and others can't. I'm finding this to be true. My XH had FAR less to offer a woman and was a worse lover (I'm talking about loving somebody...not ****ing them) than the new guy that has far MORE to offer. I find this stereotyping of men into these boxes, offensive. Meet some "rich and powerful" men and see them as individuals, then come back and tell me that they're all like this. There are dicks in every walk of life. You know...before dating the current guy, I had a certain perception about guys as explained above. I'd say the stereotype came more from what people say than what I had experienced myself. And really, believing that men are a certain way because of their life circumstance just about screwed things for me because I held him at arm's length. In other words, don't judge a book by it's cover...whether the cover is completely nasty or the most beautiful thing you've ever seen. You're bound to be surprised.
Trialbyfire Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 I'm finding this to be true. My XH had FAR less to offer a woman and was a worse lover (I'm talking about loving somebody...not ****ing them) than the new guy that has far MORE to offer. You know...before dating the current guy, I had a certain perception about guys as explained above. I'd say the stereotype came more from what people say than what I had experienced myself. And really, believing that men are a certain way because of their life circumstance just about screwed things for me because I held him at arm's length. In other words, don't judge a book by it's cover...whether the cover is completely nasty or the most beautiful thing you've ever seen. You're bound to be surprised.These men are just men. Some absolute pricks, others rational, decent men and others, nice guys. And I stand by that I've been better treated by "wealthy and powerful" men, than the average Joe. At least most of these guys have some manners...
Jersey Shortie Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 And they don't whine if they *gasp* purchase you a..... hold on to your hats folks... Coffee.
silic0ntoad Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 Hm. I work for an insurance company that insures wealthy folks. I can honestly tell you, most of the guys that we insure are almost ALL married, and almost ALL of their wives are their age, or within 5 years.
bayouboi Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 I get the feeling that this thread could have been posted by a man under the heading 'Young, Pretty Girls' with the following body: Are there any young, pretty women happily married to men their own income level? I'm getting older and I'm wondering if women prefer powerful, wealthy men. Also I worry that as a man ages he just can't compete with a powerful, wealthy man. Women are always drawn to the most powerful and wealthy men. I notice this, it's sad but true for example at a party at a restaurant they stare at the most powerful, wealthiest in the room. This prob sounds immature. But may have some good points.
bayouboi Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 Point being of course that you seek a man that's powerful and wealthy to take care of you, but said man might prefer someone who's younger and prettier all else being equal on what you can provide for him. Meanwhile, someone who's closer to your income level is seeking you out, but you prefer someone who can provide more for you. The only thing rich in this equation besides the powerful and wealthy man is the irony.
Jaytb Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 I get the feeling that this thread could have been posted by a man under the heading 'Young, Pretty Girls' with the following body: Are there any young, pretty women happily married to men their own income level? I'm getting older and I'm wondering if women prefer powerful, wealthy men. Also I worry that as a man ages he just can't compete with a powerful, wealthy man. Women are always drawn to the most powerful and wealthy men. I notice this, it's sad but true for example at a party at a restaurant they stare at the most powerful, wealthiest in the room. This prob sounds immature. But may have some good points. lol actually that should say "as a man loses his income or becomes unemployed, he just can't compete with rich, powerful men". It's like you stole this idea right from my head although I suggested instead to whine about gold digger supermodels.
Jaytb Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 I find this stereotyping of men into these boxes, offensive. Meet some "rich and powerful" men and see them as individuals, then come back and tell me that they're all like this. There are dicks in every walk of life. Pfffft. We men can stereotype other men every way we damn well like, and there ain't nuttin' you can do 'bout it. Business and pleasure are two different things. I've had far better treatment on a personal level from "wealthy and powerful" men, than others. This includes common courtesy and respect. yeah, but you're from Canuckstan. I hear you people live in igloos and ride dog sleds to work. And your work is wrestling polar bears \\:lmao:
You'reasian Posted September 11, 2009 Posted September 11, 2009 And they don't whine if they *gasp* purchase you a..... hold on to your hats folks... Coffee. Agreed. I've known decent fellas to put their girlfriend up in $400 per night in decent hotel rooms for a weekend getaway. That's probably peanuts to most, but upwards for some It just depends on the guy. Other fellas I know cook for their girlfriends - grill, salads etc. - granted we're not 4 star hotel chefs, but as long as people are getting fed and happy - it works. And then serenading a girlfriend by guitar and song is a great transition into the evening for other activities...
Jersey Shortie Posted September 11, 2009 Posted September 11, 2009 Agreed. I've known decent fellas to put their girlfriend up in $400 per night in decent hotel rooms for a weekend getaway. That's probably peanuts to most, but upwards for some I assume that the men where with them on these weekend getaways right? Clearly, it's not he isn't getting anything out of it. Not to say that is bad but to say that you knwo guys that "put their girlfriends up..." insinuates that he was doing it all for her.
You'reasian Posted September 11, 2009 Posted September 11, 2009 I assume that the men where with them on these weekend getaways right? Clearly, it's not he isn't getting anything out of it. Not to say that is bad but to say that you knwo guys that "put their girlfriends up..." insinuates that he was doing it all for her. Of course they were with them - couples spend time together. Thinking about and appreciating the other person is a normal thing in relationships, especially when you love someone. It goes both ways. I know, that's a foreign concept to some folks.
Surfer Girl Posted September 12, 2009 Posted September 12, 2009 Most powerful men feel they can get whoever they want.... flaunt the money, power, etc.... Good for them.... When it is all said and done.... Was that person there for the power, money whatever.... or does one compromise for the power and money and wants the oh so nice life..... Who wants someone for money.... how will you ever know if that person loves you for money, power,,,, or just who you are!!! I have been with someone that had it all.... and I loved him for him..... good luck finding someone that loves you for you.... they will want you for your power and money..... manipulation at its best.....
Trialbyfire Posted September 12, 2009 Posted September 12, 2009 Pfffft. We men can stereotype other men every way we damn well like, and there ain't nuttin' you can do 'bout it. Sure you can, just as I can state that it offends me when it's done. yeah, but you're from Canuckstan. I hear you people live in igloos and ride dog sleds to work. And your work is wrestling polar bears \\:lmao:Don't forget the mucklucks and seal skins we wear in Canada. As a technologically advanced country, we also have Internet in our Igloos.
Jersey Shortie Posted September 12, 2009 Posted September 12, 2009 Of course they were with them - couples spend time together. Thinking about and appreciating the other person is a normal thing in relationships, especially when you love someone. It goes both ways. I know, that's a foreign concept to some folks. Are you really this dense?
You'reasian Posted September 12, 2009 Posted September 12, 2009 lol actually that should say "as a man loses his income or becomes unemployed, he just can't compete with rich, powerful men". It's like you stole this idea right from my head although I suggested instead to whine about gold digger supermodels. If a guy is rich and powerful, he's rich and powerful - and if women respect him for that, more power to him. I'm sure rock stars, actors and financially independent types probably have some impressive stories about their girlfriends - but money can'y buy true love. I've heard a few lady friends say "money can'y buy love, but its easier to cry while sitting in a jaguar than a honda" - it is what it is.
You'reasian Posted September 12, 2009 Posted September 12, 2009 Are you really this dense? As dense as you are pleasant to be around and loveable .
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