Author redant Posted June 26, 2009 Author Posted June 26, 2009 There's some great insight here!! Thanks!!
Asami Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 I went out with one - not knowing he was one (that's why he's a playboy ) and it was one of the most painful experiences I've encountered. Give me a real man - anytime! I'm lucky to be with one now! I agree, I know this thread is for the guys ,but I'm definately not into playboys.. for the reasons you pointed above:p
Woggle Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 Most husbands know exactly what the score is and where they stand. You come home, hand over your paycheck... and dance like a puppet. Of course they did! All three of them are just dolled up whores. Who else would date Heph? Let me share a secret with you.... The top reason guys have those fantasies, is because they are not getting any at home or their wives threat them like dirt. There are some men who actually think their wife loves and cherishes them and then are shocked when she turns on him.
Nightmare Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 There are some men who actually think their wife loves and cherishes them and then are shocked when she turns on him. I second that!
You'reasian Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Perhaps if it wasnt well known that a lot of men secretly want to be wh*ores, you would attract more women who wont BE wh*ores. Correction. We guys want to attract monogamous, yet oh-so horny women. Big difference.
samspade Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 It's not that all men want to be playboys. What's good for the PM of Italy is not necessarily good for Joe Schmo in St. Louis. What every man should aspire for is to live his life HIS way. From a romantic standpoint, if that means marrying one woman or sleeping with 1,000, that should be his prerogative, regardless of the manufactured societal pressures to do one thing or another. Unfortunately, too many men refuse to take the reins in their own lives, and as such they become pussified husbands or partners to the kind of succubi that make them (the men) jealous of the "Playboy" lifestyle. We don't necessarily know whether Hugh Hefner is more fulfilled with his life than a married, monogamous man with two kids. Which man is living the life he truly set out to live? Conventional wisdom has it that Mr. Hefner is a happy man, but just because he projects that image does not make it so. (I'm willing to wager that he is satisfied, since he controls his wealth and is not afraid to show any woman the door.) Anyone - man or woman - should ask himself or herself: Can I walk away? If you're confident and independent enough to know that you can, congratulations. You are miles ahead of most human beings, who are all too willing to let a domineering partner (or boss, or relative, etc.) control their pathetic lives. If being a playboy is what you want, don't married. If being a family man is what you want, don't dick around. Be the man you want to be. (I'm assuming the PM of Italy is married, so I'm reticent to use him as an example. He should get a divorce if he wants 18-year-old poon.)
Author redant Posted June 27, 2009 Author Posted June 27, 2009 I really like your response Sam. Makes alot of sense. "Be the man ( or woman) you want to be." Cool.
Woggle Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 It's not that all men want to be playboys. What's good for the PM of Italy is not necessarily good for Joe Schmo in St. Louis. What every man should aspire for is to live his life HIS way. From a romantic standpoint, if that means marrying one woman or sleeping with 1,000, that should be his prerogative, regardless of the manufactured societal pressures to do one thing or another. Unfortunately, too many men refuse to take the reins in their own lives, and as such they become pussified husbands or partners to the kind of succubi that make them (the men) jealous of the "Playboy" lifestyle. We don't necessarily know whether Hugh Hefner is more fulfilled with his life than a married, monogamous man with two kids. Which man is living the life he truly set out to live? Conventional wisdom has it that Mr. Hefner is a happy man, but just because he projects that image does not make it so. (I'm willing to wager that he is satisfied, since he controls his wealth and is not afraid to show any woman the door.) Anyone - man or woman - should ask himself or herself: Can I walk away? If you're confident and independent enough to know that you can, congratulations. You are miles ahead of most human beings, who are all too willing to let a domineering partner (or boss, or relative, etc.) control their pathetic lives. If being a playboy is what you want, don't married. If being a family man is what you want, don't dick around. Be the man you want to be. (I'm assuming the PM of Italy is married, so I'm reticent to use him as an example. He should get a divorce if he wants 18-year-old poon.) This I agree with. There are happily married men who live life on their own terms and don't live under anybody's thumb. They treat a wife well because they love her and not because they want to avoid the doghouse or they want please an unpleasable woman. Men like Hugh Hefner live the life they want to live and I think that is what many men admire. He built himself from the ground up and did it his way until the very end. What is their not to like about that?
Cherry Blossom 35 Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 It's not that all men want to be playboys. What's good for the PM of Italy is not necessarily good for Joe Schmo in St. Louis. What every man should aspire for is to live his life HIS way. From a romantic standpoint, if that means marrying one woman or sleeping with 1,000, that should be his prerogative, regardless of the manufactured societal pressures to do one thing or another. Unfortunately, too many men refuse to take the reins in their own lives, and as such they become pussified husbands or partners to the kind of succubi that make them (the men) jealous of the "Playboy" lifestyle. We don't necessarily know whether Hugh Hefner is more fulfilled with his life than a married, monogamous man with two kids. Which man is living the life he truly set out to live? Conventional wisdom has it that Mr. Hefner is a happy man, but just because he projects that image does not make it so. (I'm willing to wager that he is satisfied, since he controls his wealth and is not afraid to show any woman the door.) Anyone - man or woman - should ask himself or herself: Can I walk away? If you're confident and independent enough to know that you can, congratulations. You are miles ahead of most human beings, who are all too willing to let a domineering partner (or boss, or relative, etc.) control their pathetic lives. If being a playboy is what you want, don't married. If being a family man is what you want, don't dick around. Be the man you want to be. (I'm assuming the PM of Italy is married, so I'm reticent to use him as an example. He should get a divorce if he wants 18-year-old poon.) Excellent post, Samspade.
Adunaphel Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 (I'm assuming the PM of Italy is married, so I'm reticent to use him as an example. He should get a divorce if he wants 18-year-old poon.) His W has already served him, publicly, with separation papers - it is actually also thanks to her accusations on the italian press that the facts about him started coming to light.
Trialbyfire Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Good post samspade, as long as genders can also be reversed. People need to be the person they are, within healthy reasonable boundaries.
samspade Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Good post samspade, as long as genders can also be reversed. People need to be the person they are, within healthy reasonable boundaries. Certainly, the genders can be reversed. And yes, without doing harm. Mr. Hefner decided a long time ago (after a divorce) that he never again wanted to live within the structure of a monogamous relationship. The women he sleeps with are willing and consenting adults. Not everyone may agree with that lifestyle, but it's better to have the freedom to choose that path than not.
Trialbyfire Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Anyone who can't remain monogamous, should remain single and do whatever they want, within reason. I don't admire Hef for his lifestyle because I think he's fooling himself because he fears death and aging, so he compensates by buying young women. On the otherhand, I could be wrong, in that he embraces and acknowledges this and knows he really doesn't "still have it". If that's the case, let him buy who he wants and who's willing to be bought for nothing more than money. I will openly admit to having zero sympathy for any woman who's willing to spread'em for a few lousy dollars. It's pathetic that they have no other skills.
Woggle Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Hugh Heffner is a lame ass. Larry Flynt. I respect Larry Flynt for standing up the moral crusaders. He even took a bullet from a piece of human debris claiming to act in god's name.
You'reasian Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 Anyone who can't remain monogamous, should remain single and do whatever they want, within reason. I don't admire Hef for his lifestyle because I think he's fooling himself because he fears death and aging, so he compensates by buying young women. On the otherhand, I could be wrong, in that he embraces and acknowledges this and knows he really doesn't "still have it". If that's the case, let him buy who he wants and who's willing to be bought for nothing more than money. I will openly admit to having zero sympathy for any woman who's willing to spread'em for a few lousy dollars. It's pathetic that they have no other skills. You assume he's lead by pain and is therefore seaking pleasure to compensate. Then you try the reverse. Maybe he's just a guy that had a dream, has a really high sex drive and was able to combine the two.
clv0116 Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 If being a playboy is what you want, don't married. If being a family man is what you want, don't dick around. Be the man you want to be. (I'm assuming the PM of Italy is married, so I'm reticent to use him as an example. He should get a divorce if he wants 18-year-old poon.) I'm betting the PM is also being the man he wants to be.
mr.dream merchant Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 To be honest playing around with multiple girls/women is fun, but its short lived. The girls move on, find guys who are willing to commit to them, while you're left scrambling to fill that open spot in your rotation. You really don't get much out of that lifestyle other than a good round of sex whenever you want. But sex can only carry you so far, soon you begin to feel empty and alone, especially when all your **** buddies start moving on to more meaningful and special relationships. I prefer having that one who loves me for me, one who I can put my full trust in and allow to the key to my heart. After losing my GF, I don't want to go back to that playboy lifestyle. Because I know it will never replace what a kind, loving, and beautiful woman who only has eyes for you could offer.
zigzaggy Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 It depends on money... If you give a man 100 million dollars, or let's say he won the lottery, chances are he would prefer traveling, and dating beautiful women around the world. Most men do not have this option, so they stay married.
OpenBook Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 It depends on money... If you give a man 100 million dollars, or let's say he won the lottery, chances are he would prefer traveling, and dating beautiful women around the world. Most men do not have this option, so they stay married. I completely agree with this. It's all about the money. Rich people live by different rules from the rest of us shleps. Witness the current economic crisis.
Surfer Dude Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 Hugh Hefner lives the life that any man that is honest with himself wants to live. I have great respect for him. He is a self made millionare who built an empire through hard work and loosened up America in the process. Exactly. Any guy who has the courage to admit to himself that he really cares more about sex, love and women than meaningless societal structures like marriage, deserves my respect. Real Men get married, have a family, and don't cheat. You apparently are referring boys, that's why it's called Playboy not Playman. Says who? Societal overlords who managed to brainwash masses into thinking that following their own dreams and desires is bad? The same ones who told us that we should live our lives working like slaves, earning worthless money, paying off morgages and debts and getting tied down for the rest of our lives? Any man can have the power to live the life he dreams of. It's well within his reach. We care about creating f*cking great experiences for both women and ourselves. However, women will never be deceived. Any woman who is with me, knows my rules. If she can't play by my rules, and wants me to give her exclusivity and my balls - I will respectfully have to let her go. But at all times, she will know where she stands. Interestingly, really feminine and high-self-esteem women don't mind polyamory. I wish I could find more women who like sleeping around. I went out with one - not knowing he was one (that's why he's a playboy ) and it was one of the most painful experiences I've encountered. Give me a real man - anytime! I'm lucky to be with one now! You mean a chump who will hand over his balls and submit to you? To be honest playing around with multiple girls/women is fun, but its short lived. The girls move on, find guys who are willing to commit to them, while you're left scrambling to fill that open spot in your rotation. You really don't get much out of that lifestyle other than a good round of sex whenever you want. But sex can only carry you so far, soon you begin to feel empty and alone, especially when all your **** buddies start moving on to more meaningful and special relationships. I prefer having that one who loves me for me, one who I can put my full trust in and allow to the key to my heart. After losing my GF, I don't want to go back to that playboy lifestyle. Dude, you know what's meaningful? WHATEVER makes you happy in this short lifetime on Earth. Just because society tells us how to run our lives in accordance with their rules and structures, doesn't mean it's "right" and that following our natural desires is "meaningless". If you admit to yourself what you really want, if you give in to the "way of the nature" and actively put in effort to start living the LIFE OF YOUR DREAMS, then secrets of the cosmos will open up to you. Anything else is a waste of time, a waste of this short and precious life on Earth and disrespect to life. Because I know it will never replace what a kind, loving, and beautiful woman who only has eyes for you could offer.Go out 3 times a week and approach at least 10 women a night. I promise you'll forget about your ex. If you can't approach chicks at home, then go to Thailand, "intimately love" 20 chicks and when you come back, you'll realize that your ex isn't some special unique flower, but rather a woman like any other... and incidentally, there are 3 billion of them, to our satisfaction! haha You could find something to love about any woman out there, if you took time to get to know her better. Those wonderful creatures... Take the red pill and get our of societal matrix. Or... you can be miserable for the rest of your life, spend years pining over that one woman, eventually meet some woman who will own your balls and live the rest of your life in a self constructed prison. Stop pining like a pussy and make a difference in your life. It's well within your reach. Last year I was where you are now.... but I've grown and evolved so much, I can't possibly fathom reverting into such misery again!
Woggle Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 To be honest playing around with multiple girls/women is fun, but its short lived. The girls move on, find guys who are willing to commit to them, while you're left scrambling to fill that open spot in your rotation. You really don't get much out of that lifestyle other than a good round of sex whenever you want. But sex can only carry you so far, soon you begin to feel empty and alone, especially when all your **** buddies start moving on to more meaningful and special relationships. I prefer having that one who loves me for me, one who I can put my full trust in and allow to the key to my heart. After losing my GF, I don't want to go back to that playboy lifestyle. Because I know it will never replace what a kind, loving, and beautiful woman who only has eyes for you could offer. But then the girls get bored and resentful of the guys willing to commit to them and end up cheating on them with the players. A good player can always find women to play with.
Woggle Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 I also respect Hugh Hefner for being 80 years old and still being an icon that men can look up to. He never self destructed or had any scandal. He didn't descend into a world of substance abuse and he didn't go crazy like Howard Hughes. He has always been the Hef that we know and love and though he is probably past his prime at this point he can look back at his life and say he truly lived. When he goes it will probably be in his groto with a bunch of playmates around him. What a life he had. It's probably the reason feminists hate him so much. They can't stand true independent men that they can't nag into handing over their balls.
Lyssa Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 You mean a chump who will hand over his balls and submit to you? No, those are doormats.
Chicago_Guy Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 Gain, going back to the question.... YES, I do prefer the life of a playboy... not getting attached to any woman too much and enjoying many of them. And to repeat what other posters said, most men prefer the life of the playboy, unfortunately too few can live it. Cheers, I don't agree with you. I think that most decent women won't tolerate being with a man who is sleeping around with a bunch of other women. The only women who tolerate this lifestyle are probably gold-digging sluts, like the ones that Hugh Hefner gets.
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