Lyssa Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Because some women (and perhaps men) seek emotional stimulation through confrontation. It has to do with horniness that they don't know how to express. Ever seen those old movies from the 50s? Like, a woman starts yelling and throwing stuff at Clark Gable, slaps him... he slaps her back, they make out and have hot passionate sex. I'm not saying we should be hitting people, but you get the point. Confrontation is what some people desire. Well then some people are just plain stupid! Yeah I get the point and I've seen a few of those scenes in movies from the 80s an 90s too. Gee, things haven't changed hey!
Woggle Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 First time ever that I agree with you, Woggle. I too, do not understand why some people thrive on playing games. It's a waste of time and I usually discard those who play games with me. If only more women thought like that. I think that some women and some men to a smaller extent are completely incapable of having a healthy and normal relationship.
Lyssa Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 If only more women thought like that. I think that some women and some men to a smaller extent are completely incapable of having a healthy and normal relationship. There is a lot of women on LS (as I know there is in RL as well) that think the same way, Woggle. Yeah, some people are incapable of leading a healthy, normal relationship. They are just too selfish to ommit to that.
Jersey Shortie Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 As usual, the dearth of negative opinions about women in this thread prevails. Thanks "Gentlemen" for your extremely low opinion of the female gender. It's so unfortunate that you must be graced with our inferior presence. Too bad we are human beings just like you with feelings and desires. But really, why should that matter to you because obviously you as a man are worlds more important then any woman. I really think that many of you forget that women are infact human beings. Well let me remind you, we are infact human beings. And frankly, I am sick of the conatations of many of you that men are so "good", "fair" and "just" and women are cold hearted witches. Because frankly, that opinion only hurts *YOU* at the end of the day. Too bad you can't look into yourself and realize that your issues with the other sex has nothing to do with the other sex and has everything to do with you and your imperfections and own issues. But that would be admitting a weakness and we know that men rather hide behind a facade of tough guy then ever admit the truth of his inability sometimes to make things right. Too bad you can't just date other men since that's apparently what you really want. You don't want to learn anything about women and you don't want to really listen to the women here telling you the truth based on how they feel about things and their life experiences. You certainly don't want to be able to develop the skills to give a woman what she really needs. The majority of you seem to want to forge together to support your negative opinions of the other half of the population of the world. Good luck with that. All in all, not one lady here really cares if you want to live the life of a "playboy". But don't sit there and condemn all women and tell them their needs are irrelevant while you tout the power of your own. Sam Spade: The problem is that for many men captivity seems to start with seemingly innocent sacrifices, until one day they wake up disgusting suburban dads with timid smiles and crocs on their feet. I am extra vigilant not to make too many "small sacrifices" in the name of a relationship. Indeed, I don't even want my future wife and kids to "like" me, but I'll make sure that they respect me, and as long as that holds true, I'll be a model father and husband. Sounds like you would make your own family miserable just so you could feel like you had some small sense of control and respect out of fear. And honestly, it's not the small sacrfices that are necessary by both a woman and MAN that hurt men. If you can't even be giving of yourself enough to make small sacrifices for your family without feeling like it makes you less of a man, how can your family possibly count on you to be there on the big stuff? The real issue is that that men become lazy. It's that men loose their heart. And that has nothing to do with how many times he has to drive Timmy and Jane to baseball practice or if he has to pick up his own clothes because godforbid, his wife might need help. If men have timid smiles on their faces and no passion, it's not because of his wife and family. It's because of himself. My cousin and her husband recently just had a baby. they have three little girls now and he is a little out numbered. This man does everything he can for his family. He makes small and big sacrifices everyday. And my cousin loves him and those little girls think their daddy is the greatest. So if you aren't able to be giving of yourself, that's fine. But to go to the extreme in saying you rather make your own family miserable to the extent that you don't care if they like you just so you can maintain some sense of control, that's pretty sad for your own family. samspade Most women say a lot of things, and do the complete opposite. You can talk all you want about what women praise or say they are looking for, but anyone with an ounce of intelligence knows to watch what people do rather than listen to what they say - especially females. Yeah you're right Sam Spade. Women want men that treat them like crap and are always going behing their back to bang other women or lust after them. Ridiculous. The fact is that evolution rewards male promiscuity, not monogamy, and those subconscious triggers exist whether we choose to suppress them or not. The same can be said of female promiscuity, but to a lesser degree, as a female also must look for (and keep) a "provider" to ensure her offspring survive. There is a huge chunk of science you are leaving out on both sides. If we are going to go strictly on science, the best option for women would be to find the man that has the best genes then find the man who is the best provider, since it's not always the same guy. Would you advocate more women follow science and biology then? Since that is what woudl be best for the population and survival? Also, evolution doesn't reward male promiscuity. Birth defects, stds, HIV, children that are left unsupported with a key male role model in their life, these are all systems of of sexually promisuous society. If you are going to argue the good, please be aware enough to recognize the bad. If men want to run around "spreading their seed", don't complain when both women and children don't give a crap anymore if daddy isn't around. Because that exactly the state of soceity we are in now. Alot of times "daddy" doesn't stick around. And women needing to do what they can to survive, and children needing to do the same, have found a way to adapt to make "daddy" seem unimportant in their lives. If you think that is what is good for the population, so be it. I certainly don't. I have talked to a few men that seem to think society disrespects them. That women and even children don't respect them. How do you expect women and children to respect you as a man if you can't stand up and really be one?
lino Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 To answer the OP: Yes, most men would prefer that lifestyle. Do I? Not really but then again I'm no where near as old as Hefner or b********i and I'll never be as rich or powerful as either one so I can't say for sure what I'd do if I was in their positions. At this stage my only real goal is to have a woman who loves and respects me a much as I do her. You and I both know you could fill volumes of books with the disparity between what a woman says she wants and what she actually wants. Just look around on Loveshack and you'll find plenty of evidence. But if you don't believe me, go to a battered women's shelter. How many women tell their friends they want to date men who physically endanger them to within an inch of their lives? Yet they're out there, legions of women who date - and actually stay with - men who abuse them physically and verbally. That's to say nothing of the millions of Western women who claim they want a "nice, sweet guy" and turn around and date one jerk after another (another common theme in these pages). Or, for a third example, try the Second Chances forum, and you'll find plenty of women who tell guys "go try and win her back" after the poor sap's been dumped; these women would throw up in their mouths if their ex boyfriends (whom they dumped) tried the same. No absolutes, plenty of exceptions, but that's the norm, and it's why I advise men to seek advice about women from men who are successful with women. And it's not that I believe women are being deceitful or duplicitious. I think they're usually answering forthrightly, but I believe that there is still a gap between what they say and what they do (and I accept it and work within it). Very well said.
samspade Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 If we are going to go strictly on science, the best option for women would be to find the man that has the best genes then find the man who is the best provider, since it's not always the same guy. I AGREE with this and stated it as the reason behind why most women cheat. Also, evolution doesn't reward male promiscuity. Birth defects, stds, HIV, children that are left unsupported with a key male role model in their life, these are all systems of of sexually promisuous society. From a strictly evolutionary standpoint, it behooves a man to spread his seed as far and a wide as possible. Women select men for reproduction (excluding rape), and it's no secret that the most promiscuous men (logically) get the most ass - they are the men whom women select for their genes. And, as noted above, females will stray from their "provider male" if it means reproducing with an alpha. What you're forgetting is that in modern times, these encounters don't necessarily lead to babies. Just because a condom is worn doesn't mean that the biological motivation isn't there. When a male and female have sex, on a subconscious, reptilian level, they are mating. On the surface, they are enjoying sex, whether it be to have kids or to have an orgasm. And even in the case of a woman cheating, if it DOES lead to offspring, usually the husband will assume it's his; the woman has escaped any culpability. This is why I recommend paternity tests, especially if there is a divorce. A man should not get stuck paying for a baby that isn't his. And yes, I will agree that what is good for evolution is not necessarily good for society. Humans were also endowed with scruples and moral judgment, which is why cheaters and sluts are still castigated for acting on their impulses. But I don't believe that a SINGLE man, who practices safe sex (thus minimizing the risk of disease or pregnancy), sleeping with many women (or men) over his lifetime is morally bankrupt. If he were to impregnate a woman, then he should take responsibility. Ditto if he contracts a disease. If you want to start a thread about diseased deadbeat dads, go ahead, but that is not what I am talking about here. I'm talking about men who choose to be single, and enjoy safe sex, and don't want to "settle down" with one partner. This is what is referred to as a "playboy" lifestyle, which (depending on your view) is either a term of derision or of respect. And this may surprise you, but many WOMEN choose not to settle down, as well. So, to conclude, despite your tearing apart of your own personal straw men, it is an individual's prerogative to live the life he or she chooses, and the wonders of modern science have allowed us to enjoy sex with the minimal risk of dealing with its consequences. If you want to find a husband and start a family, good for you. There's no need to begrudge a man or a woman for wanting to enjoy the company of many partners if he/she plays it safe.
clv0116 Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 I AGREE with this and stated it as the reason behind why most women cheat. This never makes sense to me, a lot of people say it because it's trendy to believe but the idea assumes a lot of facts that there's no evidence to support. From a strictly evolutionary standpoint, it behooves a man to spread his seed as far and a wide as possible. Again, same complaint as above. For example, this might be one minority reproductive strategy but I don't see it standing on it's own.
sally4sara Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 I am stunned (well not really stunned) to read so much rape propaganda in this thread. Don't listen to a woman's words? They never say what they mean? I bet it's surprise sex for you then yeah? There is a bunch of tripe and generalization being thrown around in here that is so obviously gleaned from those creepy PUA sites. You know the ones that tell you to eat at her sense of security till she is fooled into thinking YOU are better than her and willing to sleep with you. Then there are the guys weighing in who only deal with much younger girls. Of course you guys think women make no sense! You date naive children that respond to the PUA crap! It doesn't prove anyone right. It just proves you are only as lucky as your target is insecure and naive. Honorable gentleman indeed! I got a heaping example of how NOT so honorable men are - even with other men last night. Guy on his cell saw me and my man come out of our apartment. I had the laundry and my fiance had the dog. There are two ways to get to the laundry room and we all know the dogs are not to go inside there. I took the easy way and my fiance took the dog around the block. By the time I got there, the guy on his cell had gone around back of the building, ran through the trails, through the garages, up an embankment, and was waiting for me at the laundry room! Big old cheeser grin on his face "hey baby girl" trying to holler at me! He had to have known my fiance and I were together we were hand in hand coming out of the building. I called him a kingsnake and said to leave me alone. He started acting shocked asking what my problem was.....you disrespect me, my man, and our relationship and you want to know what MY problem is? He knew damn well what I was upset about! What a straight shooter! And this is common. So trust, if you want a REAL portrayal of your average man; ask a woman. Men are fake to each other. And their PUA attempts are easy to see through for grown women. The PUA guys come on here and talk so loud because they are trying to convince themselves as much as they want to convince others. My uncle IS the confirmed bachelor and he would never bother participating in these kinds of threads, let alone talk of women the way some of you guys do. What would be the point? How would it serve him?
Surfer Dude Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Sally... starting a lifestyle of PU is a gateway to an enlightened world for any man... and for the women he dates. Morals are simply human constructs that hold no value in ultimate reality - the cosmos. And reality exists with it's own laws, whether you believe in it or not. We are starstuff that after 5 billion years of evolution has the ability to know itself and question it's own existence. Why bother then with morals and jumping through societal hoops? The way of nature is the only thing that matters. Good day to you all!
sally4sara Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Sally... starting a lifestyle of PU is a gateway to an enlightened world for any man... and for the women he dates. Morals are simply human constructs that hold no value in ultimate reality - the cosmos. And reality exists with it's own laws, whether you believe in it or not. We are starstuff that after 5 billion years of evolution has the ability to know itself and question it's own existence. Why bother then with morals and jumping through societal hoops? The way of nature is the only thing that matters. Good day to you all! Oh make me barf! I can tell SOMEONE has no little sister or daughter. If you did and you found out her new BF got all his advise from one of those disgusting sites, you'd change your tune. I told you before but I doubt you'll get it this time either. Go anywhere and you will find that everyone you meet, both male and female, spend each day being alpha, beta, successful, weak, extrovert, introvert, greedy, generous, sneaky, and honest. It is in everyone. No one is any one thing. All this alpha/beta crap is just a short cut to thinking. You're talking like one of those guys who thinks they live in a continuous loop of "West Side Story". And its all an act with no integrity. You walk off stage and everyone gets folded up and loaded into a stage trunk till you need them as props again. You think women are just sitting around doing nothing till Alpha Man walks in. Then its all "I Feel Pretty" and a dance number? Word up - they have lives too and things going on and really don't care about Alpha Man and how alpha he is unless that is what they were already focused on to begin with.
Jersey Shortie Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Sally... starting a lifestyle of PU is a gateway to an enlightened world for any man... and for the women he dates. Morals are simply human constructs that hold no value in ultimate reality - the cosmos. And reality exists with it's own laws, whether you believe in it or not. We are starstuff that after 5 billion years of evolution has the ability to know itself and question it's own existence. Why bother then with morals and jumping through societal hoops? The way of nature is the only thing that matters. Good day to you all! Surfer Dude, I rather doubt that most people here think the way you choose to live your life leaves you more enlightened then your committed brethren. I respect your right to live your life how you wish. But when you speak in absolutes about the human condition, what brings "enlightment" and the only "right" way to live life is through ignoring basic ideals of moral, that's over the top hyperbole. You seem to forget that while human beings don't jump through societal hoops only to conform to a set of morals you describe as being unnatural but because the desire to be inherently "good", and do the right thing can be just as natural a drive as doing the supposed "wrong thing". No one here thinks your wrong for living your life as you please. But living a life that at all costs brings you pleasure and hurts those around you on the shirt-tails that the idea of morality is a smokescreen is foolish. Morals have come about because people have a strong sense of good and bad, good and evil of donig the "right" thing or the wrong. That is *natural*. Because people have so many diverse needs and purposes and to break it down to your bain over-explotation of the pleasure principal does an injustice to yourself first. And as Sally said, I am also stunned by the lack of real converation many of the men here don't really seem to want to have with women. Instead they want to overide and stamp their feet like little boys instead of exchanging ideas and listening to the other gender speak of their side.
Taramere Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 living a life that at all costs brings you pleasure and hurts those around you on the shirt-tails that the idea of morality is a smokescreen is foolish. Hypocritical is the word I'd use. Unless the person in question is content for others around them (parents, siblings, friends, colleagues etc) to also be free of morals, and unless they're content to take the inevitable hit from other people lacking a moral code. My guess would be that most people who flounce around declaring themselves to be philosophical aristocrats who are beyond common definitions of morality will discover that they actually have a very decent set of moral standards.... right about the time they find themselves reliant on other people behaving in a kind and moral manner.
clv0116 Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 .... Morals are simply human constructs that hold no value in ultimate reality .... The way of nature is the only thing that matters. Morals and other social 'human constructs' come from a formalization of behaviors that work to promote human success. They are expressions of viable solutions to survival within the so called 'way of nature'. Then there are the guys weighing in who only deal with much younger girls. Of course you guys think women make no sense! You date naive children ... Well I date from 18 to around 30, usually 22 or so to around 28 or so. I don't consider them children, they seem OK to me. Your complaint sounds a lot like the wailing of many women who feel for whatever reason that men who show them disinterest are doing so due to some flaw on the mans part. It can't possibly be that they are just not attractive to those men, no sir! I'm not sure I want to take advice on successful human interaction from someone who lives in a ****ty apartment with a man and at least one dog. That just sounds like a really ghetto life to me. It's like a trailer park resident with 3 broken cars in the front yard, not someone I'd turn to for life advice without knowing a lot more about their qualifications.
sally4sara Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 I'm not sure I want to take advice on successful human interaction from someone who lives in a ****ty apartment with a man and at least one dog. That just sounds like a really ghetto life to me. It's like a trailer park resident with 3 broken cars in the front yard, not someone I'd turn to for life advice without knowing a lot more about their qualifications. I live in Bethesda MD you twit!:lmao: I guarantee you my apartment payment is twice what most people's house payment comes to. It is four times more than the house I lived in back home. The ghetto is on the other side of town. As usual, you don't know what you're talking about. But I still hope someday you wind up deserving a grown equal partner who is willing to tell off a guy who disrespects the relationship you have with her.
sally4sara Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Surfer Dude, I rather doubt that most people here think the way you choose to live your life leaves you more enlightened then your committed brethren. I respect your right to live your life how you wish. But when you speak in absolutes about the human condition, what brings "enlightment" and the only "right" way to live life is through ignoring basic ideals of moral, that's over the top hyperbole. You seem to forget that while human beings don't jump through societal hoops only to conform to a set of morals you describe as being unnatural but because the desire to be inherently "good", and do the right thing can be just as natural a drive as doing the supposed "wrong thing". No one here thinks your wrong for living your life as you please. But living a life that at all costs brings you pleasure and hurts those around you on the shirt-tails that the idea of morality is a smokescreen is foolish. Morals have come about because people have a strong sense of good and bad, good and evil of donig the "right" thing or the wrong. That is *natural*. Because people have so many diverse needs and purposes and to break it down to your bain over-explotation of the pleasure principal does an injustice to yourself first. And as Sally said, I am also stunned by the lack of real converation many of the men here don't really seem to want to have with women. Instead they want to overide and stamp their feet like little boys instead of exchanging ideas and listening to the other gender speak of their side. Well said Jersey! Isn't it weird how obvious it was without any admittance, that his philosophy was from one of those PUA sites that teaches you YES! You DO suck! Here is how to be someone you're not instead! :lmao: Enlightened! :lmao:
Taramere Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Well said Jersey! Isn't it weird how obvious it was without any admittance, that his philosophy was from one of those PUA sites that teaches you YES! You DO suck! Here is how to be someone you're not instead! This man? (see how I know all the terminology? I have far too much time on my hands right now.)
Jersey Shortie Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 I'm not sure I want to take advice on successful human interaction from someone who lives in a ****ty apartment with a man and at least one dog. That just sounds like a really ghetto life to me. It's like a trailer park resident with 3 broken cars in the front yard, not someone I'd turn to for life advice without knowing a lot more about their qualifications. No offense but I don't find people that live in nice apartments all that more enlightened. They might have an attitude that fringes intelligence, but doesn't mean that just because someone has a a penthouse apartment that they are someone you should be taking advice from either.
clv0116 Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 The ghetto is on the other side of town. And yet you find yourself walking to a laundry room with your SO and a dog in tow. Nice. Kingsnake indeed.
clv0116 Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Well said Jersey! Isn't it weird how obvious it was without any admittance, that his philosophy was from one of those PUA sites .... So he was denied entry someplace then?
sally4sara Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 And yet you find yourself walking to a laundry room with your SO and a dog in tow. Nice. Kingsnake indeed. Sorry, but I use my utility closet for my silk screening. No room for W/D. Go back and READ, no dog in laundry room, esp in Bethesda! You have no idea how silly you sound what with you not knowing anything about the area I live in. Your just mad, which is weird, since I didn't say anything about you. In fact up till today, I couldn't read your posts! I'm using a laptop we're re formatting for a friend and showed them LS without signing in. YOU seem to have taken a really weird amount of offense to comments I've made that didn't have anything directed your way.... So odd! Why would that be? I've never been one to say men shouldn't date younger than they are if that is the kind of person they choose to date. I am doing it myself! But I do recognize that it can end up with the younger person being very naive by comparison unless they are a very intelligent exception. Yet you are ALL kinds of bunched up about my comments. Again comments that were not aimed at you at all. Hrrmmmm. I wonder what it is I could've said that got so burrowed under your sensitive skin. Maybe you not only needed to get advice from silly PUA sites and still cannot get a real peer to date you! My pardons! But not my fault!
Surfer Dude Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Oh make me barf! I can tell SOMEONE has no little sister or daughter. If you did and you found out her new BF got all his advise from one of those disgusting sites, you'd change your tune. You're right, I don't have a daughter or sister. Still, if I did have, I wouldn't judge them for wanting sex with a guy they like... Surfer Dude, I rather doubt that most people here think the way you choose to live your life leaves you more enlightened then your committed brethren. I respect your right to live your life how you wish. But when you speak in absolutes about the human condition, what brings "enlightment" and the only "right" way to live life is through ignoring basic ideals of moral, that's over the top hyperbole. No, let's conform to the social matrix and bullsh*t ideas they managed to instill into us. I'm sure that people are much happier in this world than if they made their dreams come true. Oh sh*t, it's 21st century and marriage no longer guarantees stability and a good environment to raise children. That's why I don't care about useless outdated structures like marriage. You seem to forget that while human beings don't jump through societal hoops only to conform to a set of morals you describe as being unnatural but because the desire to be inherently "good", and do the right thing can be just as natural a drive as doing the supposed "wrong thing". Yes, some things are hardwired into us. Empathy for instance. But BS norms invented by our culture and tradition certainly aren't. Human beings are inherently "good". It's society and so called "culture" that makes people hate and kill each other, instead of teaching people how to love unconditionally. We send young boys to the desert to kill human beings instead of teaching them how to make love. And that's all product of this "civilized society" (both western and others). Besides, biological hardwiring always overrides social programming. Just imagine a guy, who makes you feel really good... you share a really deep connection. Society tells you you should refrain from sex. They try to take power away from you. But you like the guy so much, the desire to connect is stronger than anything... the guy wants you and you want him. You have sex and experience the most wonderful thing in the world, making love. It's awesome isn't it? And here it is, nature beat the programmings. And imagine that on consistent basis, with no social judgment, repercussions and name calling (women especially suffer in this department). Wouldn't that be a perfect world? No one here thinks your wrong for living your life as you please. But living a life that at all costs brings you pleasure and hurts those around you on the shirt-tails that the idea of morality is a smokescreen is foolish.Sh*t, my lifestyle hurts people around me. No it doesn't. Perhaps it only hurts people who aren't getting what they want from me (compliance). And as Sally said, I am also stunned by the lack of real converation many of the men here don't really seem to want to have with women. Instead they want to overide and stamp their feet like little boys instead of exchanging ideas and listening to the other gender speak of their side.Just because someone doesn't agree with your view on the world, he inherently lacks ability to have a conversation? That's an extremely selfish and immature statement. Well said Jersey! Isn't it weird how obvious it was without any admittance, that his philosophy was from one of those PUA sites that teaches you YES! You DO suck! Here is how to be someone you're not instead! :lmao: Enlightened! :lmao: Surely I can be who I really am if I conform to societal norms and submit to women's "needs"? hahaha... The only women's needs I care about are sex and emotional satisfaction. Incidentally, those are the only things that truly matter. Societal overlords don't want you to see that, because if people found out that sex and love is enough to live a happy life, this society would crumble: all the sexless worker drones would stop slaving for their companies, banks and mortgage firms would bankrupt because people wouldn't need worthless material possessions anymore etc. Give a man/woman unrestricted, unhindered love and sex, and he/she will be free of all societal chains. Call me an idealist if you will, but that's what I am.. a romantic idealist See, just because someone has a different life philosophy than you doesn't make it wrong. Or right. Only different. The only right thing is the one that makes your life worth living. And somehow I doubt most people are happy in this society... just look at all these threads here... As for PU community, many guys there are somewhat misogynist and I don't really buy into their misogynist views. They have good technical skills though. Surfer dude over and out
clv0116 Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 On topic, there is enough BS in this thread to float an Aircraft Carrier. People are citing all sorts of 'evolutionary bio' pop-sci BS and not bothering to really discuss any of it. Really entertaining. Sorry, but I use my utility closet for my silk screening. No room for W/D. Why not use a spare bedroom or one of your empty garages, or the workshop or repurpose the game room if you don't shoot biliards? Go back and READ, no dog in laundry room, esp in Bethesda! I admit, I did assume the dog was actually living in the apartment with you, which means either (1) I assumed wrong and you have it boarded or (2) your community has higher standards for it's shared laundry room than you enforce for your domicile. You have no idea how silly you sound what with you not knowing anything about the area I live in. Your just mad, which is weird, since I didn't say anything about you. In fact up till today, I couldn't read your posts! I'm using a laptop we're re formatting for a friend and showed them LS without signing in. YOU seem to have taken a really weird amount of offense to comments I've made that didn't have anything directed your way.... No, I just started laughing like a hyena when someone who takes herself so seriously starts telling how she called someone a 'kingsnake' who tried to speak to her in the communal laundry room. Thanks for the moment.
sally4sara Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Surely I can be who I really am if I conform to societal norms and submit to women's "needs"? hahaha... The only women's needs I care about are sex and emotional satisfaction. Incidentally, those are the only things that truly matter. Societal overlords don't want you to see that, because if people found out that sex and love is enough to live a happy life, this society would crumble: all the sexless worker drones would stop slaving for their companies, banks and mortgage firms would bankrupt because people wouldn't need worthless material possessions anymore etc. Give a man/woman unrestricted, unhindered love and sex, and he/she will be free of all societal chains. Call me an idealist if you will, but that's what I am.. a romantic idealist See, just because someone has a different life philosophy than you doesn't make it wrong. Or right. Only different. The only right thing is the one that makes your life worth living. And somehow I doubt most people are happy in this society... just look at all these threads here... As for PU community, many guys there are somewhat misogynist and I don't really buy into their misogynist views. They have good technical skills though. Surfer dude over and out I had much more respect for your input when I thought you were on this thread speaking as a person who had chosen a path that differed from the norm. I respected you more when I though you had convictions for your choices and the ability to stand by them despite "normal" folks' protests. But then you killed it for me when you admitted that you have no convictions, but rather an inability to delay gratification and call it being "enlightened" rather than simply being an over indulged bore. You have chosen no path other than your next immediate whim and do not put in the work to ensure your mental, sexual , or reproductive health - let alone that of anyone you pretend to care for for the night. You do not live an enlightened life; you live the life any young ego driven person who can qualify for "groomed" or "fairly decent looking" can and does live everyday. Its not a bad thing but please, spare us all who've already realized this, the whole "enlightened" speech. It just makes you sound bratty.
sally4sara Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Really angsty words due to an overwhelming sense of jealousy towards anyone who has found happiness with a true partner and a contented place in life - WHY CAN'T I FIND LOVE TOOOOOOO! WOW, you're going back on ignore. You're so desperate to try and find some imperfection in the lives of others - which is silly and sad because the imperfections just ARE for everyone. 1 beautiful boy, 1 amazing man, 1 wonderful dog, all completely in love with me and you are sooooo bothered by this? You must have a real crap situation for this to get you so upset!
clv0116 Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 1 beautiful boy, 1 amazing man, 1 wonderful dog, all completely in love with me and you are sooooo bothered by this? I'm amused by people who are eager to tell the 'world' how wonderful their life is, particularly when their own actions as related in their own words show such a lack of class. Arguments started with strangers in a shared laundry space. Stay classy.
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