donnamaybe Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 "2sure, I cant be wandering around the house if you're going to try to kill me. It just doesnt seem right." What an understatement! I have to say, though, that I've seen women who think they can hit guys BECAUSE they're a woman and they can't get hit back. I know that isn't related to the situation in the OP of this thread, though. And I also agree with the rest who say dump the cheating, abusive jackass.
Thomas X Forever Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 I have to say, though, that I've seen women who think they can hit guys BECAUSE they're a woman and they can't get hit back. Those are the girls who deserve to be hit.
Thaddeus Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Those are the girls who deserve to be hit.Ummm... you might want to re-phrase that. Who deserves physical abuse?
Thomas X Forever Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Who deserves abuse? I want to say the physical abusers, so they learn their lesson. But alas, the Gandi quote "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" comes ringing... But to him, I say, No Gandi, an eye for an eye makes the world half blind. You still have an eye left.
Lizzie60 Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Who deserves abuse? I want to say the physical abusers, so they learn their lesson. But alas, the Gandi quote "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" comes ringing... But to him, I say, No Gandi, an eye for an eye makes the world half blind. You still have an eye left. but you only got two chances at it.. in your whole life..
tanbark813 Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 I have to say, though, that I've seen women who think they can hit guys BECAUSE they're a woman and they can't get hit back. This is true. Don't hit someone you don't want hitting you back. Guys have to learn this early on, many times the hard way. I don't know why women should be excepted from the same rule or lesson.
Art_Critic Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Guys have to learn this early on, many times the hard way. As early as 3-5 years of age, and if not then as soon as the playground comes in to effect...
lorilynne Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Seems silly this convo has gone on this long. Is this hypothetical? Did it really happen? Girl hits guy, guy can hit back. We can all drop our jaw and say a man should NEVER hit a woman but come on, we are now expecting people to be beaten and just walk away? Yes, he cheated and he was wrong but if you select hitting him as punishment, expect to get hit back. Next time, dump him. Hurts your hand less, hurts your face less(when he hits you back), hurts your criminal record less(yes, women go to jail for battery, too!)
2sure Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Just a thought: When a woman gets hysterical, angry, acting crazy, even hits - driven to it or not.. and she gets hit by a Man ..and then afterward comes to her senses, calms down, and says to herself its ok , she deserved it... Its the first step to accepting and feeling like she deserves the hit that comes from the next guy. Sometimes this cycle starts in childhood. In fact, a woman who has been previously hit or beat is probably more likely to push people to the limit. Somehow, she doesnt stop until she gets the results that her anger has always led to. Dont hit.
lorilynne Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 I'm a teacher and I can guarantee you that if a girl hits a boy...she goes to the office. If a boy hits a girl...he goes to the office. I don't pull the kids aside and explain to them that it's ok for little Cindy to hit John, but not for John to hit little Cindy. Hitting not o.k. no matter what your anatomy. It's just as unhealthy for a male to believe that he can be hit by a woman just because society says so. Do I think a man should hit a woman? No, I don't think two adults in a relationship should hit eachother at all.
hoping2heal Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 No, no - he didnt actually go out the window. After a week though, as remorseful and deserving as he felt he told me: "2sure, I cant be wandering around the house if you're going to try to kill me. It just doesnt seem right." I'm sorry but this is the funniest thing I have ever read in my life.
sally4sara Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 My son is 11. There was an incident where a girl at his school was being violent with her classmates; usually boys. He came home one day sporting a pretty bad scrape on his shin. I asked him what happened and he told me a girl had kicked him after she had repeatedly screamed in his ear and he told her to stop. I asked what he did when it happened and he said he ignored it. Thinking the girl in question was one of the kinderkids he helps to their buses, I let it drop. Two days later it was a nasty and scabbed up. A proper black and blue had bloomed over most of his lower leg. I asked him how a kindergartner had accomplished such a battle wound and he let me know it was the new girl at his stop in the mornings; she had a new sitter who lived in our area. "Boy, she hits you again and the basic defense rule apply. You will get in trouble at school, but not with me if you gave her fair warning of what happens if she hits or kicks you again after you tell her to stop." "But mom! She is a girl and I'm not suppose to hit girls." "No, you're not suppose to hit people smaller than you. That girl is three heads taller than you right now! But that won't last so she might as well learn that lesson now." I know it is a general rule to teach your kids not to hit, and to tell your boys to not hit girls..... Unfortunately this won't help them when they meet up with a bully. And sometimes the bully is a girl. I know a few guys from my teens who changed their minds about hitting girls after a run in with me. A fist to the throat and a boot to the head has that effect. If they had managed to get back up (or took me seriously before my attack) and hit me back, I'd have full well deserved it!
tanbark813 Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 One time in preschool a girl knocked over my blocks and I punched her in the chest (it was as high as I could reach). Don't be messin' with The Bark's blocks, sister.
edward-e Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 im of the belief you should never hit or slap or touch a woman EXCEPT if its gunna put u in physical bodily harm like if shes hittin ur arm while mad u can just hold her to stop but if she starts punching u in the face and you are getting hurt u can do what it takes to get her off u....but dont hit her after u have successfully gotten away
redhighheels Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 I've never had a bf hit me or attempt to hit me, but I pity anyone who'd even try. Like the saying goes "That which does not kill me, better run damn fast!" Everyone makes mistakes - and leaving a man over this could be one of your biggest mistakes. Everyone can get pushed to the edge and if you pushed him and you yourself admit you probably deserved it then you can forgive this man and you should actually be questioning yourself more than him. In the context of the thread..slap yourself, girl! Whether she pushed him or not, he's the only one in control of his behaviour. There are no excuses for violence in relationships. None.
aloneanddepressed Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 In general, no I personally don't think there is any excuse to hit a woman, or any person for that matter. But, I think if a woman or man is being extremely violent towards another person(physically that is) and is highly abusive, the other person is always entitled to defending themselves. If they feel the need to hit back because they are feeling harmed or for their own safety reasons, you can't really expect them to just stand there. Vice versa.....
georgia girl Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Rules of life: no one ever gets to hit any one else, ever. That means a man doesn't hit a woman but a woman doesn't hit a man. It's what we teach in kindergarten and we expect kids to learn it. Adults need to control their emotions and if they can't, they are not an adult. End of story.
sally4sara Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Rules of life: no one ever gets to hit any one else, ever. That means a man doesn't hit a woman but a woman doesn't hit a man. It's what we teach in kindergarten and we expect kids to learn it. Adults need to control their emotions and if they can't, they are not an adult. End of story. I hear you on that, but the OP wanted to know opinions of if it is EVER okay. I feel it is twice as damaging to be hit while not feeling you can defend yourself either because hitting is wrong. Imagine you're getting beat up. It can make you feel weak or powerless. And if you don't believe you can defend yourself.....wouldn't that just add to the feeling powerless? The public schools put kids in this predicament. Don't hit EVER even in self defense. They punish both kids; they both get suspended as though they both chose the violence. So the kid that one day finds it in them to stand up to the brat who always bullies them gets punished the same as the bratty kid the teachers were not there to stop dishing it out everyday. I can't tell you how many times over the years my son has told me that he did bring something to a teacher's attention only to be told to stay away from the kid causing the problem and even "quit being a tattle!" And I know it's true, because I WAS a bully for a bit and these are the reasons why I was able to be so successfully. That is why I tell him when all other options don't work - fight back and don't stop till the teachers break it up.
boldjack Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Lori, I can't say what others would do , but if my sons ever struck a girl, what the school does to them would be an irrelevance. This was one of acts that would get a spanking, regardless of whether the girl hit first.
mark982 Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 years ago,just before ex and i seperated,we had a argument she had me on my tip toes with a knife at my throat(my mom and sister were both there),i punched her right between the eyes and knocked her azz out. had blood all over my shirt,damn womans lucky i didn't kill her. mom and sis walked out the door and never said a word. so in self defense hell yea it's ok to hit a woman.
Thomas X Forever Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 years ago,just before ex and i seperated,we had a argument she had me on my tip toes with a knife at my throat(my mom and sister were both there),i punched her right between the eyes and knocked her azz out. had blood all over my shirt,damn womans lucky i didn't kill her. mom and sis walked out the door and never said a word. so in self defense hell yea it's ok to hit a woman. LOL owned. You're from western PA? What part? I live near Pitt
Thornton Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 It is never ok for someone to hit someone else, unless it's in self defence. This goes for males and females, and children too - physical abuse is NOT ok under any circumstances. If someone hits you, you should walk away and report them to the authorities if necessary. If you hit back you lower yourself to the other person's level, whereas if you don't hit back they owe you an apology and you remain in the right. I realise there are shades of grey - sometimes a slap on the wrist is the easiest way to stop a child reaching for something dangerous, and sometimes people can be forgiven for becoming mildly physical (e.g. slapping) in extreme circumstances when they're very upset. But there is never any excuse for physical violence, especially not if it's a repeated occurrence.
Trojan John Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 I had a girlfriend who attempted to punch me in the face as hard as she could during an argument. It was was glancing because I dodged a bit. After a painful wrist lock and an explanation of what little pressure it takes to break a wrist, she decided it was best to never hit me again. But in general, don't hit a man unless you're prepared to be hit (or worse) in return by that man. That goes for women and men.
utterer of lies Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Is it ever right for a man to hit a woman? Yes. It's called BDSM, and it's ok if both partners consent. Other than that: No.
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