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I was watching this movie the other day with a girl, and she was crying and saying how great the movie was.

 

I then pointed out that the girl in the movie actually cheated on her fiance, and in fact come to think of it a lot of chick flicks portray cheating on an existing partner.

 

Yet because of the way the movie is packaged, no one actually notices the cheating, and focus on the new romance.

 

Overlapping relationships happen a lot, they tend to be viewed slightly differently from manipulative forms of cheating, how do you view this?

 

Btw, this is not a pro-cheating, advocating cheating, justifying cheating thread. There are stupid people in this world that can't differentiate the difference between intelligent debate, and not judging people that cheat from supporting cheating.

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I seen that movie also and I did notice that she cheated on her fiance, and even though she had a past and connection with the guy that she cheated with, I still feel like its wrong. What difference does it make what she felt for him, she was committed to someone else and should have dealt with him first. However since it is a movie and everyone watching it hopes that she will get back with the first guy no one pay attention to the cheating,it seems insignificant because of the love and connection the first guy and her feel for each other.

 

With that in mind sometime people in real life get caught up like that, they end up seeing their ex whom they were in love with and felt they were their soul mate, and don’t want to pass up that chance. Even though they might be in a relationship they feel like if they don’t act on it right then and there the opportunity will never come up again.

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It's hollywood glamming over the fact that she cheated.

Look at Titanic - viewed as a great romance. Yes, her fiance seemed like a jerk, but did that excuse her for cheating on him with little leo?

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The ending of the Notebook was lame (when she went back to him), but it's a chick flick, so I really have no say in the matter. LOL

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It's hollywood glamming over the fact that she cheated.

Look at Titanic - viewed as a great romance. Yes, her fiance seemed like a jerk, but did that excuse her for cheating on him with little leo?

 

Yeah good point, in fact that's an even more famous one.

 

Interesting there's so much cheating in romance movies but no one really notices.

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I read the book (yawn).

 

But yes, I definitely notice how "glossed over" cheating is portrayed in movies. Especially when it's the woman cheating. It's packaged in a way that's almost sentimental? And the cheating is merely a means of "finding oneself". Pretty lame if you ask me.

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I don't watch lame chick flicks like titanic and notebook...the "plots" are terrible..

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I read the book (yawn).

 

But yes, I definitely notice how "glossed over" cheating is portrayed in movies. Especially when it's the woman cheating. It's packaged in a way that's almost sentimental? And the cheating is merely a means of "finding oneself". Pretty lame if you ask me.

 

Yeah shows many things you do in life isn't about whether it's good or not, but in the packaging.

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Yes it was cheating although the better way of looking at it is the mother lied to her and didn't give her any of his letters and she had always been in love with him

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I really liked this movie but was uncomfortable with the cheating aspect, too. However, I think it's a part of the movie's storyline intentionally to show how these two people were so compelled to be together. It was a force neither could resist.

 

It happens.

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I really liked this movie but was uncomfortable with the cheating aspect, too. However, I think it's a part of the movie's storyline intentionally to show how these two people were so compelled to be together. It was a force neither could resist.

 

It happens.

 

I know it was part of the story line because it built the tension... I mean obviously they could have done something else to build tension but then maybe it would have appealed to a differetn audience

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I know it was part of the story line because it built the tension... I mean obviously they could have done something else to build tension but then maybe it would have appealed to a differetn audience

 

I think it was a choice she made. She chose true love above money, status, security, etc. If the fiance had been poor and struggling and she cheated with a wealthy guy it wouldn't have been as romantic.

 

It appeals to our sense of wanting to believe that love conquers all. The culmination of their struggle to be together probably had to revolve around sex since their relationship was SO heated.

 

Drama is conflict. If there's no conflict there's no dramatic story. If she had seen him and said, ya know, I think I'd rather be with you, let me break up with the fiance and after a period of time you and I can date.... would that have been dramatic?

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Also, by that point we were invested in the characters. And we also knew they end up together forever. So I think we're more likely to forgive their indiscretion.

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Also, by that point we were invested in the characters. And we also knew they end up together forever. So I think we're more likely to forgive their indiscretion.

 

Yeah that's a funny thing. If you meet couples, especially married ones for a long time, and you know they cheated to get together. The cheating seems to matter less when you see they are now happily together.

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Yeah that's a funny thing. If you meet couples, especially married ones for a long time, and you know they cheated to get together. The cheating seems to matter less when you see they are now happily together.

 

I think the kind of cheating that happens matters to, I mean its not like she had a long secret afair got pregnant and then came clean... I didn't put much thought into this but its also just the way alot of movie romances are... Footloose, Top Gun, The OC for christ sakes just to name a few... entertainment doesn't always involve a love story of too plain old hapily maried people if its suposed to be entertaining.. I mean I don't think there was cheating in Romeo and Juliet ... but shakespear did put in Murder and Suicide so maybe some risky relationships is better I don't know

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I think it is a double standard that still exists. When men cheat, they are lying scum bags who gave in to temptation. When women cheat, it is because they are not emotionally fulfilled and find true love from another man. You see it all the time. Why don't we just call cheating what it actually is- a complete betrayal of trust.

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I think it was a choice she made. She chose true love above money, status, security, etc. If the fiance had been poor and struggling and she cheated with a wealthy guy it wouldn't have been as romantic.

 

Not as romantic, but definitely more realistic.

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Revolutionary Road was like that; except both the H and W cheated on each other. It actually pissed me off because it seemed like the writers made it an insignificant part of the plot; as if its a normal part of married life. Horrible movie BTW. Couple gets married, they end up miserable and die. The End. Real heart-warming LMAO!

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I guess it just illuminated how much she loved Noah. After all those years, and being with a brilliant man (who fits her perfectly) couldn't match up to being with the one person she loves. It also showed how it could be possible to love two different people at the same time, she did love Lon, but in a completely different way to the way she loved Noah, because when she was with Lon she was one person (and this was shown when they were together) and when she was with Noah,she was someone else completely. It was a choice about who she would rather be, as well as who she would rather be with. It didn't happen in the best of ways, but it's put in for dramatic effect.

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Revolutionary Road was like that; except both the H and W cheated on each other. It actually pissed me off because it seemed like the writers made it an insignificant part of the plot; as if its a normal part of married life. Horrible movie BTW. Couple gets married, they end up miserable and die. The End. Real heart-warming LMAO!

 

Thanks for the warning there! I almost ordered that on PPV the other weekend. :)

 

As for the movie at hand, yeah, I thought it was $hitty that she cheated. But thankfully it is fiction. Also, what I really liked most about the movie was their romance as teenagers, I liked the setting, the music, the era...those aspects of the movie were what I liked best and why I called it a good movie.

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Yeah that's a funny thing. If you meet couples, especially married ones for a long time, and you know they cheated to get together. The cheating seems to matter less when you see they are now happily together.

 

Oh, but dont they all seem happy at first...at least until they get the itch again?;)

 

I know couples of the kind you speak. their cheating doesn't matter less to me and they aren't people I wish to associate with. Current lady friend I'm seeing wasn't fond of the ways of this one couple, but then wanted us to meet up with them one night. Told her I had no interest in pretending to like them.

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Hk, you have to expect something like this from Hollywood. After all how many LTR'S are there in "Tinseltown",? Entertainment people change partners faster than warp speed.;)

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Never quite understand the big deal about The Notebook. Yeah, it was okay but it was pretty boring along the way.

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