Hkizzle Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 How do you feel about the title of the thread? Whilst most people know the difference between a movie and reality, I've read opinions from many people about how UNhealthy chick flicks are to us, and especially women. It gives people a false sense of what relationships are truly like, making the ideal seem better than reality. It also doesn't correct portray intentions in the real world, where I would say half the people out there have serious character flaws regarding fidelity, not being selfish, mood problems, etc.
Jaytb Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 Chick flicks are so damned cliché it's irritating. I remember watching Moulin Rouge with my girlfriend, and I ended up dead asleep not even halfway through the movie! As guys, we want some action in our movies! When I am watching a chick flick, I am usually thinking to myself "for the love of god, somebody shoot someone!" :lmao:
Author Hkizzle Posted August 13, 2009 Author Posted August 13, 2009 Chick flicks are so damned cliché it's irritating. I remember watching Moulin Rouge with my girlfriend, and I ended up dead asleep not even halfway through the movie! As guys, we want some action in our movies! When I am watching a chick flick, I am usually thinking to myself "for the love of god, somebody shoot someone!" :lmao: Lol, yeah but that's why they're called chick flicks!
Thaddeus Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 This stuff has even been studied and the general tendency is for audiences (more specifically, female audience members) to develop an entirely unrealistic idea of what 'love' is all about. Therefore, when the reality doesn't match up with the fantasy (and it NEVER does) the relationship falls apart. See Rom-coms 'spoil your love life' From the article:"Films do capture the excitement of new relationships but they also wrongly suggest that trust and committed love exist from the moment people meet, whereas these are qualities that normally take years to develop." It even happens on this site: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2327010&postcount=13
JohnnyBlaze Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 I classify them along with most every other movie out there - fiction! As long as women realize that [insert favourite actor's name] said that deep and romantic line only after being told to by 15 writers and getting 8 takes to say it right, it's okay. But just like us guys have to realize that, contrary to every Rambo movie, M14's do NOT have a limitless supply of ammunition, girls need to know that we're not all James Bond suave, especially since we only get one take to get it right. It goes back to the old saying "we'll start acting like those guys in the trashy romance novels when you start dressing like the girls in the Victoria's Secret catalogue." Chick flicks are so damned cliché it's irritating. I remember watching Moulin Rouge with my girlfriend, and I ended up dead asleep not even halfway through the movie! As guys, we want some action in our movies! When I am watching a chick flick, I am usually thinking to myself "for the love of god, somebody shoot someone!" :lmao: And that's what made Titanic so perfect. It had something for everyone! Women: an upper-class woman takes a trip with a fiancé that she doesn't truly love. While on the trip, she finds her true love in the form of a scruffy boy from the poor side of town. They have a passionate whirlwind romance (including the famous scene on the bow), the new boyfriend and the fiancé fight, and she ultimately has to rescue him from being stuck in the brig as the ship sinks. It has laughs, tears, ooh's, aww's, steamy love scenes, beautiful jewelry, a lovely ballroom scene, and fantastic dresses - everything a woman could want in a movie. Men: DiCaprio dies. 'nuff said.
xpaperxcutx Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 Oh come on, chick flicks aren't that bad. They make me feel all gushy at the end. Sure, they're pretty unrealistic, but that's the point of movies, to pay out fantasies. Now imagine watching an action film with less than perfect CGI effects. How many times do we need to things getting blown up? P.S. JayTB, how could you have fallen asleep to Moulin Rouge? I absolutely love Ewan McGregor in that movie.
HeadlessZebra Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 I think Disney movies ruined me. Prince Eric spending all his days sitting by the sea waiting to hear Ariel's song... Prince Phillip fighting Maleficent-as-dragon to save Aurora Prince Charming waltzing with Cinderella under the moonlight though he didn't even know her name... And the sad thing is I really truly do believe in my heart of hearts that this kind of love can exist...
Devil Inside Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 I agree that movies, television, and music can all paint very unrealistic views of what love is and should be. Sure. However, many people enjoy these forms of art, and want to be distracted. Want to fantasize. Want to see what something different from there life could be. I recently saw 500 Days of Summer. Initially I though..."oh man, chick flick...let me tell you what happens...etc..." But, to it's credit, it is a really good movie. Not a love story but a relationship story. Basically about how our perceptions of a relationship and the reality of what is happening can be so different between the two people involved.
Kamille Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 What???!!! There is a difference between media and reality? You mean Rambo doesn't exists? Or that not every man is an oaf like Homer Simpson??? ps: I resent the implication that women aren't properly equipped to distinguish between movies and reality.
JohnnyBlaze Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 What???!!! There is a difference between media and reality? You mean Rambo doesn't exists? Or that not every man is an oaf like Homer Simpson??? ps: I resent the implication that women aren't properly equipped to distinguish between movies and reality. I didn't say that women aren't "properly equipped" and wasn't even trying to imply it. They're just as ill-equipped as men are in that regard. The exact same theory applies to all the threads around here complaining that men expect their wife/gf to act like the chick in the porn movie. Most men recognize that porn stars aren't 'real' but some don't make that distinction. Same thing goes for women and chick flicks. Most get it, some don't.
Jaytb Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 P.S. JayTB, how could you have fallen asleep to Moulin Rouge? I absolutely love Ewan McGregor in that movie. well gee, of course hearthrob Ewan McGregor should have kept me up! What a dream he is /sarcasm Now imagine watching an action film with less than perfect CGI effects. How many times do we need to things getting blown up? Precisely why I stay away from anything Michael Bay:lmao:
fral945 Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 The exact same theory applies to all the threads around here complaining that men expect their wife/gf to act like the chick in the porn movie. Most men recognize that porn stars aren't 'real' but some don't make that distinction. Same thing goes for women and chick flicks. Most get it, some don't. Agreed. Chick flicks to women are analogous to porn for men. They both appeal to each sex's deepest and strongest desires. If a women wants and expects everything they see in these chick flicks, then they shouldn't be surprised if a man expects everything they see in porn flicks. Neither one is realistic, of course, so as long as neither sex gets too distorted a view things should be ok.
Jaytb Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 Men: DiCaprio dies. 'nuff said. That's all I need. (Me watching Titanic: stupid Rose! he would have survived if you stayed on that lifeboat! You could have had it all if you weren't so stupid!)
Kamille Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 Agreed. Chick flicks to women are analogous to porn for men. They both appeal to each sex's deepest and strongest desires. If a women wants and expects everything they see in these chick flicks, then they shouldn't be surprised if a man expects everything they see in porn flicks. Neither one is realistic, of course, so as long as neither sex gets too distorted a view things should be ok. Fair enough and then vice versa: if a man expects everything he sees in a porn, then he should also be able to provide heavy doses of passion and romance. Neither one is realistic but to each his/her own. There is plenty of humans on this planet. I for one have never had trouble meeting men who's expectations matched mine.
Saxis Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 What???!!! There is a difference between media and reality? You mean Rambo doesn't exists? Or that not every man is an oaf like Homer Simpson??? ps: I resent the implication that women aren't properly equipped to distinguish between movies and reality. I'll agree with you there, but also HeadlessZebra. You must not be a parent, or at least one that buys into fantasy. Have you ever seen the effect this crap has on a child? My X has poured everything "Disney Princess" into our daughter's life from the time of birth. She's 5 years old now. Ask her what she wants to be for Halloween. You might think her response is just fun, but then ask her if she's excited to start school. Ask her what she wants to be when she grows up. "Princesses don't need to!", is her reply. Why do we set our children up to fail? I guess it provides a learning experience, if not a harsh way to go about it. I cringe at the thought of her disappointment when she realizes life isn't perfect. People are impressionable. We grab onto things and attempt to hold on. Whether a movie or two will completely influence someone is absurd, but it happens. This goes WAY beyond women and chick flicks. Men are equally guilty. Look at porn for example... You really think it's created as just a tool, a means to reach an end? Look at the following Hollywood has... Some people are good at distinguishing, many are not. If you resent or deny that I think you're generalizing too much; everyone is an individual. Or you're taking it as a personal attack, or maybe you're holding on to your own fantasy; that people just don't fall under delusions of grandeur. Edit: I see most of my points were already addressed. That's what I get for getting distracted in the middle of a post. Also, sorry if I sound harsh. Watching my daughter grow has really brought this type of thing to my attention.
EddieN Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 I know many girls who treat Cosmo and Sex and the City like their Bible. They apply every little thing to real life. It makes things 1000x more difficult and confusing for guys.
fral945 Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 Fair enough and then vice versa: if a man expects everything he sees in a porn, then he should also be able to provide heavy doses of passion and romance. Neither one is realistic but to each his/her own. There is plenty of humans on this planet. I for one have never had trouble meeting men who's expectations matched mine. Sounds fair to me. I, unfortunately, do have a problem finding that.
EddieN Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 I'll agree with you there, but also HeadlessZebra. You must not be a parent, or at least one that buys into fantasy. Have you ever seen the effect this crap has on a child? My X has poured everything "Disney Princess" into our daughter's life from the time of birth. She's 5 years old now. Ask her what she wants to be for Halloween. You might think her response is just fun, but then ask her if she's excited to start school. Ask her what she wants to be when she grows up. "Princesses don't need to!", is her reply. Why do we set our children up to fail? I guess it provides a learning experience, if not a harsh way to go about it. I cringe at the thought of her disappointment when she realizes life isn't perfect. But that's just being a kid. When I was 5 I was under the impression that I was really an alien and sooner or later my alien superpowers would kick in. Just because I never became a superpowered alien doesn't mean I was set up to fail. Kids have wild imaginations - let them have fun while they're still young. I've heard some people say that they told their kid right from the beginning that Santa Claus didn't exist. That's so dull for the kid. Sure, when I found out Santa didn't exist I was a bit disappointed and sad, but the years before that I had so much fun with the whole concept, as any kid does. Let them live their dreams a bit before they find out the realoty of the world.
Saxis Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 But that's just being a kid. When I was 5 I was under the impression that I was really an alien and sooner or later my alien superpowers would kick in. Just because I never became a superpowered alien doesn't mean I was set up to fail. Kids have wild imaginations - let them have fun while they're still young. I've heard some people say that they told their kid right from the beginning that Santa Claus didn't exist. That's so dull for the kid. Sure, when I found out Santa didn't exist I was a bit disappointed and sad, but the years before that I had so much fun with the whole concept, as any kid does. Let them live their dreams a bit before they find out the realoty of the world. It's more like providing them an imagination, otherwise known as brainwashing. Did your parents continuously tell you from time of birth that you were an alien with superpowers? I don't mind my child having dreams and fantasies. I just wish she had her own dreams and fantasies. That's real imagination! ( Does that exist?) Edit: Also, I don't classify Santa Clause as imaginative. The person, pretty much, but he is more a representative of an idea: the gift of giving.
EddieN Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 Ok, I see what you're saying. My sister kind of pushes the whole Disney princess thing on her daughters as well. I mean, that's generally what little girls like, but mostly because they're told they should like that.
Woggle Posted August 13, 2009 Posted August 13, 2009 The sad fact is that too many women actually try to apply this to real life and become very resentful when a man isn't like the men in the movies.
New Again Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 How do you feel about the title of the thread? Whilst most people know the difference between a movie and reality, I've read opinions from many people about how UNhealthy chick flicks are to us, and especially women. It gives people a false sense of what relationships are truly like, making the ideal seem better than reality. It also doesn't correct portray intentions in the real world, where I would say half the people out there have serious character flaws regarding fidelity, not being selfish, mood problems, etc. Agree. But add romance novels to the list.
HeadlessZebra Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 Agree. But add romance novels to the list. HAH! Good thing I don't read that drivel. Disney f*cked me up enough as it is.
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