Stark Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 I'll give an example. I like to call it the reversal breakup routine. It's like a beautifully written drama script....push someone away, make them feel unwanted, or send mixed signals... make them call you out on it then play on their insecurities of questioning it to end it, so that way you trick yourself into thinking that you're not the bad one but the other person is the bad one for second guessing it. Example of writing for above scenario: "Right. You say you like me, but every time I try to arrange something you're always busy all of a sudden, and never suggest when to meet up. If I call you, you'll be in no position to talk....and when I text you, you're low on credit (whats even funnier about that is I had one girl do that to me when I knew she had a tariff for unlimited texts hoho). Do me a favour and just come out and say you're not interested anymore. I'm not too bothered but I don't like being messed around or lied to" "I do like you. I do want to see you. I'm not lying. I'm just busy. You don't trust me, what is your problem you are paranoid, you know just forget it I don't want someone who clearly cant trust me. " That way you don't seem like an ass to yourself but you get a reason to end with someone. Any other moves people know like this? Lets reveal these scummy things for what they are, so when people do it, that you'll realize it
Epsilon Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 I've heard that one before. When someone starts showing a bunch of red flags like that, calling them out on it usually results in that person calling you "paranoid and untrusting" and then tries to turn the blame back on you in an attempt to find something concrete instead of simply "I've found someone else" or "I'm bored with you" or something potentially more cruel.
Left in a Lurch Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 Your example is a good one. Part of what you said comes to mind for me, the "I am too busy to call back." Someone indicates interest, and every time you talk about going out with them they seem like they are all for it, but then you can never connect because they are too busy. Sometimes it's a woman with kids but no job. Their kids are in school all day, or young and in bed by 9 or 10 but they just can't seem to find 45 seconds to call and say hi. We all know this is bs. I work most of the day from 7am until I go to bed after midnight. I work most weekends. I know people that work and have kids and most have way more free time than I do. I am as busy as anyone I know and have to turn down a lot of outings with friends (most with kids) because I am so swamped I can barely see daylight, but if I find someone I am interested in I can ALWAYS find time to go out and at the very least find time to call or answer my phone. It's funny when you get someone like this on the phone they tell you about how they saw a movie or had lunch with a friend. Everybody has time to return a call if they want to. The other one I see going away is "I didn't get your voicemail/text." Cell phones have evolved. Pretty much every text and voicemail goes through, and 90% of the time people have their phone on them and know the exact second you called and chose to ignore it. They get indicators for vms and texts, and have alerts and songs going off. I hold to the belief that everyone everywhere gets all of their voicemails and texts every time, anyone who claims they didn't is bs'ing you.
Bayern Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 They break all contact and if you somehow get in touch with them they tell you "You know what you did. Don't ever talk to me again". How pathetic...
Epsilon Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 Your example is a good one. Part of what you said comes to mind for me, the "I am too busy to call back." Someone indicates interest, and every time you talk about going out with them they seem like they are all for it, but then you can never connect because they are too busy. Sometimes it's a woman with kids but no job. Their kids are in school all day, or young and in bed by 9 or 10 but they just can't seem to find 45 seconds to call and say hi. We all know this is bs. I work most of the day from 7am until I go to bed after midnight. I work most weekends. I know people that work and have kids and most have way more free time than I do. I am as busy as anyone I know and have to turn down a lot of outings with friends (most with kids) because I am so swamped I can barely see daylight, but if I find someone I am interested in I can ALWAYS find time to go out and at the very least find time to call or answer my phone. It's funny when you get someone like this on the phone they tell you about how they saw a movie or had lunch with a friend. Everybody has time to return a call if they want to. The other one I see going away is "I didn't get your voicemail/text." Cell phones have evolved. Pretty much every text and voicemail goes through, and 90% of the time people have their phone on them and know the exact second you called and chose to ignore it. They get indicators for vms and texts, and have alerts and songs going off. I hold to the belief that everyone everywhere gets all of their voicemails and texts every time, anyone who claims they didn't is bs'ing you. There are a couple of times where I have indeed not received voicemail or messages or calls from people that have clear records that they did. But, you are right that most of the time, it doesn't happen. It's too improbable of an occurrence, usually, for people to be able to use it as a consistent excuse. And I agree -- when you're interested in someone, you find a way to make time for them, even if you have a busy schedule. Funny how that works ;p
Left in a Lurch Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 There are a couple of times where I have indeed not received voicemail or messages or calls from people that have clear records that they did. But, you are right that most of the time, it doesn't happen. It's too improbable of an occurrence, usually, for people to be able to use it as a consistent excuse. And I agree -- when you're interested in someone, you find a way to make time for them, even if you have a busy schedule. Funny how that works ;p I do know there are rare times and they always seems to happen with the most important messages, but usually in a dating scenario it's pretty much bs.
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