LordMalkor Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 I was abused since a small kid. I can't afford to make plastic surgery. Parents consider this sinful or idiotic. I am going away from home forever due to a new workplace. However, I wont earn enough for plastic surgery, not in several years at least. And to do this at 40, it will hurt my ego badly for not having any women. I am thinking that life has no meaning since I cannot get a good women as a companion. I have two options, either steal the money somehow for plastic surgery, or retreat to a monastery. Any ideas on the matter? And please no "looks don't matter" because it's a lie. Here's the pic : http://tinyurl.com/lcele3 http://tinyurl.com/knx8bn
Athena Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Hi -- so how old are you now? What kind of plastic surgery did you want? What kind of abuse did you suffer? Before you go the drastic route of plastic surgery, you need to make ALL the changes you CAN make on your own. Have you done this? Do you eat right? Exercise? Educate your mind. Build a career. Work on your social skills. Practice your humor. See a counselor. Be well read... read news magazines, newspapers, etc... WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW?
Author LordMalkor Posted July 31, 2009 Author Posted July 31, 2009 Hi -- so how old are you now? What kind of plastic surgery did you want? What kind of abuse did you suffer? Before you go the drastic route of plastic surgery, you need to make ALL the changes you CAN make on your own. Have you done this? Do you eat right? Exercise? Educate your mind. Build a career. Work on your social skills. Practice your humor. See a counselor. Be well read... read news magazines, newspapers, etc... WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW? Hello I am 25 years old. I am currently studying life sciences and genetics in a european country. Abuse ... violence since an early age. Plastic surgery, my face. I eat right, and I exercise right. I cannot grow any fat due to an unsolvable tyroid problem (I guess god had fun by bringing me into this world near Cernobal. Hell, even I laugh about it). I am very educated, I can speak 3 foreign languages. I read magazine, newspapers, etc. It is a drastic measure, however, this does not matter in women. First thing when you go somewhere, they look at how you look. A realtionship can never be without looks ... I've had tons of experience and rejection in this area. Right now? Talking to you!
Athena Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 By the way, for what it's worth... about your photo... shave your 'mustache' (be completely clean shaven), go have a professional shaping done on your eyebrows -- either waxing (temporary), electrolysis, or laser hair removal... just be sure to not pluck or wax completely straight on the inner corners, that is, leave one or two hairs out... natural looking... a professional will do that. You need to grow your hair out and go to a really good hair stylist who will do something with it to suit your face. Lastly -- you really need to do professional counseling... and take up a new and interesting hobby so you can gain enjoyment and happiness in your spare time and for that to SHINE in your face! Because right now, my dear, your face is SAD and unattractive... your insides need to be made Beautiful before you pay to have your outsides 'fixed'. As a previous poster who had a fake eye said her plastic surgeon told her there are three categories of attractiveness: Beautiful, average, and ugly. I think you fall into the middle one, but verge on feeling (and therefore showing) uglier than you are, because of what you are THINKING (it SHOWS on your face!). So -- my advice once again, is Work On What You Can. For now.
Athena Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Hello I am 25 years old. I am currently studying life sciences and genetics in a european country. Abuse ... violence since an early age. Plastic surgery, my face. I eat right, and I exercise right. I cannot grow any fat due to an unsolvable tyroid problem (I guess god had fun by bringing me into this world near Cernobal. Hell, even I laugh about it). I am very educated, I can speak 3 foreign languages. I read magazine, newspapers, etc. It is a drastic measure, however, this does not matter in women. First thing when you go somewhere, they look at how you look. A realtionship can never be without looks ... I've had tons of experience and rejection in this area. Right now? Talking to you! Hmm, you have quite a lot going for you. So work with what you have... BTW, was it your parents who beat you? What specific plastic surgery did you want done on your face?
Author LordMalkor Posted July 31, 2009 Author Posted July 31, 2009 Hmm, you have quite a lot going for you. So work with what you have... BTW, was it your parents who beat you? What specific plastic surgery did you want done on your face? Yes, parents aboused me ... kind of insane. Fueled anger dropped on me. Work with what I have? I had almost all rejections and denials non stop. And they told me it's because i am ugly. I wont stand that anymore. Someone told me the magic wanes after 30's. It is not as intense as it is, love, feeling and lovemaking. So if I pass that limit, i'd never forgive myself. I seriously consider retiring to a monastery after I get my genetics bacheleor degree. About plastic surgery ... well, one that makes my face more beautifull obviously.
tinktronik Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 I would agree. Your not deformed looking or anything. I would say average. Do some upkeep as suggested and wear attractive clothing.
Author LordMalkor Posted July 31, 2009 Author Posted July 31, 2009 I would agree. Your not deformed looking or anything. I would say average. Do some upkeep as suggested and wear attractive clothing. Well, the pics were rapidly taken on an evil webcam. I'll snap one tomorrow with my profi camera. I do have a hobby btw. Athena, it's photography.
Athena Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 And check out this poster: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t192628/ let me know what you think of the original poster there... ********* WHAT specifically do YOU want to have done to your face?! Your face is okay, your nose is normal, your lips... your eyes-- do not look together (is your vision okay?) What are your TEETH like?! I have read that people looking to judge attractiveness First look at Eyes, then teeth, then hair. If you fix up your eyebrows that could help with your eyes. You definitely need to do something with your hair!!!!!!!!!!! Check out this guys hair: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2287138#post2287138
Athena Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Originally Posted by tinktronik View Post I would agree. Your not deformed looking or anything. I would say average. Do some upkeep as suggested and wear attractive clothing. Well, the pics were rapidly taken on an evil webcam. I'll snap one tomorrow with my profi camera. I do have a hobby btw. Athena, it's photography. LM, you need to do All that you CAN NOW to be more attractive -- not only to 'look more attractive', but for you to Feel more attractive... therefore, I agree with tinktronik to wear more attractive clothes, etc etc and my word of advice is that women find Confidence in a man VERY attractive -- for sure, that is what you need to work on. How will you do this?
Author LordMalkor Posted July 31, 2009 Author Posted July 31, 2009 And check out this poster: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t192628/ let me know what you think of the original poster there... ********* WHAT specifically do YOU want to have done to your face?! Your face is okay, your nose is normal, your lips... your eyes-- do not look together (is your vision okay?) What are your TEETH like?! I have read that people looking to judge attractiveness First look at Eyes, then teeth, then hair. If you fix up your eyebrows that could help with your eyes. You definitely need to do something with your hair!!!!!!!!!!! Check out this guys hair: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2287138#post2287138 The original poster is absolutely gorgeous ... why is she worrying at all? She is very hot! My teeh are fine, absolutely fine. White, porcelain and well taken care of. Yeah, my hair, I am letting it grow. I was thinking of a bob haircut. About my eyes, yes, a small disfunctional eye, can't "repair" it. Confidence? Maybe a new set of clothes, getting rid of my moustache, letting my hair grow. But confindence isent all. Many told me my features "dont add up together". Like my cheeks, to shallow, skinny.
Athena Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Am I so ugly that I can never marry? Are you parents "ugly" in your opinion? Did they not marry? ... Why do you doubt your ability to attract a mate? Is it only because you have been rejected so far? Are you rejected ONLY because of what you consider your facial problems? Do you have compassion for others? Are you kind? Do you have a sense of humor? Are you happy? If not -- right there is where you need to start your work at changing... not the plastic surgery as a 'first step'... Do you hear what I am saying? Will you be implementing any of the changes I suggested? Or are you one of these people who idly sits around "wishing" they could "change" IF they had lots of money... Come on, you know you can make improvements, right? Are you gonna?
shadowplay Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Stop sugarcoating, guys. I'm not surprised that the OP has had great difficulty finding a girlfriend. I wouldn't call him ugly, but he appears to have some kind of deformity, which is in line with what he said. Most women will reject a guy simply for this reason. How many of you can honestly say you would give a guy a chance who had a facial deformity? There are some women out there who see past the surface. OP, I think your best bet is to meet women online, where you can impress them with your intelligence first. I just saw an episode of "This American Life" about a guy who is so disabled that he can't even feed himself or talk without the aid of a computer generated voice. He found an appealing girlfriend online who was intelligent and surprisingly un-weird. This guy was obviously much less desirable than you are.
Author LordMalkor Posted July 31, 2009 Author Posted July 31, 2009 Are you parents "ugly" in your opinion? Did they not marry? ... Why do you doubt your ability to attract a mate? Is it only because you have been rejected so far? Are you rejected ONLY because of what you consider your facial problems? Do you have compassion for others? Are you kind? Do you have a sense of humor? Are you happy? If not -- right there is where you need to start your work at changing... not the plastic surgery as a 'first step'... Do you hear what I am saying? Will you be implementing any of the changes I suggested? Or are you one of these people who idly sits around "wishing" they could "change" IF they had lots of money... Come on, you know you can make improvements, right? Are you gonna? My father and mother were not ugly. Yeah that did, there were other times. In these day and age, beauty goes hand in hand with beauty. It's the norm ... thanks to media and other stuff. I am rejected beacause of my skinny nature and my face. I have an "eerie" appearence. I can't take care of my skinny nature. It's a tyroid problem. Yes, I have compassion for others. I seldom show it though. Happy? No, not really. My sense of humour is fantastic though, but on the "piercing" side. Alas, it does not matter. I found it out. I dont know where you are from, but here in romania, nope. I know I can make improvements, and I will take your advice. I hope it will work! I have nothing to loose.
Author LordMalkor Posted July 31, 2009 Author Posted July 31, 2009 Stop sugarcoating, guys. I'm not surprised that the OP has had great difficulty finding a girlfriend. I wouldn't call him ugly, but he appears to have some kind of deformity, which is in line with what he said. Most women will reject a guy simply for this reason. How many of you can honestly say you would give a guy a chance who had a facial deformity? There are some women out there who see past the surface. OP, I think your best bet is to meet women online, where you can impress them with your intelligence first. I just saw an episode of "This American Life" about a guy who is so disabled that he can't even feed himself or talk without the aid of a computer generated voice. He found an appealing girlfriend online who was intelligent and surprisingly un-weird. This guy was obviously much less desirable than you are. I did that. She was in seventh heaven. Everything crumbled when I gave her the pictures ... A women surprised by my intelligence will hardly make herself wet when comparing pictures ...
Athena Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Many told me my features "dont add up together". Like my cheeks, to shallow, skinny. Firstly, I don't see where your cheeks are too 'shallow', however if you really believe that... there is a relatively cheap procedure with 'fillers' that can plump up any area of your face... Why not go visit a plastic surgeon for an initial consultation? See what they say? From there you can figure out if that is truly the way you want to go...
shadowplay Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 I did that. She was in seventh heaven. Everything crumbled when I gave her the pictures ... Aw, that sucks. Well, keep trying. Broaden your online search. Look for more forums where you might meet women. Treat it like a science project. Remove your emotions. Eventually you'll find a girl, but you have to desensitize yourself to rejection. See the problem is it sounds like you give up too easily. You shouldn't have let that one girl's rejection stop you from finding other women online.
Athena Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 The original poster is absolutely gorgeous ... why is she worrying at all? She is very hot! You see?! And she said no one was looking at her!!! Anyway... did you check out the other link I gave you, to see how the guy had his hair styled? I mean, if you have unusual features (shape of forehead?) then perhaps doing something with your hair will in a way complement it... if you see what I mean?
norajane Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 I can't take care of my skinny nature. It's a tyroid problem. You can lift weights and grow muscle mass. Eat lots of protein and learn the proper body building routines to build muscles.
Author LordMalkor Posted July 31, 2009 Author Posted July 31, 2009 Aw, that sucks. Well, keep trying. Broaden your online search. Look for more forums where you might meet women. Treat it like a science project. Remove your emotions. Eventually you'll find a girl, but you have to desensitize yourself to rejection. See the problem is it sounds like you give up too easily. You shouldn't have let that one girl's rejection stop you from finding other women online. I tried 15 so far ... sure, maybe I have to high of an expectation?
Athena Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 I did that. She was in seventh heaven. Everything crumbled when I gave her the pictures ... A women surprised by my intelligence will hardly make herself wet when comparing pictures ... Yeah but first on Many women's list is Intelligence... perhaps you will meet someone at your new place of work... and if a nice woman gets to know you as a respected colleague, perhaps she will get to know you without having to judge you on your looks as 'date material'... LOTS of people get married, and they are not all 'hot'... You simply have to work on improving what you have. And showcasing your good points -- like your sense of humor and your intelligence, etc. As for your eye, check out Gary Null "The complete Encyclopedia of Natural Healing" specifically he gives eye exercises that change the eye... if you cannot get hold of it, I will scan the page and PM it to you when you get enough posts to get private messaging privileges.
Author LordMalkor Posted July 31, 2009 Author Posted July 31, 2009 You see?! And she said no one was looking at her!!! Anyway... did you check out the other link I gave you, to see how the guy had his hair styled? I mean, if you have unusual features (shape of forehead?) then perhaps doing something with your hair will in a way complement it... if you see what I mean? Yes, I know what you mean, work with what I have. My forehead's fine ... It's my long face, my cheaks. Yeah, I saw his hair! Looked good on him. The women you showed is really beautifull, large beautifull smile, did not even noticed her eye asimetry. She looked stunny with her smile in the first photo. Heh ... hope I will marry similar
Athena Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Which country are you moving to for your new job? Perhaps things will be different there. You might wish to take opportunity of this upcoming Change in your life to present the Who You Are slightly differently ... that is, start showing yourself to be an attractive, healthy, confident man in your new place of work... leave behind the insecurities, rejections, childhood abuse, etc... give off a positive aura... that is far more attractive than strictly good looks but nothing else like a passionate personality, being sociable etc.
shadowplay Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 The original poster is absolutely gorgeous ... why is she worrying at all? She is very hot! My teeh are fine, absolutely fine. White, porcelain and well taken care of. Yeah, my hair, I am letting it grow. I was thinking of a bob haircut. About my eyes, yes, a small disfunctional eye, can't "repair" it. Confidence? Maybe a new set of clothes, getting rid of my moustache, letting my hair grow. But confindence isent all. Many told me my features "dont add up together". Like my cheeks, to shallow, skinny. I used to advise people who were seeking plastic surgery. I have a good eye and have read many medical journals on different procedures. Maybe I can offer you a little free advice on your face. I think the problem is your forehead is too protrusive in comparison to the lower two thirds of your face. In terms of plastic surgery, you'd need some bone work to correct the problem. Fillers is really barking up the wrong tree. Your best bet would probably be to see a facial-maxillo surgeon. I'm guessing he would bring your upper and lower jaw forward through orthognathic surgery, which would bring your nose forward and fill out your lower face, put implants over your cheekbones and remove excess bone from your forehead. It's also possible to move the cheekbones forward, but that's a more invasive procedure. Depends on the case and how severe. I would go abroad. You don't want to have this done in Russia.
You'reasian Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 I was abused since a small kid. I can't afford to make plastic surgery. Parents consider this sinful or idiotic. I am going away from home forever due to a new workplace. However, I wont earn enough for plastic surgery, not in several years at least. And to do this at 40, it will hurt my ego badly for not having any women. I am thinking that life has no meaning since I cannot get a good women as a companion. I have two options, either steal the money somehow for plastic surgery, or retreat to a monastery. Any ideas on the matter? And please no "looks don't matter" because it's a lie. Here's the pic : http://tinyurl.com/lcele3 http://tinyurl.com/knx8bn I'd say you're quite good at photoshop.
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