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donnamaybe Established Member

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Yeah, because that would be a much more serious character flaw than if he were "only" lying to his wife and children.

Wow... just.... wow.

 

I know. Sheesh! :rolleyes:

donnamaybe Established Member

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You're one of the few who actually gets it.. ;)

 

That is NOT surprising. :rolleyes:

Soul-Searcher Established Member

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you could still get the great sex from him - but just make sure you start charging him. you are capable of keeping the emotions out of it Lizzie, you could do it this way... then it's a win - win situation.

 

you call him on his crap, you present the business opportunity, you still get the good sex.

 

OMG lol. :lmao::lmao::lmao:

donnamaybe Established Member

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OMG lol. :lmao::lmao::lmao:

 

What's so funny? She already does that with her OTHER MM.

boldjack Established Member

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I would hope that you and I will always have a friendly relationship here at LS, Liz. I guess I misspoke, I don't think that you are immoral, maybe amoral would a better description. I really hope that this works out for you and that this guy is straight up with you. I disagree with you about the vulnerability issue, however. When I decided to marry, I told my wife-to-be that anything she needed to know about my past, she was free to ask and I would tell her the truth. I did this for two reasons, 1) to prove that I was committed to her completely 2) that she never have a reason to doubt my honesty. She has only asked a few times, but I was totally honest each and every time. For example; I slept with her roommate, before we became exclusive. She asked about this and I told her. We broke up for 2 months because of it, but she realized that I was being honest and came back to me. If I had not told her, and we had gotten married and she found out later, we would probably have been divorced. You have some pretty serious trust issues, to deal with, as well. You know that you haven't been the most honest person, yet you expect honesty from others. You get, what you give. Be upfront with this man and I think that you will be happier with the result.

donnamaybe Established Member

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As for the title of this thread, ALL of your "lovers" are liars. Why should this one be any different?

JamesM Established Member

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How to find something out about Mr. Sean Jamison:

 

intellius.com (paid site, but they will do a search that comes up with the person's family members for free - Sean Jamison, aged 54, lives in Topeka, and is linked with Susan, Jacqueline, Brian and Mary)

 

 

Start there, Lizzie.

 

 

For the record, Veromi.net does this for free. The only thing you need to watch for is if say Sean has a name such as Mary listed next to him, it could be a dead wife. Otherwise, I have found it very accurate as far as age and location. You can also use the Whitepages.com to locate an address as long as it is not unlisted. Zabasearch is okay as long as you realize that the address listed could be an old one.

JamesM Established Member

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She has charged him for sex?! This is what I find hilarious. She is asking for honesty from her MM when she has no morals herself. Just when I thought she couldn't sink any lower...

 

I disagree with this.

 

Surely you know a bit about Lizzie. She gives massages to people...mainly men. So, married men have no reason to be lying to her about their marital status.

 

I agree that MM do lie to their wives to get their massages sometimes. I don't see a reason to lie to Lizzie except to prevent their wives/gfs from finding out where they are going.

 

Funny thing is...most men who get such massages are married/attached. But all like to imagine that somehow they are different than most men, and they like to try and convince massage therapists that they are somehow special.

 

Lizzie, where are some new pictures? MM like me do enjoy seeing them. :love::bunny:

 

(Hey, I was honest! :D )

Crow9726 Established Member

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Unless I'm mistaken...isn't this the same guy who was working on Lizzie's new condo complex? The one she seduced because she thought he was hot? The one who turned her on physically?

 

I have known many women in the past who were looking for love with their legs spread...only to find that lust is all that came out of it.

 

It seems to me that looking for love through sex only lures those who are looking for sex without love.

 

Just my curiosity asking.

donnamaybe Established Member

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I disagree with this.

 

Surely you know a bit about Lizzie. She gives massages to people...mainly men. So, married men have no reason to be lying to her about their marital status.

 

Massage? Is that the new euphemism for it now? :rolleyes:

JamesM Established Member

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Massage? Is that the new euphemism for it now? :rolleyes:

 

 

No, this is what she really des and gets paid for. Whatever happens AFTER the massage is between two consenting adults. :D

donnamaybe Established Member

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No, this is what she really des and gets paid for. Whatever happens AFTER the massage is between two consenting adults. :D

 

Yeah. Okay. I'm sure that's exactly how the transactions are laid out. :rolleyes:

 

It just baffles me how someone who associates with liars and cheats day in and day out is surprised to be lied to.

donnamaybe Established Member

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To truly add something to this thread, whether the OP agrees with me or not, I honestly believe that if a person consistently surrounds themselves with liars and people with very little integrity (such as people who deceive and cheat on their spouses), they will just naturally be in their midst at every other turn. If a person, however, makes a conscious effort to NOT associate with people of that ilk, their lives will naturally be filled with a greater number of people who do NOT treat others that way. People who DO have integrity. People who do NOT constantly lie to their spouses. Once it becomes clear to a certain subset of the population what kind of people you do not allow in your inner circle, those you do NOT allow won't seek you out so readily.

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Lizzie60 Established Member

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I would hope that you and I will always have a friendly relationship here at LS, Liz. I guess I misspoke, I don't think that you are immoral, maybe amoral would a better description. I really hope that this works out for you and that this guy is straight up with you. I disagree with you about the vulnerability issue, however. When I decided to marry, I told my wife-to-be that anything she needed to know about my past, she was free to ask and I would tell her the truth. I did this for two reasons, 1) to prove that I was committed to her completely 2) that she never have a reason to doubt my honesty. She has only asked a few times, but I was totally honest each and every time. For example; I slept with her roommate, before we became exclusive. She asked about this and I told her. We broke up for 2 months because of it, but she realized that I was being honest and came back to me. If I had not told her, and we had gotten married and she found out later, we would probably have been divorced. You have some pretty serious trust issues, to deal with, as well. You know that you haven't been the most honest person, yet you expect honesty from others. You get, what you give. Be upfront with this man and I think that you will be happier with the result.

 

I understand what you're saying Bold.. and I can respect that.. but in MY case, it's different.. I will never divulge anything about my past to someone I will have a serious relationship.. in my mind, it doesn't matter how much partners, what I did, etc... if I fall in love with someone.. I WILL be faithful.. I know that.. I've always been faithful in my relationships.

 

What good would that be to put trust issues and doubts in someone's mind if I have absolutely NO intentions of living this lifestyle any longer.. it would NOT bring anything good.. IMO.

 

Not ALL truths are good to tell.. I truly believe that. :)

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Lizzie60 Established Member

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For the record, Veromi.net does this for free. The only thing you need to watch for is if say Sean has a name such as Mary listed next to him, it could be a dead wife. Otherwise, I have found it very accurate as far as age and location. You can also use the Whitepages.com to locate an address as long as it is not unlisted. Zabasearch is okay as long as you realize that the address listed could be an old one.

 

Thanks James.. but if I only have a name it won't be any good.. I already checked on a site.. and it came up with about 15 guys with the same name.. :o

 

We already spoke 3 times this morning.. (he woke me up) he wants to come over this afternoon to finish the job he started a month ago.. he's so freaken slow.. anyway.. there will be no more sex.. but just out of curiosity I need to know what's going on..

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I disagree with this.

 

Surely you know a bit about Lizzie. She gives massages to people...mainly men. So, married men have no reason to be lying to her about their marital status.

 

I agree that MM do lie to their wives to get their massages sometimes. I don't see a reason to lie to Lizzie except to prevent their wives/gfs from finding out where they are going.

 

Funny thing is...most men who get such massages are married/attached. But all like to imagine that somehow they are different than most men, and they like to try and convince massage therapists that they are somehow special.

 

Lizzie, where are some new pictures? MM like me do enjoy seeing them. :love::bunny:

 

(Hey, I was honest! :D )

 

Thanks James.. I love to get the male perspective.. it's so refreshing.. and different. ;)

 

New pics.. well as soon as I get my new camera.. I will put some more in my album... ;)

boldjack Established Member

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Liz, Album? How come I've never been able to see your pics?

2sunny Established Member

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think about this lizzie...

 

he is a workaholics - yet he makes time for hours and hours of sex with you... he doesn't have the time or make the effort to "take you out" WHY? because he doesn't need to.

 

he hasn't been required to "date" you - only required to have sex because it's good.

 

logically from his perspective, if he can be AWAY from his wife without her noticing for a few hours - why would he waste time taking you somewhere when he only wants the sex... he just doesn't want to tell you the truth of that... he only wants the sex and not to date you.

 

i'd just charge him. he's not dating material no matter how you want to dress up his excuses.

gopher Established Member

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think about this lizzie...

 

he is a workaholics - yet he makes time for hours and hours of sex with you... he doesn't have the time or make the effort to "take you out" WHY? because he doesn't need to.

 

he hasn't been required to "date" you - only required to have sex because it's good.

 

logically from his perspective, if he can be AWAY from his wife without her noticing for a few hours - why would he waste time taking you somewhere when he only wants the sex... he just doesn't want to tell you the truth of that... he only wants the sex and not to date you.

 

i'd just charge him. he's not dating material no matter how you want to dress up his excuses.

 

I think he's already "paying" her with the work he is doing on the condo, which was Lizzie's intention in the first place. Nothing wrong with using the barter system between unattached single adults. From her original posts, Lizzie seemed to have had no intention of it being any more than that. Maybe the guy approached it the same way.

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Lizzie60 Established Member

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I think he's already "paying" her with the work he is doing on the condo, which was Lizzie's intention in the first place. Nothing wrong with using the barter system between unattached single adults. From her original posts, Lizzie seemed to have had no intention of it being any more than that. Maybe the guy approached it the same way.

 

Gopher.. instead of making false allegations.. maybe you should read ALL my posts.. :rolleyes:

 

I paid him good real 'money' for his work.. that's how it all started.. there was no barter system here.. it's still not quite finish..he will finish the job today.. it's already been paid 'in full' so he needs to finish a few things..

 

Get your info right will you! :sick:

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Lizzie60 Established Member

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think about this lizzie...

 

he is a workaholics - yet he makes time for hours and hours of sex with you... he doesn't have the time or make the effort to "take you out" WHY? because he doesn't need to.

 

he hasn't been required to "date" you - only required to have sex because it's good.

 

logically from his perspective, if he can be AWAY from his wife without her noticing for a few hours - why would he waste time taking you somewhere when he only wants the sex... he just doesn't want to tell you the truth of that... he only wants the sex and not to date you.

 

i'd just charge him. he's not dating material no matter how you want to dress up his excuses.

 

Sunny .. stop it!!!!

 

Are you being sarcastic .. I'm not sure about your 'sincerity' anymore. :mad:

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Lizzie60,

 

Woman, you don't think he's married...you KNOW! Either that or there is someone he's hiding.

I say this from experience. I've written a post about this man I was once seeing. Oh I've heard it all. Don't waste your time as I did. I was naive.

I kept trying to believe the better.

That should have been my first and LAST red sign to toss him to the curb...the minute you start justifying crazy behaviour, you know you caught yourself a loser!

Get out before you hurt yourself, and hurt someone else who really has nothing to do with this.

Hope this helps

2sunny Established Member

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Sunny .. stop it!!!!

 

Are you being sarcastic .. I'm not sure about your 'sincerity' anymore. :mad:

 

no i'm not being sarcastic lizzie - and i also wasn't intending to be mean. i just thought i was pointing out the evidence or facts of the situation from his perspective.

 

i'm not so sure why this man and his facts would hurt your feelings in this way. that surprises me a lot... is there a reason why?

 

it wasn't designed to be hurtful - only designed to look specifically at logistics - i really thought your brain usually processes these situations in this way and it wouldn't offend you at all... so sorry.

gopher Established Member

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Gopher.. instead of making false allegations.. maybe you should read ALL my posts.. :rolleyes:

 

I paid him good real 'money' for his work.. that's how it all started.. there was no barter system here.. it's still not quite finish..he will finish the job today.. it's already been paid 'in full' so he needs to finish a few things..

 

Get your info right will you! :sick:

 

I'm man enough to say I'm sorry if I am, but didn't you initially say that you were hoping to get some free "upgrades"?

 

And dear Lizzie, dear sweet Lizzie, you have more than 10,000 posts, and I do have a life outside of LS, LOL!!!

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No, this is what she really des and gets paid for. Whatever happens AFTER the massage is between two consenting adults. :D

 

? I'm confused. I thought Lizzie was an interior decorator?

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