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I don't believe that I give LESS protection, love and care than men, though. I do think how we do it is just very different from how men do it.

 

For me, that the sexes have the capacity to complement each others' weaknesses and strengths is a good thing. The problems start when things get polarized and judged as one way being "better/wiser" and the other as "wrong/bad" -- which is actually what your post is doing, although I don't think that is necessarily your intention or your message. Though I obviously have no insight into your intentions...

 

 

Can you explain this? The carer/protector/nurturer role is usually the man's.

 

I think many women are protective of their sons.

 

 

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Y`all bad wimmins best not be touchin`ma baby boy or I`s gonna`blow yo`head off!!

 

TBF you are in rare form today!! :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

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Okay, now a serious response. My Daddy had my ex-H blackballed in the industry, when he cheated on me. This forced my ex to legally fight his employment status with his current employer, to get his job back. It drained his bank account immensely, through legal fees. Daddy sinks rotters six feet under...

 

When I have children and something like this happens to them, trust me, boy child or girl child, I`ll be doing whatever it takes, to hit any rotters where it hurts the most and worse.

 

You fail to take into account, a mother`s protective instinct.

 

 

Didn't you say this makes a man gay now?

 

Do you have any stories about women doing this to their sons's girlfriends?

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TBF you are in rare form today!! :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
Can`t help it when there`s blatant misogyny happening. It`s difficult to get serious about it when the OP isn`t interested in other perspectives, just wanting to prove why he hates women.

 

LS isn`t enough to help this guy, out of the place he`s trapped himself in.

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TBF always is in rare form.:love:....But, to attempt to give this thread some ummm depth.;)...I'll make this comment.

 

I could be wrong, but I don't think the OP was just referring to the mother/son dynamic. It could be sister/brother, cousins, platonic friends, or even coworkers....

 

I have had female friends step in and warn me away from certain women, and be angry after I'm treated badly by others. So, I certainly can say that women don't just take a random female's side.

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Liam Neeson killed 1/2 of Paris in order to protect his daughter. I don't think any mother can quite do that. :laugh:

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TBF always is in rare form.:love:....But, to attempt to give this thread some ummm depth.;)...I'll make this comment.

 

I could be wrong, but I don't think the OP was just referring to the mother/son dynamic. It could be sister/brother, cousins, platonic friends, or even coworkers....

 

I have had female friends step in and warn me away from certain women, and be angry after I'm treated badly by others. So, I certainly can say that women don't just take a random female's side.

I heart you too, gopher! :love:

 

Yes, I`ve warned male friends about predatory and abusive females before. I can`t control them though, so if they proceed, they`re adults who are responsible for themselves.

 

In a situation of a child, this would be something totally different. I could honestly see myself putting a bullet through a pedophile`s head, if he harmed even one of my nephews.

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Can you explain this? The carer/protector/nurturer role is usually the man's.

In my experience, physical protection and provision of material needs and wants fall to the man...traditionally, typically, on average. In my own case, when my dad died, a lot of that fell onto me -- there are many, many exceptions to any "rule" or tradition we care to mention.

 

Emotional care and nurturing, traditionally, typically, on average, fall to the woman. Men are not known for their caring and nurturing natures...that's not what people think of first. In my opinion and experience; exceptions to the "rule" acknowledged and accepted.

 

The challenge with women looking out for their adult men's emotional needs, is that it says to some other woman, "I can love, care and nurture this adult man better than you can." I can't see any man saying that to another man, either, to be honest.

 

Physically, men are stronger by nature and biology. Same as women are physically stronger than children. That's why the physical violence laws intended to protect women and children exist. Emotional violence laws have not yet been deemed necessary, is all.

 

And, like someone already posted, (straight) men are conditioned/programmed to scream as loudly as their macho little lungs will allow, "We don't need no steenkin' emotional violence laws!!!" But I agree with you...they do.

 

It's a right mess, alright :(

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Can`t help it when there`s blatant misogyny happening. It`s difficult to get serious about it when the OP isn`t interested in other perspectives, just wanting to prove why he hates women.

 

LS isn`t enough to help this guy, out of the place he`s trapped himself in.

 

Then educate me. What is enough to get me out of this trap?

 

Why don't women realize that when men have problems ridiculing them will only feed misogyny?

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And "compete and win" is NOT in furtherance of (men's) goals? And is NOT as simplistic and as laughable?

 

Of course it is; that's what I said. Read it again :)

 

I read it again just to be sure and didn't even spit through my dentures :D

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In my experience, physical protection and provision of material needs and wants fall to the man...traditionally, typically, on average. In my own case, when my dad died, a lot of that fell onto me -- there are many, many exceptions to any "rule" or tradition we care to mention.

 

Emotional care and nurturing, traditionally, typically, on average, fall to the woman. Men are not known for their caring and nurturing natures...that's not what people think of first. In my opinion and experience; exceptions to the "rule" acknowledged and accepted.

 

The challenge with women looking out for their adult men's emotional needs, is that it says to some other woman, "I can love, care and nurture this adult man better than you can." I can't see any man saying that to another man, either, to be honest.

 

Physically, men are stronger by nature and biology. Same as women are physically stronger than children. That's why the physical violence laws intended to protect women and children exist. Emotional violence laws have not yet been deemed necessary, is all.

 

And, like someone already posted, (straight) men are conditioned/programmed to scream as loudly as their macho little lungs will allow, "We don't need no steenkin' emotional violence laws!!!" But I agree with you...they do.

 

It's a right mess, alright :(

 

It still doesn't justify men being physically fed to the wolves.

Physical protection is the ultimate sacrifice.

I do think men are caring and nurturing. Certainly men comfort women duing a mutual crisis and women on average ask for more emotional support.

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Certainly men comfort women duing a mutual crisis and women on average ask for more emotional support.

 

I can say I've ended platonic friendships with women when the emotional support train didn't run both ways. Once I saw signs of my becoming their tampon, I realized it really wasn't a friendship that I felt healthy about and ended it.

 

OP, do you have any platonic female friends? How do they impact your emotional state? Do they give you input and support in matters of relationships? Do they validate your feelings. Oops, bad words there. Gotta stuff those down. Wouldn't want the sheriff to catch me feeling ;)

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It still doesn't justify men being physically fed to the wolves.

If you are talking about protecting minors from physical and sexual abuse, then absolutely you are correct. Of course.

 

While a woman may not be physically strong enough to attack the abuser and protect the child, she certainly does have an obligation and responsibility to get whatever help she needs. Absolutely!

 

If that happened to you and you were not protected by the other adults in your life, I am very sorry. You did not deserve that. They really ought to have defended and protected you. If that happened to you.

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I can say I've ended platonic friendships with women when the emotional support train didn't run both ways. Once I saw signs of my becoming their tampon, I realized it really wasn't a friendship that I felt healthy about and ended it.

 

OP, do you have any platonic female friends? How do they impact your emotional state? Do they give you input and support in matters of relationships? Do they validate your feelings. Oops, bad words there. Gotta stuff those down. Wouldn't want the sheriff to catch me feeling ;)

 

I've never had any platonic friends who have done that. If I brought this up they'd do the same thing women on here do. Say something like are you gay or what?

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I've never had any platonic friends who have done that. If I brought this up they'd do the same thing women on here do. Say something like are you gay or what?

 

Dude, you can't really say that, because you say you haven't been there. One of my best friends is a female and she absolutely hated an ex g/f of mine for how she treated and cheated on me, referring to her as my "tramp" ex g/f...this comment was made to her( my friend's) new husband.

 

Trust me, if you have a good woman as a friend, you'll have a bulldog in your corner, but she'll also call you out if you're messing up.

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Can`t help it when there`s blatant misogyny happening. It`s difficult to get serious about it when the OP isn`t interested in other perspectives, just wanting to prove why he hates women.

 

LS isn`t enough to help this guy, out of the place he`s trapped himself in.

 

No kidding. He just needs to go down to the vent page; he doesn't want to discuss or even argue. In his view, women are evil. Period.

 

Serious serious counseling.....

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Women's role is to raise a boy so that he can turn into an independent man and allow him the ability to pick out a suitable partner/partners for himself if he chooses. Once he is a man, he takes the punches and sucks it up in this thing we call life. More pain for men equals more growth. As a man you are inflicted with it daily in various forms, physical or otherwise. There is no other option but to deal with it. This is the life of man, and will be for quite some time. Women cannot protect man from pain, because pain is the ultimate teacher of man. He does not learn unless it pains him. There is no escape from pain, trying to avoid it you are only delaying the inevitable. I do not claim to know what it is like to be a woman, because I'm not a woman. Carry on, soldier!

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Look at how much adult males go through to protect women too though. Emotional stress, blood pressure, broken teeth/noses from fights, and even death.

 

Men have the responsibility for protecting/nurturing their woman. Women have the responsibility to only do the second.

 

And in return, women nurture/protect their young, while a whole lot of guys skip off into the sunset.

 

62% of custodial mothers do not receive child support. Now THERE'S a man who protects and nurtures, huh?

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You know, I'm sort of tired of asking because you seem to be a selective reader, but exactly how many long-term, committed relationships have you been in since graduating from high school?

 

(assuming you graduated, of course)

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What type of ****ed up attitude is this? Life is painful. I look to a woman to take this pain away.

 

Careful what you ask for......

 

You never know who might hear you.

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By your refusal to answer the most basic of question that has been asked (and ignored) three times, I can only assume that you have never had a single adult, long-term, romantic and sexual relationship with a woman.

 

Have you tried online dating sites?

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My point is this (and it is the same as in both your threads):

 

People of both sexes can be manipulative. People of both sexes can be cruel. People of both sexes can be beautiful. People of both sexes can be stupid. People of both sexes can be loving. People of both sexes can be teases. People of both sexes can be kind.

 

You are entirely too wrapped up into some inane idea that women are bad.

 

Women are not bad.

 

Nor are men.

 

Men and women are merely human beings with faults and with positive attributes.

 

Until you start looking at people as individuals instead of lumping them together as some entire evil group, you are going to find yourself increasingly bitter and increasingly alone.

 

Please seek out counseling for this extreme anger and this irrational hatred of an entire sex. Good luck.

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I've never had a long term relationship. So what? Men who have tell me the same thing.

 

You have had men here who tell you a different story. You don't acknowledge them.

Hmmm. Why is that?

 

And to get back to the main point of the thread are there women who will be just as protective and aggressive over their male relatives as men would do for women?

 

When you say that men are protective and aggressive you seem to imply that men drag another man into the back yard and start beating the hell out of him.

 

YOU have not had a relationship where this has happened.

I know of nobody in my life that this has ever happened to.

 

Where do you get this idea??

 

You are watching too many Lifetime movies. (And those are made for women dude.)

 

There have been plenty of times where I have had talks with my brother about relationships especially when the girl obviously does not have his best interest at heart.

 

I have told my guy friends the same thing but one thing you do not understand about relationships is there is loyalty to that partner and sometimes if one is too pushy or "aggressive" about not liking a person's choice of their SO then there can be severe backlash until that person sees the terrible for themselves.

 

You are feeling lonely and depressed and you are feeding that view with negative statements that have no BASIS in reality.

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My point is this (and it is the same as in both your threads):

 

People of both sexes can be manipulative. People of both sexes can be cruel. People of both sexes can be beautiful. People of both sexes can be stupid. People of both sexes can be loving. People of both sexes can be teases. People of both sexes can be kind.

 

Exactly.

 

Until you start looking at people as individuals instead of lumping them together as some entire evil group, you are going to find yourself increasingly bitter and increasingly alone.

 

Please seek out counseling for this extreme anger and this irrational hatred of an entire sex. Good luck.

 

Well said Lucky_One.

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I don't have kids yet, but if I did.....

 

I've already got the shotgun picked out to clean when my daughter brings her first boyfriend over. That is, if I let her date before she's 60.

 

My son? If he does on 14 dates in one weekend, I'll be one proud dad. Welcome to world of double standards, which is why I know God will saddle me with one son and one daughter, just to mock me. However, I know my daughter will get whatever she wants (except to go on dates), and I'll tell my son to go get a job. So the double standard flows both ways.

 

Fathers are inclined to protect their daughters more so than mothers are for sons, in respect to the dating world. Mother's comfort a broken hearted son, fathers load up the guns and go after the bastard that broke his little girl's heart. We've been programmed that way since the dawn of time. Mother's are loving creatures with logic and fathers are still knuckle dragging oaf's with a soft heart for their daughters.

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