When will women start protecting their male loved ones from bad partners?

[newtoloveshac]

I've always been mad about how women are not interrogated and threatened with violence if they hurt some mother's son the way men are?

 

When will women step up and start being equally protective?

[Trialbyfire]

If you expect your female partner to act like a man, change your gender preference. It's okay to be gay. Embrace it!

[carhill]

That's because men are socialized robots, feel no pain and can handle any challenge completely alone

 

Seriously, it's just history repeating itself. Someday we'll learn. As long as girls and boys continue to be socialized and modeled the way they are, the current stereotypes will exist in perpetuity. Enjoy

[newtoloveshac]

If you expect your female partner to act like a man, change your gender preference. It's okay to be gay. Embrace it!

 

**** off. Its the right thing to do. Or at least men shouldn't do it. No reason for women to freed from this requirement.

[EddieN]

If you expect your female partner to act like a man, change your gender preference. It's okay to be gay. Embrace it!

 

I think he means that he wants his mommy to protect him from evil girls.

 

Man, if my mom said anything to a girl I was dating or threatened her in any way, I would be PISSED. Even if the girl was a bitch to me, I'm totally capable of handling it without my mom stepping in.

[newtoloveshac]

That's because men are socialized robots, feel no pain and can handle any challenge completely alone

 

Seriously, it's just history repeating itself. Someday we'll learn. As long as girls and boys continue to be socialized and modeled the way they are, the current stereotypes will exist in perpetuity. Enjoy

 

How will it change?

[paddington bear]

I've always been mad about how women are not interrogated and threatened with violence if they hurt some mother's son the way men are?

 

When will women step up and start being equally protective?

 

Hmmm...well. Good friend (male) in very very bad emotionally abusive relationship. No point talking to the female side of the partnership as she's extremely volatile and irrational, and I would only make his life worse by saying something. I've tried to talk to him, but he's too brainwashed and ground down right now to see straight, so my words have been ignored.

 

So, what does one do? I would actually like to smash this woman's face in for what she's doing, but obviously I can't do that and remember folks, violence is not the answer...much as I would so like to do something very very nasty to give her what she deserves.

 

However, I've seen so many occasions in my own relatives with alcoholism and friends in abusive relationships and at the end of the day, the person, male or female has to somehow decide to leave themselves. Friends and relatives can cajole and point out rationally what's happening, but until the person themselves comes to their own decision, there's not much you can do other than point out the facts and hope that they see the light for themselves some time.

[Woggle]

Women put gender loyalty above even their own family. I wish men would start doing the same.

[newtoloveshac]

I think he means that he wants his mommy to protect him from evil girls.

 

Man, if my mom said anything to a girl I was dating or threatened her in any way, I would be PISSED. Even if the girl was a bitch to me, I'm totally capable of handling it without my mom stepping in.

 

 

So why should women be protected from the evil menz?

[Trialbyfire]

*pulls out the twelve-gauge shotgun*

 

Lock and load, baby! Make Mamma`s day!

[newtoloveshac]

Women put gender loyalty above even their own family. I wish men would start doing the same.

 

 

Yea seriously. Why don't women care about their male relatives? Women manipulate more. Who needs to be protected? So much for exagerating how dependent men are on their mothers.

[newtoloveshac]

*pulls out the twelve-gauge shotgun*

 

Lock and load, baby! Make Mamma`s day!

 

 

Why are you still here? I thought men who want care, comfort and protection are gay.

[Trialbyfire]

Y`all bad wimmins best not be touchin`ma baby boy or I`s gonna`blow yo`head off!!

[carhill]

Women put gender loyalty above even their own family. I wish men would start doing the same.

Wogs, it's because men are socialized to compete and win, not cooperate and network with their own gender. Everything is an interaction to further their own goals. I see it every day. It's so simplistic that I have to stop myself from laughing. I've spent a lifetime of attempting to do what you suggest and have been fruitless in that pursuit. Perhaps in another lifetime or ten?

[newtoloveshac]

Y`all bad wimmins best not be touchin`ma baby boy or I`s gonna`blow yo`head off!!

 

 

You know what it is this type of bs which hurts men more. Instead of having a place to vent and talk about things men get insulted and made fun of.

[paddington bear]

Oh come on, if we're talking about mothers intervening in their son's relationships we all know that a) the female partner is going to simply think that it's yet another interfering mother in law and b) that the son in question doesn't want to look like a mother's boy. That is that problem with that dynamic, I don't think it has anything to do with women being loyal to their gender, it's more to do with family dynamics - mother son, mother daughter-in-law relationships.

[newtoloveshac]

Oh come on, if we're talking about mothers intervening in their son's relationships we all know that a) the female partner is going to simply think that it's yet another interfering mother in law and b) that the son in question doesn't want to look like a mother's boy. That is that problem with that dynamic, I don't think it has anything to do with women being loyal to their gender, it's more to do with family dynamics - mother son, mother daughter-in-law relationships.

 

 

Because somehow interfering father in laws and daddy's little girls are positives?

[Ronni_W]

And "compete and win" is NOT in furtherance of (men's) goals? And is NOT as simplistic and as laughable?

 

Are some people for real? Or is it just 'Devil's Advocate' work?

 

NTLS, I do agree with you -- focusing on just one or the other is simplistic and laughable, and does not promote happy, safe and successful relationships between the sexes. How to change how society is currently doing it? Good lord, I do wish I had the answer to that one.

We'll keep brainstorming, huh? -- that's the only thing I can think to do.

[Trialbyfire]

You know what it is this type of bs which hurts men more. Instead of having a place to vent and talk about things men get insulted and made fun of.

See, even you can`t stand an interfering mother! Proves my point so now, I can put away the shotgun as unnecessary.

[newtoloveshac]

And "compete and win" is NOT in furtherance of (men's) goals? And is NOT as simplistic and as laughable?

 

Are some people for real? Or is it just 'Devil's Advocate' work?

 

NTLS, I do agree with you -- focusing on just one or the other is simplistic and laughable, and does not promote happy, safe and successful relationships between the sexes. How to change how society is currently doing it? Good lord, I do wish I had the answer to that one.

We'll keep brainstorming, huh? -- that's the only thing I can think to do.

 

 

I wish you did too. Currently it seems men give more protection, love, care. I don't feel this is natural. As men and women are both socialized in a certain way.

[newtoloveshac]

See, even you can`t stand an interfering mother! Proves my point so now, I can put away the shotgun as unnecessary.

 

Where did I say an interfering mother is one who insults her boy? Is she supposed to be protecting or abusing him?

 

Whatever. Make fun.

[paddington bear]

Because somehow interfering father in laws and daddy's little girls are positives?

 

All I'm saying is that that's the automatic assumption when mothers get involved (particularly) with their son's relationships. We've all been brought up in a society where the sexes play out their roles (whether that is biological or learned behaviour is another debate) and daddy's are the first man in a woman's life and they take on that role of protector. Mothers, I think are made feel more guilty for taking on that role, it is seen as interfering rather than as protecting, and men are seen as wimpy when their mommies come along to save them, whereas women are expected to be grateful when their first knight in shining armour, their daddy rides in to save them.

[gopher]

As boys we are taught to need help, is to be weak....so we suck it up and deal with it, many times to our own detriment because of our own poor choices.

[Ronni_W]

Currently it seems men give more protection, love, care.

I don't believe that I give LESS protection, love and care than men, though. I do think how we do it is just very different from how men do it.

 

For me, that the sexes have the capacity to complement each others' weaknesses and strengths is a good thing. The problems start when things get polarized and judged as one way being "better/wiser" and the other as "wrong/bad" -- which is actually what your post is doing, although I don't think that is necessarily your intention or your message. Though I obviously have no insight into your intentions...

[Trialbyfire]

Okay, now a serious response. My Daddy had my ex-H blackballed in the industry, when he cheated on me. This forced my ex to legally fight his employment status with his current employer, to get his job back. It drained his bank account immensely, through legal fees. Daddy sinks rotters six feet under...

 

When I have children and something like this happens to them, trust me, boy child or girl child, I`ll be doing whatever it takes, to hit any rotters where it hurts the most and worse.

 

You fail to take into account, a mother`s protective instinct.