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Lizzie60 Established Member

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Exposing seems to have become the unofficial and yet most popular hobby on LS. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

Like Lizzie60 needed exposure - she is being herself from day 1.

 

Thanks.. unlike others who swear are being 'honest'... but they are indeed the most hypocrits... at least.. I don't put up a 'fake' front... ;)

Ariadne Established Member

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No.. but.. I'm not the only one who started a thread about having doubts on a 'brand new' potential relationship... really!!!:rolleyes:

 

Plus I have read many times that some OWs would not tolerated to be 'cheated' on... it's OK for him to have the W.. she's already there.. but to have another OW.. no way.. :mad:

 

No, I meant that honestly.

 

They are taking their issues on you.

Touche Established Member

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Uhm...ever heard of lying by omission? DUH!

Ariadne Established Member

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She doesn't want anyone to lie to HER

saying we don't REALLY know and every single man on the planet cheats.:rolleyes:

 

Ok, I missed this post.

 

This is pretty funny Touche.

 

See Lizzie? Your guy is just being like every other guy. :laugh:

Touche Established Member

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Exposing seems to have become the unofficial and yet most popular hobby on LS. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

Like Lizzie60 needed exposure - she is being herself from day 1.

 

This is very, very true...to a degree.

 

But the thing is, is that most of it was hogwash. We now see that SHE expects total honesty and no cheating from someone she is emotionally and physically involved with. That's where she's now been "exposed." Because all along she has said that there's no such thing. So why is it she now wants something she thinks or has said, doesn't even exist?

 

The truth comes out now.

sally4sara Established Member

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No my MM do not need to lie to the W.. because the W has absolutely no clues at all.. so why would the MM lie to her?

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Puuulllleeeezze... unless you are a psychiatrist.. don't analyze me..:sick:

 

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Puuullleeezze indeed lady! You know darn well the life she thinks she lives is a lie. And you never care about that because it isn't YOUR marriage so it isn't YOUR problem. :sick:

I've seen you excuse yourself with that logic on here.

Now that its you getting lied to, you want to bemoan your problem.

Its a public forum sure, but did you think anyone would sympathize?

 

It isn't OUR problem!

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No my MM do not need to lie to the W.. because the W has absolutely no clues at all.. so why would the MM lie to her?

 

I actually think you believe that but that is one crazy theory.

 

Your MM must say something to their wives when in reality they are spending their time with you. They will say they are at work, or at the gym, playing golf, meeting a client, etc.

 

They sure as hell aren't telling their wife they are seeing you to have sex with you. How is that not lying to their wives?

 

Lizzie, would you lie for one of your MM if a wife approached you about her husband? Or would you tell her that her suspicions are right and that her husband is one of your clients or boy-toys or whatever you want to call them?

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Ok, I missed this post.

 

This is pretty funny Touche.

 

See Lizzie? Your guy is just being like every other guy. :laugh:

 

FINALLY, you get it! See the hypocrisy now?

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Lizzie60 Established Member

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Ok, I missed this post.

 

This is pretty funny Touche.

 

See Lizzie? Your guy is just being like every other guy. :laugh:

 

He probably is..... ;)

marlena Established Member

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I don´t see what the big deal is. Lizzie is as much entitled to wanting a relationship as the next person is. Her wanting to know if the man she is seeing is married is also normal. Like always, she wants to know the truth. Nobody likes being lied to. Why should she be an exception? Just because she chooses to have sex, just sex, with MM does not mean she doesn´t deserve a real relationship or the truth.

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If a person is THAT distrustful of who they're sleeping with, then they need to drop them like a hot potato and examine why they started sleeping with someone they didn't know all that well to begin with.

 

Yeah, this guy is pretty shady alright.

 

She said he had an answer for everything, I believe her.

 

But it seems like she happens to like him a lot.

 

I'm curious to see what he'll say to the unexisting address.

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Thanks.. unlike others who swear are being 'honest'... but they are indeed the most hypocrits... at least.. I don't put up a 'fake' front... ;)

 

Lizzie.. honestly.. my worst nightmare is my MM (now separated M) having a neighbour or a colleague like you, but as he lives across the Atlantic Ocean I can appreciate the braveness in being who you are.

Even in a "neutral"place like the internet, there are plenty of people who preach their moral superiority from one account and air their own dirty laundry with another.

I strongly dislike off-topic criticizing (on-topic citicizing, or even on topic bashing, are a different matter) as IMO it drives people to become more hypocrital, and liars to lie and hide more. It's a vicious loop.

"Imposed" shame (shame not coming from oneself) is not going to redeem anyone. Ever.

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Oh, and Lizzie, you know deep in your heart that something´s wrong here. Trust your intuition and experience. He is most likely misrepresenting himself. Sorry but if you are having doubts, perhaps it´s time to close the door on this one.

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Like always, she wants to know the truth. Nobody likes being lied to. Why should she be an exception?

 

Marlena, Do you think she has told him the truth about her relationships that she is having with other guys ?

 

I'm curious to know if she was upfront and truthful about herself, here she is expecting the truth from him and is upset about him lying when she herself most likely has been lying to him :)

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This is very, very true...to a degree.

 

But the thing is, is that most of it was hogwash. We now see that SHE expects total honesty and no cheating from someone she is emotionally and physically involved with. That's where she's now been "exposed." Because all along she has said that there's no such thing. So why is it she now wants something she thinks or has said, doesn't even exist?

 

The truth comes out now.

 

I do not recall her saying she expected total honesty and no cheating from him, but I have not read carefully the whole thread, so i might have missed it. :)

Being upset if he lied to her is a natural reaction.

 

Anyway... if she now would like someone to be honest and faithful to her... mightn't it just mean that she is changing for the better? :)

(I like happy endings, I guess)

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I don´t see what the big deal is. Lizzie is as much entitled to wanting a relationship as the next person is. Her wanting to know if the man she is seeing is married is also normal. Like always, she wants to know the truth. Nobody likes being lied to. Why should she be an exception? Just because she chooses to have sex, just sex, with MM does not mean she doesn´t deserve a real relationship or the truth.

 

Thanks Marlena.. you're a sweetie.. as usual... and you also get my point.. :love:

Ariadne Established Member

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FINALLY, you get it! See the hypocrisy now?

 

Well, if you deal with robbers all day, you tend to have a perception that everyone is a robber.

 

It's pretty normal.

 

I don't think she is purposely being an hypocrite or anything like that.

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Oh, and Lizzie, you know deep in your heart that something´s wrong here. Trust your intuition and experience. He is most likely misrepresenting himself. Sorry but if you are having doubts, perhaps it´s time to close the door on this one.

 

 

and trust me.. I will ... I will make him pay for what he did.. trust me on that one.. I just can't wait.. to see what he will do next.. ;)

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Lizzie.. honestly.. my worst nightmare is my MM (now separated M) having a neighbour or a colleague like you, but as he lives across the Atlantic Ocean I can appreciate the braveness in being who you are.

Even in a "neutral"place like the internet, there are plenty of people who preach their moral superiority from one account and air their own dirty laundry with another.

I strongly dislike off-topic criticizing (on-topic citicizing, or even on topic bashing, are a different matter) as IMO it drives people to become more hypocrital, and liars to lie and hide more. It's a vicious loop.

"Imposed" shame (shame not coming from oneself) is not going to redeem anyone. Ever.

 

Gosh I wish I could express myself as good as you.. you said exactly what I've been trying to say for a long time... thanks.. ;)

 

I only have ONE account...

Touche Established Member

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I do not recall her saying she expected total honesty and no cheating from him, but I have not read carefully the whole thread, so i might have missed it. :)

Being upset if he lied to her is a natural reaction.

 

Anyway... if she now would like someone to be honest and faithful to her... mightn't it just mean that she is changing for the better? :)

(I like happy endings, I guess)

 

Nah. She's not changing for the anything. My whole point is that she wanted a truthful and honest relationship ALL ALONG. She just can't get it so she acted like it didn't exist. Like if it's not something SHE can attain, then it's not in existence and anyone who thinks it IS is being lied to and is naive.

 

I knew this all along. This thread just confirms it. So maybe now she'll finally stop telling people they're fools for believing that they're SO is loyal.

 

And just for the record...no fake front here. I've always been honest about MY mistakes in life. I own them and I don't make excuses for them.

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Marlena, Do you think she has told him the truth about her relationships that she is having with other guys ?

 

I'm curious to know if she was upfront and truthful about herself, here she is expecting the truth from him and is upset about him lying when she herself most likely has been lying to him :)

 

Lying about what??? I am single.. he knows it.. he can stay overnight anytime he wants.. I have not lied to him... as we have not talked about being 'exclusive' yet.. it's brand new..

 

I am not in a relationship... and not married.. so what am I lying to him about???

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I don´t see what the big deal is. Lizzie is as much entitled to wanting a relationship as the next person is. Her wanting to know if the man she is seeing is married is also normal. Like always, she wants to know the truth. Nobody likes being lied to. Why should she be an exception? Just because she chooses to have sex, just sex, with MM does not mean she doesn´t deserve a real relationship or the truth.

 

That is true, but it also begs the question what would Lizzie do if she and that guy got into a real relationship.

 

Would she keep her hobby/business with the MM a secret from that guy and continue with it? Would she stop doing it and never tell him? Would she tell him the truth and stop?

 

The issue for me is not whether Lizzie shouldn't be allowed to have a real relationships, feelings and all included. Of course she can. What interests me is rather if Lizzie doesn't primarily want a relationship on her terms. The guy needs to be honest, he mustn't lie. The question is, is she willing to give what she demands?

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And just for the record...no fake front here.

 

No doubt about that, I couldn't imagine you hiding behind a fake name even if I tried really hard! :)

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and trust me.. I will ... I will make him pay for what he did.. trust me on that one.. I just can't wait.. to see what he will do next.. ;)

 

No offense meant, but maybe you have run into someone who plays the game even better than you do...

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No doubt about that, I couldn't imagine you hiding behind a fake name even if I tried really hard! :)

 

Try all you want. I've never "hidden" anything. I am who I am. I've owned up to all my crap on here. Why would I lie?

 

Have some on here been banned under another name and come back? Sure. But that doesn't mean they're hiding behind a different persona. They're still the same person.

 

Not sure where you're going with this Adu. If you have something to say why not just come out with it? I'd have a hell of a lot more respect for you if you did.:)

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