If theyre going to VEGAS without you and NOT being flirty ARE THEY JUST NOT THAT INTO

[Nagini]

Sigh,

so my friends and perfect strangers tell me im the 'total package'

but, but the two guys Ive been dating over the last 6 months (no not at the same time as all. one if local and one is mid distance away)

are both giving me super red flags, no RED BEACONS that are warning signs that theyre so not into me anymore.

 

am i overthinking the following facts ?

 

guy 1- 40 years old

we had an amazing time first 3 months but then his ex wife started taking up his time because she was jealous of me.

so he and i broke up for a bit.

 

he just settled with his ex wife on the sale of their house earlier this week.

he has been super busy with work travel, moving, running two businesses.

he had a minor accident last month, then a car accident and then his best friend's dad died.

he has his son 50% of the time so that makes it hard to see him a lot

so one of our dates was canceled

but now I just found out that this weekend he is flying 2500 miles away to Las Vegas

and this is his fb status update: Settlement on sale of the house was monday.. nightmare finally behind me. leaving for Vegas.

want a lot of r&r... turning my phone off and leaving my MAC laptop back home.

 

>>>

uh so call me clueless but this means off to have sex in vegas, right ?

i havent seen him in A MONTH and im sad now.

 

next guy:

 

lives 2-3 hours away

weve been friends for two years while we dated others

we started to have a great time dating

but things fell apart over the last two dates.

he was very sweet and nice until i started to give him oral.

idk, then he has acted more cool and cocky.

 

 

we have a lot in common also.

 

i noticed that since our last date he won't flirt with me online and usually when i do this: :* xo he will return the same

instead he doesnt or he changes the subject.

 

 

when i told him i had a job interview in his city and am working two jobs right now, he said wow youre busy and take care"

 

(take care ? wth ?)

 

i also left my shoes at his house 3 weeks ago

now he has lost them (i think he hid them from another girl)

 

lastly he keeps signing onto match.com a lot. so i unhide my profile there to see if he cared. no reaction.

 

but he does call me 3-4 times a week.

 

its very confusing.

 

advice ?

[alphamale]

advice ?

welcome to teh world of dating

[boogieboy]

FInd new guys, Your instincts are right.

[Vet]

Sigh,

so my friends and perfect strangers tell me im the 'total package'

but, but the two guys Ive been dating over the last 6 months (no not at the same time as all. one if local and one is mid distance away)

are both giving me super red flags, no RED BEACONS that are warning signs that theyre so not into me anymore.

 

am i overthinking the following facts ?

 

guy 1- 40 years old

we had an amazing time first 3 months but then his ex wife started taking up his time because she was jealous of me.

so he and i broke up for a bit.

 

he just settled with his ex wife on the sale of their house earlier this week.

he has been super busy with work travel, moving, running two businesses.

he had a minor accident last month, then a car accident and then his best friend's dad died.

he has his son 50% of the time so that makes it hard to see him a lot

so one of our dates was canceled

but now I just found out that this weekend he is flying 2500 miles away to Las Vegas

and this is his fb status update: Settlement on sale of the house was monday.. nightmare finally behind me. leaving for Vegas.

want a lot of r&r... turning my phone off and leaving my MAC laptop back home.

 

>>>

uh so call me clueless but this means off to have sex in vegas, right ?

i havent seen him in A MONTH and im sad now.

 

next guy:

 

lives 2-3 hours away

weve been friends for two years while we dated others

we started to have a great time dating

but things fell apart over the last two dates.

he was very sweet and nice until i started to give him oral.

idk, then he has acted more cool and cocky.

 

 

we have a lot in common also.

 

i noticed that since our last date he won't flirt with me online and usually when i do this: :* xo he will return the same

instead he doesnt or he changes the subject.

 

 

when i told him i had a job interview in his city and am working two jobs right now, he said wow youre busy and take care"

 

(take care ? wth ?)

 

i also left my shoes at his house 3 weeks ago

now he has lost them (i think he hid them from another girl)

 

lastly he keeps signing onto match.com a lot. so i unhide my profile there to see if he cared. no reaction.

 

but he does call me 3-4 times a week.

 

its very confusing.

 

advice ?

 

You're dating both of 'em and it doesn't really sound like you're that into either of them. Not sure why you're surprised they're returning the favor.

[alphamale]

You're dating both of 'em and it doesn't really sound like you're that into either of them. Not sure why you're surprised they're returning the favor.

indeed....

[boogieboy]

You're dating both of 'em and it doesn't really sound like you're that into either of them. Not sure why you're surprised they're returning the favor.

 

Indeed and ouch!

[Nagini]

You're dating both of 'em and it doesn't really sound like you're that into either of them. Not sure why you're surprised they're returning the favor.

nah i actually care and appreciate and love stuff about both of them

[Vet]

nah i actually care and appreciate and love stuff about both of them

 

Okay then.

[Hkizzle]

The first guy is probably there to have sex, yes.

 

The second guy, he's gotten his sex. He's acting cocky now because he doesn't really care.

[Pink Cupcakes]

I'm confused because with the first guy you said you broke up "for a bit" and you haven't seen him in a month....so you did officially get back together and now he's off to Vegas and he can't even call to tell you this himself? Or are you still broken up or "taking a break"? A guy who was dating you would at least tell you he was going to Vegas for a few days instead of posting it on Facebook. I would write this guy off. I don't know - I don't think everyone goes to Vegas for sex.

 

Maybe the 2nd guy wants you to make a move yourself on him...for example, you could follow with "While I'm in your town for the interview, maybe we could go to a place you like together"

Maybe he was like "take care" because he was (albeit immaturely) hoping you'd ask to see him while you're there or even stay with him.

[Hkizzle]

I'm confused because with the first guy you said you broke up "for a bit" and you haven't seen him in a month....so you did officially get back together and now he's off to Vegas and he can't even call to tell you this himself? Or are you still broken up or "taking a break"? A guy who was dating you would at least tell you he was going to Vegas for a few days instead of posting it on Facebook. I would write this guy off. I don't know - I don't think everyone goes to Vegas for sex.

 

Maybe the 2nd guy wants you to make a move yourself on him...for example, you could follow with "While I'm in your town for the interview, maybe we could go to a place you like together"

Maybe he was like "take care" because he was (albeit immaturely) hoping you'd ask to see him while you're there or even stay with him.

 

No everyone pays for sex. But a guy recently through a nightmare divorce with this msg:

 

"Settlement on sale of the house was monday.. nightmare finally behind me. leaving for Vegas.

want a lot of r&r... turning my phone off and leaving my MAC laptop back home. "

 

Is more than 50% likely to be paying for sex.

[Vet]

No everyone pays for sex. But a guy recently through a nightmare divorce with this msg:

 

"Settlement on sale of the house was monday.. nightmare finally behind me. leaving for Vegas.

want a lot of r&r... turning my phone off and leaving my MAC laptop back home. "

 

Is more than 50% likely to be paying for sex.

 

I don't think that's a logical conclusion at all.

[Hkizzle]

I don't think that's a logical conclusion at all.

 

So my faithful Leghumper, why is it not a logical conclusion?

[Vet]

So my faithful Leghumper, why is it not a logical conclusion?

 

Because absolutely nothing points to that, at all, and on top of that you're throwing out percentages like they mean something--so you're saying maybe he's paying for sex while equally maybe he's not? Why are you even posting it then? You have no idea one way or the other whether he meant gambling, drinking, sitting by the pool relaxing, or having sex with hookers (or any of the other women that frequent Vegas bars) when he said "plenty of r&r".

 

Point is that you have no basis for what you stated except maybe your personal opinions on what r&r in Las Vegas means, which unfortunately for you are pretty irrelevant, unless we're talking about you specifically or more developments reveal themselves for making a more informed opinion.

[Lyssa]

Okay then.

 

 

OP, I would drop them and get new prospects.

[Hkizzle]

Formula = (a) number of hookers working X (b) number of men they service in a day X © the average length of stay (2.5 days) / Number of single male visitors with no female friends or family to Vegas

 

Unless hookers are starving to death, you know simply by the number of men they service, what % of men pay for sex in vegas.

 

Whilst that doesn't show the certainty of this individual I am of course looking at whether he's a high risk group. Mr Leghumper.

[Vet]

Formula = (a) number of hookers working X (b) number of men they service in a day X © the average length of stay (2.5 days) / Number of single male visitors with no female friends or family to Vegas

 

Unless hookers are starving to death, you know simply by the number of men they service, what % of men pay for sex in vegas.

 

Whilst that doesn't show the certainty of this individual I am of course looking at whether he's a high risk group. Mr Leghumper.

 

Seriously, invest in a basic statistics book. I think it would do you a world of good, especially if you're going to write about this topic.

[Hkizzle]

Seriously, invest in a basic statistics book. I think it would do you a world of good, especially if you're going to write about this topic.

 

how hard is the friggin formula to understand?

 

Ten thousand hookers in Vegas X 8 men a day X 2.5 days. Which means that in your average 2.5 day period, assuming each customer only pays once for sex, Vegas hookers are serving in the region of 200 thousand men.

 

You just stupid. Amigo

[Hkizzle]

Seriously, invest in a basic statistics book. I think it would do you a world of good, especially if you're going to write about this topic.

 

I told you already what I was going to write about. I never said I was going to get scientific. The best selling self help books are not written by doctors, and have zero stats.

 

I wasn't planning to write about paying for hookers either. It's just common sense that with the huge number of hookers in Vegas........ on the streets, in the bars, in the casinos, in personals, in escort services that over 50% of the guys going there with no female attachments are paying for sex.

[Pink Cupcakes]

I don't think that's a logical conclusion at all.

 

Yes, see I don't think a man would want to announce he was out seeking prostitutes to all his facebook contacts. To me I would take it as "leaving work behind"...doesn't mean sex necessarily. Maybe if he were 21 and trying to brag or something but not an adult mature man.

[Hkizzle]

Yes, see I don't think a man would want to announce he was out seeking prostitutes to all his facebook contacts. To me I would take it as "leaving work behind"...doesn't mean sex necessarily. Maybe if he were 21 and trying to brag or something but not an adult mature man.

 

No of course he's not going to brag about going to pay for sex. Even a 21 year old wouldn't. I don't think I've ever met a single man that openly goes and tells people he's going to pay for sex, unless it was a close friend and they both do it.

 

You got to read the msgs coded, and understand what a large % of single non attached men will do in Vegas.

[Thornton]

Dump both of them. Why are you letting guy #2 stick his c*** in your mouth if you're not in a relationship? He's using you, you don't know where he's been, plus there's nothing in it for you and he clearly doesn't care about that.

[Pink Cupcakes]

True, I'm sure you can do better than that. If you can attract these two guys, you can attract two guys who are better guys.

[Vet]

I told you already what I was going to write about. I never said I was going to get scientific. The best selling self help books are not written by doctors, and have zero stats.

 

I wasn't planning to write about paying for hookers either. It's just common sense that with the huge number of hookers in Vegas........ on the streets, in the bars, in the casinos, in personals, in escort services that over 50% of the guys going there with no female attachments are paying for sex.

 

At least you've admitted that there's absolutely nothing scientific about what you're talking about in any regard, so stop trying to use these false percentages to make it sound like you know what you're talking about. It's not common sense at all. Your "formula" takes some far-fetched assumptions--that there are 10,000 prostitutes (how exactly did you come up with this number or is it "common sense" again?), that each of these 10,000 prostitutes are servicing eight customers a day (again, just pulling this out of your ass), and finally assuming that there are enough men willing to do so.

 

I can make up numbers to prove my point too: There's 5,000 prostitutes in Las Vegas, but only half of those work on a given day, so 2,500, with the average person pulling in 3 tricks a day to an average of 7500 tricks in a day per weekend. Two days in the weekend is 15,000 tricks for the population of Las Vegas. There's a 500,000 people that visit Las Vegas any given weekend, with half of those being men. So you have 250,000 potential prostitution patrons, but don't also forget the people that live there that patronize, so let's just say there's 50,000 men in the area (of a population of 1.8 million). So you have 300,000 potential people to pay for sex with an average of 15,000 tricks. Therefore, less than .05 of people pay for sex while visiting Las Vegas, a definite far cry from your 50%, and while I'm making up numbers, at least I admit it.

 

The point is: You have absolutely no idea what this guy is doing in Las Vegas, and to jump to that conclusion because that's the first thing that popped into your head doesn't mean that's really the case in reality.

[Hkizzle]

You're right. You got me. You know a lot more about prostitution than I do.........

 

My bad.