butcher's hook Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 oh i forgot to give my update. i talked with susan sunday nite and we talked for 20 minutes or so. no romantic talk just regular stuff. we're getting together on friday nite which would make it two and a half weeks since our first date. that must be a record for me for length between 1st and 2nd dates this second date should be the determining factor as to whether we press on with this whole thing. there are some issues concerning the distance (she lives around 35 miles from me and in chicago that is a HUGE distance), also she has a disabled brother living with her AND she has a stressful job. she seems like a workaholic too and she also likes to go to bed by 9pm and wake up at 4:30am - even on weekends. ...i think its cause she has no social life but i'm not sure. but all these things can be worked out if there is a good connection between us. we'll see. I dunno Alpha, and not that you have to tell us anything here out in the open this is more for your own personal analysis but it seems to me that something in that phone conversation has turned you off about her or scared you. I do EXACTLY what you are doing when I hear or see something I don't like in the person I am dating, I look for a million and one reasons to talk myself out of them and they are all things that were very much there before I was turned off but they didn't seem to matter before. What has happened lately was there a disappointment of sorts?
Touche Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 I think it was always a facade When it comes down to it youre all femme and soft inside....not that theres anything wrong with that Hell Im more ALpha and Ive hung out in tranny bars Holy crap. It's scary when I agree with Burnee here but yeah. I do.
Sweetcheripie Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 i'm turning into a lump of jello...pretty soon y'all will be calling me "cali-alpha" oh woe is me Indeed!
Citizen Erased Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 I think it was always a facade When it comes down to it youre all femme and soft inside....not that theres anything wrong with that Hell Im more ALpha and Ive hung out in tranny bars Aww you said femme.
burning 4 revenge Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 Aww you said femme. Yes, youve influenced my vocabulary
a4a Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 no i don't care about the "walk down the aisle". i live with my brother and she lives with her brother so how are we going to get the sex part in? i can't afford a fancy hotel every weekend.... i don't know. why can't i just find someone who lives near me and lives alone and isn't married to their job? Oh no is your biological clock ticking? Man up!! Just nail her behind the dumpster at the local KFC next time you go out. Buy her a 3 piece meal and tell her to give it up! If you date people 4 plus hours away less likely they are to catch you boffing a new foundling behind their back. Locals have more stalking ability. BTW you can always check the local homeless shelter if you are after a woman without a career.
Art_Critic Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 Just nail her behind the dumpster at the local KFC next time you go out. Buy her a 3 piece meal and tell her to give it up! .. Buy her a 3 piece meal and tell her the 4th piece is free
Mary3 Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 .. Buy her a 3 piece meal and tell her the 4th piece is free lol !............
Mary3 Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 gosh i feel so depressed Alpha , I think this girl had a much deeper meaning for you. It sounds like you want to settle down and are dissapointed that you wont get to become intimate when the time arrives. Have you thought of getting your own place ? In this economy alot of people are rooming with family or as roomates. Do you think you could swing a small one bedroom just so you and the girl / or any girl in your future , can both be alone ? Under that hard crusty shell Alpha wants love and a partnership.
Author alphamale Posted July 15, 2009 Author Posted July 15, 2009 i just returned from one of the most interesting spur-of-the-moment dates with Susan. Unfortunately i'm very tired right now so i'll tell you about it tomorrow....
Author alphamale Posted July 15, 2009 Author Posted July 15, 2009 ya so here's what happenedd yesterday Susan called me outta the blue around 2pm and we chatted. she asked if we could get together for dinner as a spur-of-the-moment thingy. i said yes and we picked a location. we had a nice dinner in a quite little italian place she frequents. it was romantic and we flirted and drank and ate. i was keeping count of the number of wines she had. after her fourth vino she ordered a fifth one and i told her she better not cause we both had to drive home. anyhoo, so she says to me "you cutting me off?!?" and i again re-iterated she shouldn't have another glass but she ordered it anyways. we were both pretty hammered by then cause i had had 3 very strong rum n cokes. we were at the restaurant for quite a while (around 4 hours) so its not like we drunk all that real quick. so we went back to her car and made out for around an hour...she was still pretty hammered and i told her not to drive. she said she was ok but i could visibly see she was pretty drunk. so we made out some more and again she said she was going to drive and again i told her not to. we made out some more. by now my lips were numb so she finally agreed she was too hammered to drive and she called her brother to come pick her up. it took him more than an hour to get there and i waited with her while she zonked out in the drivers seat. when her bro showed up it was funny explaining to him what happened. he must have thought i was a jamoke letting his sister get blitzed like that. anyways i just talked with her 30 minutes ago. shes ok but called in sick to work. apparently her perfect attendance record at work is now history but all in all it was a great evening. the chemistry between us is like fireworks
Author alphamale Posted July 15, 2009 Author Posted July 15, 2009 and no i didn't play with her breasts although i could have :lmao:v:lmao:
Art_Critic Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 Well... You're a drinker too so all in all it sounds good.. but....... Alpha.. be careful.. A woman that gets "hammered" on a Tuesday night at a date dinner then takes the next day off work because of a hangover might not be the best type of a partner unless you plan on making drinking the center of everything you do together.. Just saying... be careful..
Lizzie60 Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 Poor Alpha.. you must be pretty desperate to settle for a woman who drinks.. come on I'm sure you can do much better.. Drop her like a hot potato.. she drinks too much (low class)... she is irresponsible (wanted to drive UI)... she almost passed out.. Geeeezzzz.. come on man!!!!
OpenBook Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 I think it's sweet, Alpha. You made out with her in the car:love: (ah, young love!!)... then you waited for her bro to show up and take her home:love:... and you didn't go for third base, even though you could have easily done it. I think you behaved like a true gentleman, Alpha, and I'm very happy for you!! :bunny: <---[Alpha and Susan]
Mary3 Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 ya so here's what happenedd yesterday Susan called me outta the blue around 2pm and we chatted. she asked if we could get together for dinner as a spur-of-the-moment thingy. i said yes and we picked a location. we had a nice dinner in a quite little italian place she frequents. it was romantic and we flirted and drank and ate. i was keeping count of the number of wines she had. after her fourth vino she ordered a fifth one and i told her she better not cause we both had to drive home. anyhoo, so she says to me "you cutting me off?!?" and i again re-iterated she shouldn't have another glass but she ordered it anyways. we were both pretty hammered by then cause i had had 3 very strong rum n cokes. we were at the restaurant for quite a while (around 4 hours) so its not like we drunk all that real quick. so we went back to her car and made out for around an hour...she was still pretty hammered and i told her not to drive. she said she was ok but i could visibly see she was pretty drunk. so we made out some more and again she said she was going to drive and again i told her not to. we made out some more. by now my lips were numb so she finally agreed she was too hammered to drive and she called her brother to come pick her up. it took him more than an hour to get there and i waited with her while she zonked out in the drivers seat. when her bro showed up it was funny explaining to him what happened. he must have thought i was a jamoke letting his sister get blitzed like that. anyways i just talked with her 30 minutes ago. shes ok but called in sick to work. apparently her perfect attendance record at work is now history but all in all it was a great evening. the chemistry between us is like fireworks She does sound very interested and she reminds me of what I would do if I liked a guy and ( felt he did too and I could comfortably invite him to dinner ) Awhh viva romance ! Do you think she has a drinking problem by chance ? Didn't the last date she get high on drink ? Hopefully she can come on to you without being blitzed. Did you notice if she gets all touchy friendly feely after shes been drinking or is she very affectionate stone cold sober ?Thats touchy about the drinking and driving thing. Maybe she feels she does not know you well enough that you can tell her to stop the drinking at dinner. I am GLAD you did convince her to not drive. Its kinda scarey that she has to be forced in some way to put down the drink and can't realize it for herself. I guess I would keep an eye on the drinking thing. Dont get too committed , keep your eyes open and if you see she is sloshing the vino down too much then I would not get deeply involved. Heartache if she does have a dependancy on the al~ke~hol ... So this making out in the car ...hrmmm....alot of that going on....I guess you guys can't find a place ? Glad you have the chemistry but like with any new date . You don't know her. Her bad habits , her possible addictions. I am just saying keep on eye on the drinking stuff.....hers might be chronic...
Author alphamale Posted July 15, 2009 Author Posted July 15, 2009 A woman that gets "hammered" on a Tuesday night at a date dinner then takes the next day off work because of a hangover might not be the best type of a partner unless you plan on making drinking the center of everything you do together.. Just saying... be careful.. it wasn't planned that way, we were just having so much fun together we forgot about everything else. and i'd rather be with a girl who likes to have fun than a bump on the log.... Drop her like a hot potato.. she drinks too much (low class)... she is irresponsible (wanted to drive UI)... she almost passed out.. she's not low class at all. she's a responsible professional with a real gucci handbag ....and she's very smart. but i do agree on the DUI thing.
carhill Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 Nice interlude.... How would you say her personality, when she's had some wine and is getting to the point of slurring her words, compares to when she's sober?
Mary3 Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 it wasn't planned that way, we were just having so much fun together we forgot about everything else. and i'd rather be with a girl who likes to have fun than a bump on the log.... she's not low class at all. she's a responsible professional with a real gucci handbag ....and she's very smart. but i do agree on the DUI thing. I agree with Art Critic . Yeah, you were having so much fun but the FUN is with eachother and the drink has no bearing and COULD you have fun or should I say could SHE have fun if you were just sitting there with virgin drinks and dinner ? Alcohol should not be the catalyst in this or any date you have with her. You said she frequents this restauraunt . Does she frequent the vino too ? The true measure is how you relate . Her getting sauced and extra friendly and sticking her tounge down your throat out in the car ( again ) is not exactly telling me she is a good girl. Well trust me you want a GOOD girl in PUBLIC but a bad girl in the bedroom.... Let me see you both do a picnic lunch for 3 hours with just cheese and soda . See how she reacts to life WITHOUT the brew....You must do that NOW because we dont want to see you 3 weeks from now desperately in love and your girl is passed out hammered. ( Didnt you say she was very hammered and passed out in your car on Tuesday night ? ) Ask her about her R's she had. Find out if anyone left her for being the drunk gucci carrying party girl. You can ignore this ALpha but trust me , if she is a drunk , better to talk to her about it NOW. Because the drunk stuff will come back to haunt you and make you an enabler . I wonder if she told her job she was too wasted and had a hangover ? Not...I bet...
Lizzie60 Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 it wasn't planned that way, we were just having so much fun together we forgot about everything else. and i'd rather be with a girl who likes to have fun than a bump on the log.... she's not low class at all. she's a responsible professional with a real gucci handbag ....and she's very smart. but i do agree on the DUI thing. A nice Gucci bag.. then why can't she afford a taxi.. instead of relying on her brother? A drunk woman is a low-class woman.. sorry Alpha..
Trialbyfire Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 alpha, just watch for repetitive negative behaviour. Getting sauced once, is no big deal, although it can be an indication of something more. It's like saying that a woman who puts out on the first date is nothing but a whore. Not necessarily true. It might be true but not necessarily. In essence, both are yellow flags. There isn't one person on the face of this Earth, who acts perfectly at all times or who is perfect. I guarantee that!!
Mary3 Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 Alpha , do you think given the right circumstances , lets say you were both parked behind a Kentucky Fried Chicken restauraunt , that she would have given you oral or went even further and done the deed ? Would the alcohol fueled sex have happened ? You said you wanted to touch her breasts . I have to honestly say I would not want to be sitting in a car with a guy groping my chest or my vageeen.....its just tacky to me. We should be very close and have found a quiet place to slowly make out. After each date more would happen. I would not want to get so touchy feely when I dont even know the guy. Alpha , you really dont know her. Think about that. She doesnt know you but she's making out with you in a car and drunk...
Art_Critic Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 Alpha.. I hope my post didn't start an onslaught of negative posts.. it wasn't meant to do that... My issue with the Alcohol is 2 fold.. one it was Tuesday night.. a work night.. normal drinkers normally don't let their drinking happen on the weekday or effect their job and the other is that she got drunk...getting drunk before you know someone is really a sign of either a bad case of nerves or someone that has trouble with getting drunk while drinking... I know you are a drinker too so in that respect you will have tolerance for partying.. Like I said.. be careful to watch to see if it was just a one time thing.. it might have been... Either way.. have fun..
lora22 Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 All this negativity about the drinking! I think a lot of people are making valid points, but coming on a little strong Sure, the drinking/driving thing and getting that wasted on a week night is irresponsible, so maybe keep an eye out, but that's it! Also...if Alpha is a drinker/party-er maybe she was trying to keep up or something? Not necessarily a good thing, but if she missed work because of it, maybe that's the end of it, if that were the case, lesson learned.
Author alphamale Posted July 15, 2009 Author Posted July 15, 2009 A drunk woman is a low-class woman.. sorry Alpha.. because the taxi ride to her house would have cost $100 cash, most don't take credit cards. and plus her brother has been sponging off her for a few years Alpha.. I hope my post didn't start an onslaught of negative posts.. it wasn't meant to do that... no we both just got caught up in the moment and let loose when we should not have. that's it. we hadn't seen each other in exactly two weeks and it just exploded like pure sodium in water
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