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I don't want a man who gets in physical fights or is overly aggressive. I can also handle myself pretty well.

 

That being said a man needs the ability to protect me. A weak, scared, pansy is a huge turn off. When a man says "it's ok" or "I'll handle this" I want to know I can rely on him.

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What an idiotic thread.

 

How physically strong must I be to satisfy most of the women who post here? How is a woman going to know that I'm not strong enough for her? Is she going to take me to the gym and test how many pushups I can do or how much I can lift or check that my muscles are thick enough? :mad:

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What an idiotic thread.

 

How physically strong must I be to satisfy most of the women who post here? How is a woman going to know that I'm not strong enough for her? Is she going to take me to the gym and test how many pushups I can do or how much I can lift or check that my muscles are thick enough? :mad:

You just must be willing to die for her. When the time comes, she expects you to deliver.
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You just must be willing to die for her. When the time comes, she expects you to deliver.

I'd rather we both live than get into a silly fight. Part of this is avoiding dangerous places.

 

The best way a man can protect his family is by making sure he guides them away from danger before it escalates and by providing well enough to allow them to live in a safe place.

Well said. One of the few intelligent messages in the thread.

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What an idiotic thread.

 

How physically strong must I be to satisfy most of the women who post here? How is a woman going to know that I'm not strong enough for her? Is she going to take me to the gym and test how many pushups I can do or how much I can lift or check that my muscles are thick enough? :mad:

 

What is idiotic about woman being attracted to strong men? Like it or not physical and emotional strength are equated to masculinity. You sound bitter.

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I've put up with bullies my entire life. It's easy for people to say that walking away is the best response, but it isn't. These guys have enormous egos. By walking away, they will assume you forfeited to them and are too cowardly to stand up. In turn, they will continue to harass you, because they are now convinced you won't do anything in response.

 

I'm not trying to be the hero, but someone needs to stand up to jerks, or else they will never stop and continue to escalate their harassment.

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I agree. If it was just down to physical strength we'd all mostly be fecked. You have to have have elan backed by physical prescence, wit, sarcasm and the tenacity to throw a good right hook if necessary...bullies generally dont like being laughed at.

 

One of my favourite films is Back to the Future I love the way George McFly changed over the course of the film.|I kind of like that geeky but dont push me type of man, because it's sort of how I am - underestimated

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What is idiotic about woman being attracted to strong men? Like it or not physical and emotional strength are equated to masculinity. You sound bitter.

It is idiotic that women want a man with superhuman strength. It is even more idiotic that they call someone who gets good grades nerd or geek or in my case far worse. I've had it with all the idiocy and game playing from women. In addition there are just as many idiot males as females who do nothing but go to the gym and are as dumb as a rock.

 

I've absolutely had it with the games and the lying. I can't trust anyone anymore. I'm also tired of people younger than me thinking they know more than me just because they've been in love. I've never felt anything close to love at 35 and have no idea what it really feels like. No matter how hard I try, I come up empty. I've experienced plenty of other things though.

 

You're right. I am bitter.

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It is idiotic that women want a man with superhuman strength. It is even more idiotic that they call someone who gets good grades nerd or geek or in my case far worse. I've had it with all the idiocy and game playing from women. In addition there are just as many idiot males as females who do nothing but go to the gym and are as dumb as a rock.

 

I've absolutely had it with the games and the lying. I can't trust anyone anymore. I'm also tired of people younger than me thinking they know more than me just because they've been in love. I've never felt anything close to love at 35 and have no idea what it really feels like. No matter how hard I try, I come up empty. I've experienced plenty of other things though.

 

You're right. I am bitter.

 

I don't think anyone expects super human strength.

 

You're also wrong in thinking that intelligence and academic success aren't impressive.

 

So you have an advanced degree and great academic success, but not much going on in the muscle department. Nothing to be bitter about. You have some great strengths, be proud of them. And the physical stuff? Why not hit the gym a few times a week or take up some sort of sport. You'll feel more confident, it's fun and great for you.

 

Instead here you are saying that no one likes you because you have a doctorate in a "geeky" field. It's like you're embarrassed of what you've accomplished. You're reading these women say they value physical strength growing more bitter and pissed off at life by the minute.

 

I think you'd be so much more successful if you stopped feeling sorry for yourself and blaming others for what you feel you lack as a man.

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I don't think anyone expects super human strength.

 

You're also wrong in thinking that intelligence and academic success aren't impressive.

 

So you have an advanced degree and great academic success, but not much going on in the muscle department. Nothing to be bitter about. You have some great strengths, be proud of them. And the physical stuff? Why not hit the gym a few times a week or take up some sort of sport. You'll feel more confident, it's fun and great for you.

 

Instead here you are saying that no one likes you because you have a doctorate in a "geeky" field. It's like you're embarrassed of what you've accomplished. You're reading these women say they value physical strength growing more bitter and pissed off at life by the minute.

 

I think you'd be so much more successful if you stopped feeling sorry for yourself and blaming others for what you feel you lack as a man.

You've read me correctly and I need to think about what you wrote. Going to the gym does help. I just need to do it more. I've been rejected outright for my field, but now that I think of it, some women have seen it as a positive.

 

Anyway, if I do fall in love one of these days, I know I'd give it everything I have if I need to protect her.

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I've put up with bullies my entire life. It's easy for people to say that walking away is the best response, but it isn't. These guys have enormous egos. By walking away, they will assume you forfeited to them and are too cowardly to stand up. In turn, they will continue to harass you, because they are now convinced you won't do anything in response.

 

I'm not trying to be the hero, but someone needs to stand up to jerks, or else they will never stop and continue to escalate their harassment.

 

You sound like you're in high school or something. Bullies? Really? :rolleyes:

 

How is someone going to "continue to harass" me or "escalate their harassment" of me after I've shepherded everyone I care about out of the situation? Or do you think I should just kill them on the spot? Would that work for you?

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I'm a man and I will say this. If I get into a fight with another guy in an attempt to stand up for my girlfriend then whoever wins the fight gets to take her home & stay with her. If I lose the fight then he can have her as he deserves her.

Well, I'm only 5'7" and not athletic, and elderly, so I would almost certainly lose the physical encounter. That wouldn't stop me rushing to protect her. If she decides to go home with the big strong young guy that beat me up (while trying to defend her), then she was never my girl in the first place. She would be -- what? -- a primitive primate similar to our pre-human ancestors of hundreds of thousands of years ago? I know we are supposed to respect other people's opinions but your post counts in my mind as one of the daftest I have ever read.

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While this isn't completely on-topic, one of sexiest differences between men and women is physical strength. If displayed in a positive way, not being a man who flys off the physical handle, by a loved one, it makes some women go ga-ga, myself included. It's primal, just like it's primal when a man protects.

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While this isn't completely on-topic, one of sexiest differences between men and women is physical strength. If displayed in a positive way, not being a man who flys off the physical handle, by a loved one, it makes some women go ga-ga, myself included. It's primal, just like it's primal when a man protects.

It's easy to be macho if you are big, young, and athletic. What really counts, in my opinion, is, if you have the guts to defend someone else, when you are none of those things.

 

If you admire a man for his physique, rather than his spirit, I feel sorry for you for having your values in the wrong order.

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I don't care how small you are or wimpy. If your girl is in need of protection, yo uroll up your sleeves and protect her...it is that simple. You may get your face messed up, but she will love you that night like she has never loved you before..

I so agree with you but TrialByFire just posted that she would be incredibly turned on by the man that won the physical fight. How discouraging for all men?

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It's easy to be macho if you are big, young, and athletic. What really counts, in my opinion, is, if you have the guts to defend someone else, when you are none of those things.

 

If you admire a man for his physique, rather than his spirit, I feel sorry for you for having your values in the wrong order.

I admire a man for both. Your average man who's the identical weight and size of your average woman, will be stronger, within a reasonable age category.

 

As well, it's true, I like men who take care of their bodies, living healthy lifestyles. Since this is the way I like to live, it seems reasonable to expect the same. For that matter, my man does and is. :)

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there comes a time when you need to stop being a pansy and kick some poon-tang if need be.

 

That's vagina FYI.

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I admire a man for both. Your average man who's the identical weight and size of your average woman, will be stronger, within a reasonable age category.

 

As well, it's true, I like men who take care of their bodies, living healthy lifestyles. Since this is the way I like to live, it seems reasonable to expect the same. For that matter, my man does and is. :)

Glad you admire a man for his spirit as well as his physique, because your man, despite all his virtues, won't always be physically adequate to protect you in an ugly situation.

 

But I don't like the way this thread is focusing on the man protecting the woman. What if your man were outnumbered, outgunned, by attackers - what would you do? Would you say "I'm a weak women" and stand and watch, or run away? Or would you say that you will pitch in and defend him, however little use it may be? This is the 21st century not the stone age!

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Glad you admire a man for his spirit as well as his physique, because your man, despite all his virtues, won't always be physically adequate to protect you in an ugly situation.

 

But I don't like the way this thread is focusing on the man protecting the woman. What if your man were outnumbered, outgunned, by attackers - what would you do? Would you say "I'm a weak women" and stand and watch, or run away? Or would you say that you will pitch in and defend him, however little use it may be? This is the 21st century not the stone age!

I didn't take kick-boxing for awhile, just to stay in shape. I'm no pacifist, albeit not a scrapper either.

 

For that matter, if it came down to a life and death situation, I could kill to protect a loved one, be it gun or knife.

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It is idiotic that women want a man with superhuman strength. It is even more idiotic that they call someone who gets good grades nerd or geek or in my case far worse. I've had it with all the idiocy and game playing from women. In addition there are just as many idiot males as females who do nothing but go to the gym and are as dumb as a rock.

 

I've absolutely had it with the games and the lying. I can't trust anyone anymore. I'm also tired of people younger than me thinking they know more than me just because they've been in love. I've never felt anything close to love at 35 and have no idea what it really feels like. No matter how hard I try, I come up empty. I've experienced plenty of other things though.

 

You're right. I am bitter.

 

No don't be bitter, academic types are much preferable. I think the answers here may be biased as it's the dating part of the site and quite a few of us married peeps tend to stick to the other parts of the forum most of the time. I married the academic type for the exact reasons that they make good long term partners and I have been proven right since it has lasted 14 years and still going strong, don't worry. The stronger the protector the higher the propensity to cheat. You are at more of an advantage now since most women of your age have learned this to be the case. I quickly worked out it was better to steer clear of the over-testosteroned alpha's for a more realistic long term partner. All the other women that I know who have married one have come unstuck.

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I think this thread is focusing on if a woman was verbally called a whore or slutt by some dumb drunk....she would expect her man to step up and pound that said drunk.

I don't think violence is ever the right response to a verbal insult.

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I didn't take kick-boxing for awhile, just to stay in shape. I'm no pacifist, albeit not a scrapper either.

 

For that matter, if it came down to a life and death situation, I could kill to protect a loved one, be it gun or knife.

 

I'm aroused... is that weird?:lmao:

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This entire thread is pretty stupid - do women really want to date guys that are always getting into fights? Even the best fighter is probably going to get sucker-punched at some point if he's always getting into fights, and it will probably show on his face.

 

I think that what women really dislike is a guy who never stands up for himself and lets other people push him around without saying a word.

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I'm aroused... is that weird?:lmao:
:laugh::love:
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This entire thread is pretty stupid - do women really want to date guys that are always getting into fights? Even the best fighter is probably going to get sucker-punched at some point if he's always getting into fights, and it will probably show on his face.

 

I think that what women really dislike is a guy who never stands up for himself and lets other people push him around without saying a word.

 

It's just comforting to be with someone who has that protective side.

 

:laugh::love:

 

heh-heh-

Come on pretty girl, look at your avatar!

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