Surfer Dude Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 I know, right? What nonsense. Oh and if you listen to those PUA types, you'll be screwed. That crap may work on some of the 20 something girls but it will not work on a woman who isn't into drama in her relationships. Whatever, results speak for themselves and laws of reality exist whether you believe in it or not. Alpha, if you read reports on that site, you'll notice that nearly every lay that guy got, had the same MO: bar, extraction, lay. And I know tons of people who get laid with that MO, it's not a secret. It certainly works better than date-date2-date3-hope-for-sex. Paul Janka, a seducer who lives in NYC got over 150 lays just by asking women to a bar near his house and asking them to go to his place afterwards. Clearly, reality is that those things work. Whatever, you people have all the resources necessary to turn these messed up situations around, I'm officially packing my kilobytes from this forum.
lora22 Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 Whatever, results speak for themselves and laws of reality exist whether you believe in it or not. Alpha, if you read reports on that site, you'll notice that nearly every lay that guy got, had the same MO: bar, extraction, lay. And I know tons of people who get laid with that MO, it's not a secret. It certainly works better than date-date2-date3-hope-for-sex. Paul Janka, a seducer who lives in NYC got over 150 lays just by asking women to a bar near his house and asking them to go to his place afterwards. Clearly, reality is that those things work. Whatever, you people have all the resources necessary to turn these messed up situations around, I'm officially packing my kilobytes from this forum. Unless I missed the point, the OP likes this woman and is interested in her; he doesn't just wanna bust a nut.
carhill Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 FWIW, I don't think alpha has any problems getting laid. He knows how to do that. It's keeping a quality woman that is the challenge here, after she is identified as such. For today's call "Hey, xxx here. How are you?" I was thinking about you and thought I would call." She responds. " Oh, you're traveling today? Well, have a safe trip. I can talk to you when you get back" Listen for response. If she seems to want to talk a bit more, talk a bit more and then let her know you'll contact her when she returns and end the conversation pleasantly. Elapsed time 5-10 minutes tops. The key is consistency. Don't start with the 250.00 dinners and tongues in throats and then back off to the "I hardly know you" stance. Progression, not regression, is key to a stable relationship possibility. Be assertive but not pushy. Take the lead. You're an alpha
butcher's hook Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 Whatever, results speak for themselves and laws of reality exist whether you believe in it or not. The law of reality is that you are single and need online aids to get laid and you regurgitate crap from some site that states facts that appeal to simpletons, and a lot of us are in relationships getting regular sex. Which it would appear is what Alpha is aiming for, not a bar trollop pick up. I am sure he can do just fine in that department.
Surfer Dude Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 The law of reality is that you are single and need online aids to get laid and you regurgitate crap from some site that states facts that appeal to simpletons, and a lot of us are in relationships getting regular sex. Which it would appear is what Alpha is aiming for, not a bar trollop pick up. I am sure he can do just fine in that department. Never said he should be picking up women in bars, I simply stated that having better logistics and dating strategy would work much more in his favor. And yes I'm not getting laid.. in fact, I play dungeon and dragons in my basement all day, fantasizing about picking up women and spouting advice that I've never even bothered to put to test... I mean, really, what was I thinking? Ugh! Since you revealed my true identity, I have no choice but to hide in shame and talk to my imaginary girlfriend, while all your people are getting laid
Author alphamale Posted July 7, 2009 Author Posted July 7, 2009 Was she happy or responsive when you told her you would call? seemed to be What was your thought when you first posted this? i don't really know. i wish i could delete this thread now. Paul Janka, a seducer who lives in NYC got over 150 lays just by asking women to a bar near his house and asking them to go to his place afterwards. Clearly, reality is that those things work. dude, we're talking about people in their 40s here, not 21 year olds Unless I missed the point, the OP likes this woman and is interested in her; he doesn't just wanna bust a nut. quite The key is consistency. Don't start with the 250.00 dinners and tongues in throats and then back off to the "I hardly know you" stance. Progression, not regression, is key to a stable relationship possibility. Be assertive but not pushy. Take the lead. You're an alpha everything is progressing fine so far. i just get nervous when i meet someone that I really like and click with and who i think feels the same. its just the uncertainty thats getting to me. my mind tells me that she likes me but my past experience tells me that anything can happen. if, and when, i get to sleep with her then that will be the true test of her feelings...
Touche Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 Look, I'm not even going to respond to Surfer Dude. I mean really. What can you say to that nonsense. As for you, it pains me to say this, but I actually think you're doing fine. Call her like you told her you would. Keep it light but warm, if that makes sense and then pick up where you left off when she gets back.
kizik Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 I'm charmed by the rivalry between old-time users Alpha and Touche.
Touche Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 I'm charmed by the rivalry between old-time users Alpha and Touche. OH shut up, you! ahaha. Uhm, yeah.
kizik Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 Seriously, it's entertaining. He's a player, and you hate players. Comedy gold! I am writing the pilot as we speak.
Touche Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 Seriously, it's entertaining. He's a player, and you hate players. Comedy gold! I am writing the pilot as we speak. Oh PUHLEEZE! ARe you serious? He's a "playa" like I'm a paid escort. No way. I never thought he was a player. That's just an act.
kizik Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 Love it! Keep the bad blood boiling. That's crazy, I never knew you were a paid escort.
Citizen Erased Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 Unless I missed the point, the OP likes this woman and is interested in her; he doesn't just wanna bust a nut. :lmao:
Touche Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 Love it! Keep the bad blood boiling. That's crazy, I never knew you were a paid escort. You're such a pot stirrer, Kiz. Are you trying to make up for the lack of pot-stirrers who have been suspended as of late? Oh and there's no "bad blood" where Alpha's concerned. (Just because we'd never want to run into each in a dark alley....)
Mary3 Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 This is all SO DAMN WRONG. First dude, stop taking dating advice from women because they don't know what the hell they're talking about. It's societal programming talking through them. Susan probably also says she likes "a nice guy to take her on a nice dinner" but once that happens she is disgusted with such spineless guys (no offense to you). You screwed yourself over by supplicating and spending sh*tloads of money on boring interview-type dinner dates (or should I say auditions). Dinners are reserved for women you are already having positive, respectful and intimate relationships with. The rest are just friends and we don't try to buy our friends with money and dinners! That's what all other lame guys do, and we don't have to be like them, right? Here's a good link for you, about what NOT to do when trying to date a woman: http://www.pickupguide.com/badpu1.htm The rest of stuff on that site is just gold Here's a quote: Here's how to do it properly: 1. Call her, get her to come to a bar in your area 2. Set up a meeting for something like 9-10pm 3. Have a drink 4. Extract her from there back to your place for more drinks 5. Seal the deal So what did we learn today? NO DINNERS BEFORE SEX. Such total garbage. You are more likely to snag some romance if you DO take a girl to dinner than propping her up on a bar stool feeding her drinks. Its not the amount of dinner ( I already told Alpha the dinner tab was 5 times what it should have been ) Could she lose respect if he is dropping benjamins on the first night ? Absolutely. She may wonder why he drops a load of gold on a first date. It reeks possible desperation to make an effect, when in reality, a normal dinner will impress her ( the reality is no amount of dinner expense is going to make her go ga ga over Alpha ) He either * has it * and what it takes or he doesn't. Would he be considered spineless and over the top by doing what he did ? Absolutely. Why does this have to be about possibly banging her that night ? Why can't this be about forming a relationship ? A VERY smart man WOULD be on this site listening to women because when its all said and done , all those Don Juan sites on how to get laid , well most of these guys ARE NOT GETTING LAID and are spewing garbage to other saps making it far WORSE. The BEST thing he can do is listen to what women have to say. YOU aren't going to bone the guys on the site are ya ? Um no , so why listen to that junk ? Who's getting LAID ? Guys that dont rely on those sites and act natural. Sure there are opportunistic women out there. Gold diggers. Users. Get beyond your own head ( both of them ) and realize women DO like to be courted , ROMANCED , loved and treated special. Until you GET THAT you will frequent those LAME sites.
lora22 Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 :lmao: I assume I missed something about this OP or Alpha in general?
Touche Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 I assume I missed something about this OP or Alpha in general? Not really.
Citizen Erased Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 I assume I missed something about this OP or Alpha in general? No, I found the expression "bust a nut" delightful. You were spot on with what you said.
lora22 Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 :lmao: No, I found the expression "bust a nut" delightful. You were spot on with what you said. LoL, ok
Land Shark Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 you should make a voodoo doll and call the voodoo doll while Susan is in NJ that wouldn't work as i'd have to make a very small functioning voodoo cell phone Call the doll?! Come on! There are other things you could do to the doll that would be much more effective, if voodoo has any power at all. Think about it.
Surfer Dude Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 / CUT Sorry to disturb your world view. I'll let you get back to believing the world is flat and the tooth fairy exists. Btw, about being impressed by dinner... interestingly, the only thing women are TRULY impressed with are mindblowing orgasms. How come people always fail to see the obvious?
Touche Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 Sorry to disturb your world view. I'll let you get back to believing the world is flat and the tooth fairy exists. Btw, about being impressed by dinner... interestingly, the only thing women are TRULY impressed with are mindblowing orgasms. How come people always fail to see the obvious? You're ridiculous. Fancy dinners are great but if you "don't got game" you're toast. Doesn't matter about the dinner.
Surfer Dude Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 You're ridiculous. Fancy dinners are great but if you "don't got game" you're toast. Doesn't matter about the dinner. And if you actually bothered to read my last few posts, you'd actually see that's exactly what I was saying. Now, reading is hard, isn't it?
Touche Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 And if you actually bothered to read my last few posts, you'd actually see that's exactly what I was saying. Now, reading is hard, isn't it? Obviously, you have trouble reading between the lines or picking up on the subtleties. "Got game" means different things to different people now doesn't it?
lora22 Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 interestingly, the only thing women are TRULY impressed with are mindblowing orgasms. Not really, since we can pretty much always do that for ourselves better than a man ever could.
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