Guys being embarrassed by the strangest things? Normal?

[Sandita]

First of all, I admit I don't understand how guys think... One recent example: I was with my boyfriend and we talked about a lot of things. One funny topic that came up was "the most embarrassing thing that has happened to you". And I like told about a time when I was small and peed in my pants and once when my neighbour saw me naked through the window... Those are pretty embarrassing things, right? You know what the most embarrassing thing that my boyfriend could think of was though?

 

He said that when he was 17 (he's 22 now) he, for some reason, challenged a girl he was kind of into at the time to a wrestling match. He didn't know it before it was too late, but apparently the girl was a black belt or something in some martial art and so of course she dropped him in like 0.5 seconds and totally owned his ass. And that was the whole story... The most embarrassing thing my boyfriend could think of in his entire life!!!

 

And I was like - yeah and so what? Apparently the girl didn't tease him or anything and no one saw it happen... So what's the big deal?? He hasn't done any martial arts and he's not like a huge quarter back type of guy either - so of course he's going to lose against a black belt! Right?

 

Apparently to my boyfriend, losing at anything anywhere to a girl is EXTREMELY embarrassing. Isn't that a little too macho? Is that normal?

[utterer of lies]

Apparently to my boyfriend, losing at anything anywhere to a girl is EXTREMELY embarrassing. Isn't that a little too macho? Is that normal?

 

It's normal, considering his age.

[Sandita]

It's normal, considering his age.

 

Sigh... well I hope he matures soon, cause I'm thinking seriously about starting to take martial arts classes too - it would be cool to know

[utterer of lies]

Sigh... well I hope he matures soon, cause I'm thinking seriously about starting to take martial arts classes too - it would be cool to know

 

Haha, do that! You go, girl!

[Sandita]

Haha, do that! You go, girl!

 

lol

u think he could get pissed about that?

of course I'll take the classes anyway... but it could be good to know it there is a risk he'll go all embarrassed and angry macho guy on me, when I tell him

[The Collector]

Maybe he couldn't think of anything much. Many guys don't really do embarrassment as you girls understand it.

 

Or he didn't feel like sharing the time he was caught parading around in grandma's clothes.

[Enema]

Probably not so much that being beaten by a woman at "anything anywhere" is embarassing.

 

Moreso that he was beaten by a woman at wrestling. Physical activity, fighting no less is generally accepted as a man thing. Women aren't supposed to be able to beat a man in that regard, even if she's had training. It would be very emasculating if it's true.

[thegoodlife]

IME, I've found that guys tend to be less embarrassed about things than women do.

[runnerz]

Ok, just had to reply to this!

Come on Sandita (and others)! Which planet have u been living on? It seems only Enema gets it.

 

It's not being beaten by a girl at "anything" that is embarassing - it's being beaten by a girl at fighting that would be humiliating to any normal man.

 

So unless your boyfriend is really thin and weak, or the girl he lost to was some huge monster on anabolics, then of course he should be totally humiliated for being owned by her!! I'm surprised he even told you about it.

 

I wouldn't let it happen to me ever, but if I had been in the same situation as your boyfriend, I would have kept my mouth shut about it.

 

A newsflash: men are physically bigger and stronger than women and therefor better fighters.

[norajane]

It's not being beaten by a girl at "anything" that is embarassing - it's being beaten by a girl at fighting that would be humiliating to any normal man.

 

I'll take it one step further - it's being beaten at fighting by a girl he's into.

 

Way to make a fool of himself with a girl he wanted to impress.

[Pink Cupcakes]

I have to agree, that would be pretty embarrassing to a guy, especially since he didn't know her martial arts background. Guys don't get embarrassed from their pants falling down in public or ripping one out accidentally during an inopportune moment.

[Art_Critic]

Apparently to my boyfriend, losing at anything anywhere to a girl is EXTREMELY embarrassing. Isn't that a little too macho? Is that normal?

 

It is akin to your neighbor seeing you naked.. IMO...

 

Some people wouldn't bat an eye of embarrassment if a neighbor saw them naked as well..(I wouldn't)

 

Try not to look down on him for being embarrassed about something that might seem trivial to you.. because honestly it might not be trivial to him..

 

The golden rule comes to mind here..

[Sandita]

Probably not so much that being beaten by a woman at "anything anywhere" is embarassing.

 

Moreso that he was beaten by a woman at wrestling. Physical activity, fighting no less is generally accepted as a man thing. Women aren't supposed to be able to beat a man in that regard, even if she's had training. It would be very emasculating if it's true.

 

Ok, I get it, it's physical activity and fighting that some guys find it embarrassing to get beaten by a woman in.

 

I have to correct you on one very important point though:

a girl who is a martial arts expert is SUPPOSED to be ABLE to beat a guy, who has no training, at wrestling/fighting.

 

In my boyfriend's case, as I said, the girl was a black belt so obviously he didn't stand a chance against her. She had a lot of training and he had none - end of story. How could that possibly be emasculating? Last time I checked he still had his penis and balls between his legs

 

If it had been ME kicking his ass today, then yes, I bet that would be embarrassing for him cause he's bigger and stronger than me. But I'm going to start taking martial arts lessons too, so...

[sally4sara]

I've never really understood how some men need or wish to believe women are incapable of besting them physically. Even if it were true that no woman alive could physically best any man alive, the man's safety would still be situational.

 

The tiniest person is capable of killing the largest person because it is all about strategy and the fact that everyone has to sleep or eat eventually. If I really want to do someone harm, I'm going to go about it however possible and not bother being fair about it.

 

I think a guy letting this bother him so much must have very little respect for women to think they're so ineffectual.

[Sandita]

Ok, just had to reply to this!

Come on Sandita (and others)! Which planet have u been living on? It seems only Enema gets it.

 

It's not being beaten by a girl at "anything" that is embarassing - it's being beaten by a girl at fighting that would be humiliating to any normal man.

 

So unless your boyfriend is really thin and weak, or the girl he lost to was some huge monster on anabolics, then of course he should be totally humiliated for being owned by her!! I'm surprised he even told you about it.

 

I wouldn't let it happen to me ever, but if I had been in the same situation as your boyfriend, I would have kept my mouth shut about it.

 

A newsflash: men are physically bigger and stronger than women and therefor better fighters.

 

 

Lol

OMG u are really "worse" than my boyfriend!

 

First, no I like guys with at least a bit of muscles, so my boyfriend is pretty strong. And the girl he wrestled, I guess, looked kind of like me (though probably not quite as cute ) so she was no monster. My avatar is not me but it could have been, if u know what I mean

 

BUT AGAIN: she had a black belt in martial arts!!! So it doesn't matter that my boyfriend was bigger and stronger than her he was always going get his butt kicked. It all depends on who has the right training and skills!

 

And also, if u are not a huge guy or have fighting training - she (or any black belt girl) would have kicked your ass too!

 

Yes men are normally much better fighters than women, but there are exceptions like if the girl has a lot of training and the guy hasn't.

[Sandita]

I'll take it one step further - it's being beaten at fighting by a girl he's into.

 

Way to make a fool of himself with a girl he wanted to impress.

 

huh - how so?

 

the only thing I see as a bit foolish is accepting to wrestle with a girl if u get all embarrassed if u lose...

[norajane]

huh - how so?

 

the only thing I see as a bit foolish is accepting to wrestle with a girl if u get all embarrassed if u lose...

 

HE felt foolish. Because he was interested in her, would have wanted to impress her, but she turned he tables on him because of her black belt.

 

I don't think he looked foolish, but in his mind, he did.

 

It's as if you made a big deal about cooking dinner for a guy you liked, and after you served your salad and spaghetti, he told you he's a 5 star chef at some fancy restaurant. You'd feel silly.

 

But the key, in my view, is that he was INTO HER. Guys never ever want to appear foolish or weak to the girls they are interested in. Logic need not apply (re: black belt).

[Enema]

 

BUT AGAIN: she had a black belt in martial arts!!! So it doesn't matter that my boyfriend was bigger and stronger than her he was always going get his butt kicked. It all depends on who has the right training and skills!

 

 

The belief that getting a black belt in "martial arts" makes you unbeatable by an untrained person that's bigger and stronger than you is a misconception.

 

If an untrained man is bigger and stronger than a "black belt" woman, 9 times out of 10 he'll still win easily.

 

I think (opinion here) that the false sense of competence McDojo's give people with "black belts" cause a lot of simple robberies to turn into assaults.

 

Take yourself, you've never even done a martial art - yet you're already supremely confident you'll be able to best a man when you get a black belt.

[redhighheels]

The belief that getting a black belt in "martial arts" makes you unbeatable by an untrained person that's bigger and stronger than you is a misconception.

 

If an untrained man is bigger and stronger than a "black belt" woman, 9 times out of 10 he'll still win easily.

 

I think (opinion here) that the false sense of competence McDojo's give people with "black belts" cause a lot of simple robberies to turn into assaults.

 

Take yourself, you've never even done a martial art - yet you're already supremely confident you'll be able to best a man when you get a black belt.

 

I strongly disagree with everything you've said.

 

Despite being physically weaker than men, women can and will take down a man who's bigger than them if they have proper training. This common misconception that women can't ever take down a man is exactly the reason women are sexually assaulted to begin with. Well, some of the men will be in for the surprise of a lifetime.

 

A lot of martial arts teach techniques that are efficient but too elaborate to be applied in real life situations, are usually used for competitions and don't allow illegal strikes. There's beauty in each style out there, but when it comes to defense and street fights you need to use strikes to vital organs.

 

Training helps for several reasons. Once you learn a technique, by practicing hundreds of times, your muscle memory increases and it becomes a reflex. The biggest part of any training is mental preparation. Again, training and practicing the moves over and over builds your confidence, and when you find yourself in a situation where you need to take down an opponent, you'll react a hell of a lot faster.

 

Even if women don't have the strengh of a man, any woman who trains for a decent period of time will learn how to throw a decent punch. I can assure you that a straight punch or an elbow strike to the neck done correctly will bring down a 300 pound man. There are also a lot of moves have nothing to do with size or strenght, just technique and physics.

 

People who do martial arts will usually use it as a last resort, so I don't buy that comment that the escalate situations by trying to be heroes.

 

My two cents, sorry for the thread hijack.

[Enema]

Everyone on the internet is a martial arts expert, so I'm not going to bother with credentials or refute you.

 

Let's just say I hope all the lurkers take on board what I've said and don't be over confident lest they get hurt.

[redhighheels]

You said:

 

If an untrained man is bigger and stronger than a "black belt" woman, 9 times out of 10 he'll still win easily.

 

We can talk theory until the cows come home, but I'm a practical kind of gal.

 

Tell you what..Why don't you make a little experiment to see how your prediction holds? I've seen your picture and you look like an average size fella.

 

Why don't you go to 10 "McDojo's" and ask for a fight with one of their female black belters, then come back and let us know how many times you won

[Enema]

Tell you what..Why don't you make a little experiment to see how your prediction holds? I've seen your picture and you look like an average size fella.

 

Why don't you go to 10 "McDojo's" and ask for a fight with one of their female black belters, then come back and let us know how many times you won

 

What a wonderfully useless post, you assume I'm talking from a position of ignorance.

 

I have many years muay thai experience under my belt after dumping McDojo tkd in my late teens. Also, i'm 5'7" and well under 200lbs. not exactly the scenario we're talking about.

 

I know fighting. A 6'3" 250lb fit guy with no training would probably hand me my ass. Size matters in reality lady, that's why they have weight classes.

[redhighheels]

What a wonderfully useless post, you assume I'm talking from a position of ignorance.

 

I have many years muay thai experience under my belt after dumping McDojo tkd in my late teens. Also, i'm 5'7" and well under 200lbs. not exactly the scenario we're talking about.

 

I know fighting. A 6'3" 250lb fit guy with no training would probably hand me my ass. Size matters in reality lady, that's why they have weight classes.

 

I guess not.

 

You seem to have a fixation with size (why am I not surprised..). I didn’t say it doesn’t matter, I said it’s just a factor in the equation, among many others. Apparently for you, it’s the only one. The implications of that would be women never beat up men, and big guys never get their ass handed out to them. That is completely absurd, even more so coming from someone with fighting experience.

 

Your statement, that women can’t beat up a man, no matter how much training they have, is not only ignorant, but highly sexist. Women don’t practice martial arts to improve their pillow-fighting techniques, they do it to be able to defend themselves against men, since roughly around 90% if not more of violent crimes are committed by men. I guess they didn’t get the memo.

 

I’ll always have a problem with people that tell me what I can and can’t do, based solely on the fact that I’m a woman. And if you honestly believe what you said, then maybe it’s time you re-evaluate your perception of the female gender...sir.

[Sandita]

The belief that getting a black belt in "martial arts" makes you unbeatable by an untrained person that's bigger and stronger than you is a misconception.

 

If an untrained man is bigger and stronger than a "black belt" woman, 9 times out of 10 he'll still win easily.

 

I think (opinion here) that the false sense of competence McDojo's give people with "black belts" cause a lot of simple robberies to turn into assaults.

 

Take yourself, you've never even done a martial art - yet you're already supremely confident you'll be able to best a man when you get a black belt.

 

Well for example it obviously worked well for the girl who beat my boyfriend at wrestling. And if I learn the same as her - why wouldn't I be able to beat him (and other guys) too?

 

If martial arts were worthless (and the bigger and stronger person always wins), why would they teach it at all?

[Enema]

If martial arts were worthless (and the bigger and stronger person always wins), why would they teach it at all?

 

That's not what I said... nice strawman.

 

Anyway.

 

You're asking why a business would inflate the effectiveness of their product? ..... Let me think about it. lol