Citizen Erased Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 For people who say they would not date a recreational pot user - would you date a recreational drinker? Probably yes, since mostly everyone is a recreational drinker. There really isn't a difference - alcohol is addictive and can impair your judgment, arguably a lot more than pot can. The only differences are the social meanings attached to each drug. Pot is illegal. Alcohol isn't. Your point? People can do what they like but I can also refuse to date someone that smokes anything, let alone weed.
Island Girl Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 Wouldnt be a deal breaker, and I would let it slide unless it became a problem. I live in one of the most liberal cities in the world, and a LOT of people smoke a joint here and there, which I dont have a problem with. I would make it known, though, if we got serious that we would NOT be raising children with that stuff in the house, and they had better not dare show up to any family functions and such stoned. Its just respect. I think its funny that so many people have such a problem with it, when alcohol is far worse, and causes far more deaths every year. Everything in moderation. Someone who works 40+ hours a week, pays their bills, and keeps their house relatively clean deserves to unwind. If that means drink a beer or take a hit off the bong, so be it. Needing to relax is one thing, but if you NEED any chemical substance just to be happy and get by, thats an issue. I wholeheartedly agree. One of my friends who is a police officer told me he'd rather get a call to go to a pot party any day over getting called to a drinking party. He said if he shows up to tell the potheads to keep it down - they comply easily and he knows he won't get a call to go back. But if he gets a call to go to a drinking party he'll tell them to keep it down but depending upon how long it's been going he may have belligerence to deal with -- and in most cases he'll get return calls for violence. Pot doesn't bother me - as long as it isn't a dependency issue. It's medically legal here too.
EddieN Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 Pot is illegal. Alcohol isn't. Your point? People can do what they like but I can also refuse to date someone that smokes anything, let alone weed. Indeed, but not every law makes sense. Your point? Weed being illegal ultimately derives from politically-driven and racist reasons. To put it short, it was a way to suppress black culture in America, and a number of politicians jumped on the issue in order to push their own careers. Seems like a bad law to me, especially since it's so hard to enforce.
Citizen Erased Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 Indeed, but not every law makes sense. Your point? Weed being illegal ultimately derives from politically-driven and racist reasons. To put it short, it was a way to suppress black culture in America, and a number of politicians jumped on the issue in order to push their own careers. Seems like a bad law to me, especially since it's so hard to enforce. And all of the other countries that it is illegal in? That because of suppressing black culture too? I doubt it. I don't do it and I don't want it in my home. I don't think that's too much to expect. I'm not asking for people to be shot on the spot if they're smoking a joint.
Ruby Slippers Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 And all of the other countries that it is illegal in? That because of suppressing black culture too? I doubt it. I don't do it and I don't want it in my home. I don't think that's too much to expect. I'm not asking for people to be shot on the spot if they're smoking a joint. Eh. The illegal argument. Downloading music and movies online is illegal -- do you allow that in your home? Anal sex or even oral sex are illegal in some states -- do you follow those laws? Ever drawn a picture on a dollar bill? Defacing currency is illegal! Ever jaywalk? How 'bout speeding on the highway?
missdependant Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 Eh. The illegal argument. Downloading music and movies online is illegal -- do you allow that in your home? Anal sex or even oral sex are illegal in some states -- do you follow those laws? Ever drawn a picture on a dollar bill? Defacing currency is illegal! Ever jaywalk? How 'bout speeding on the highway? Why does everything fun have to be illegal? Alcohol is legal.. and to me, that's just not any fun.
EddieN Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 And all of the other countries that it is illegal in? That because of suppressing black culture too? I doubt it. I don't do it and I don't want it in my home. I don't think that's too much to expect. I'm not asking for people to be shot on the spot if they're smoking a joint. I don't know why pot is illegal in the UK or other countries, but I know the reasons why it was made illegal in the US. On a side note, From Bill Hicks: You see, I think drugs have done some good things for us. I really do. And if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favor. Go home tonight. Take all your albums, all your tapes and all your CDs and burn them. 'Cause you know what, the musicians that made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years were rrrrrrreal ****ing high on drugs. The Beatles were so ****ing high they let Ringo sing a few tunes.
Ruby Slippers Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 Alcohol is legal.. and to me, that's just not any fun. Yeah, I am not a fan of alcohol. I mean, I will drink sometimes, if I'm at a bar with friends or whatever, but I soooooo prefer the mary jane high. It's 100 times more fun for me. And you never see a stoner getting into a fist fight or falling down the stairs. We're too busy having stoned sex and freaking out over how good everything feels, tastes, smells, etc.
Prodigal Princess Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 I wouldn't date someone who favoured pot as their drug of choice, I think it's lame. I only date people who have a taste for blow. I'd never date someone who didn't drink or use drugs recreationally. BORING.
czombie Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 I would never date a stoner.....what would be the point two different personalites from the get go just leads to a break up.
SoulSearch_CO Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 Indeed, but not every law makes sense. Your point? Weed being illegal ultimately derives from politically-driven and racist reasons. To put it short, it was a way to suppress black culture in America, and a number of politicians jumped on the issue in order to push their own careers. Seems like a bad law to me, especially since it's so hard to enforce. I can get fired for smoking pot even just a little bit. I can't get fired for drinking. I don't imagine even a DUI would make me lose my job. But if I had even a smidge of THC in my system and got a surprise drug test - I'm screwed. Not to mention - in most cases it takes 30 days to be completely sure that it's out of your system. Alcohol doesn't take that long. So I can have a beer in the morning when I get off work and be perfectly fine when I go to work...any kind of test wouldn't show I had a beer that morning.
WarKat Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 This is an amusing subject for me. How about a medical MJ patient that smokes daily? What if the guy is still relatively young (late 30's) looks healthy, and does not seem to suffer from physical infirmity, yet has a 25 year documented history of over 30 different Rx pills, sometimes up to 18 pills a day? Just wondering....
lovelorcet Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 I consider the legal consequences a valid point, especially for people who would have issues with their job. But the reality of the matter is I don't see a big difference in recreational drinking or smoking pot but generally society accept one but not the other. The most important point is that I don't see drug use as a moral issue. I should be allowed to put whatever I want into my body and I do not think anyone has the right to tell what I can and can not use. Chemical dependency as a health issue is something else though...
Woggle Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 Both my wife and I like to get weeded every now and then plus we are drinkers so yes I would get involved with somebody like that. Any harder drugs though are a dealbreaker. I was married to a cokefiend and it is not something I ever wish to repeat again.
Cherished Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 Well that's because pot is....illegal and they don't want to get arrested. plus usually if there's pot going on there's also drinking going on at parties. I've never tried it and never had the inclination to, I just don't want to give myself over and I don't like smoking so I'm sure I wouldn't enjoy smoking marijuana. I also would not date someone who drank a lot. To me, if you can't go a week without a drink of alcohol, there's a problem. I wholeheartedly agree. One of my friends who is a police officer told me he'd rather get a call to go to a pot party any day over getting called to a drinking party. He said if he shows up to tell the potheads to keep it down - they comply easily and he knows he won't get a call to go back. But if he gets a call to go to a drinking party he'll tell them to keep it down but depending upon how long it's been going he may have belligerence to deal with -- and in most cases he'll get return calls for violence. Pot doesn't bother me - as long as it isn't a dependency issue. It's medically legal here too.
carhill Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 How about a medical MJ patient that smokes daily? What if the guy is still relatively young (late 30's) looks healthy, and does not seem to suffer from physical infirmity, yet has a 25 year documented history of over 30 different Rx pills, sometimes up to 18 pills a day? In a dating partner, taking medications for no obvious medical/psychological reason would seem suspect. Wouldn't matter to me what they are. Someone under physician care taking medical marijuana is a bit of a different topic than a recreational pot user, as defined by the OP. Regardless, I covered that potential in my initial response. An example of six meds TID (a reasonable scenario for 18 pills per day) sounds like pain management, cancer treatment, or for psych issues, in addition to routine stuff, like cardiac/lipid/glucose management. No way would a physician not be involved in that. Just remembering to dose properly is a challenge in itself. BTDT. Same with an insulin injector. Bottom line remains the same, and is two-fold. One, is recreational marijuana legal? Two, does its use by one party affect the relationship (current or potential) in a meaningful way? Does it affect attraction? Apply the same criteria to any drug or substance. As has been noted in the thread, some people would date a recreational pot user and some would not. Sounds like typical dating preference, except those who would not are providing reasons. I shave my head. Some women refuse to date bald guys. Baldness is an appearance factor, in no way related to legalities, health concerns, or relationship dynamics. It's simply a factor of appearance and attraction. They like and want what they like and want. So do I. Acceptance.
lizzylizliz Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 Personally, my o/h smokes it daily, and I do occasionally, and I DO notice a change in him sometimes, he's very up and down. But I just leave him to it, hes an adult and it's up to him if that's what he wants to do. If it pisses me off too much, then I'll either have words with him, or leave. Can understand why others don't want to be in this position personally
Prolix Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 As long as it doesn't have any adverse effects on the relationship itself or my work/profession, I wouldn't mind a bit. It can actually be quite fun. But, like most things, moderation is key. If you rely on it too much, there are undoubtedly other problems at hand.
WarKat Posted June 18, 2009 Posted June 18, 2009 An example of six meds TID (a reasonable scenario for 18 pills per day) sounds like pain management, cancer treatment, or for psych issues, in addition to routine stuff, like cardiac/lipid/glucose management. No way would a physician not be involved in that. Just remembering to dose properly is a challenge in itself. BTDT. Same with an insulin injector. Bottom line remains the same, and is two-fold. One, is recreational marijuana legal? Two, does its use by one party affect the relationship (current or potential) in a meaningful way? Does it affect attraction? Apply the same criteria to any drug or substance. Thanks for the direct reply . Yes, it is for psych issues, and I work closely with my attending to monitor my treatment, including MMJ. I was just curious as it is a controversial subject. I have had many women lose interest because of it. I have also had women interested because of it, but for the wrong reasons. So in light of the above, yes, I guess it does affect attraction...
collegekid491 Posted June 18, 2009 Posted June 18, 2009 It all has to do with the person. While I personally wouldn't, not so much the getting high that turns me off, as knowing what the money is fueling. But as you said, recreational user, so generally they aren't the ones who... fly off the handle, unless they were that way to start.
Ruby Slippers Posted June 18, 2009 Posted June 18, 2009 Sounds like typical dating preference, except those who would not are providing reasons. Well, I'll explain the reason I would: I don't think occasional use is a big deal. It's pretty much equivalent to getting tipsy or drunk (depending on the amount and the grade) occasionally. Most of my friends are musicians and artists, and most of them use marijuana, to varying degrees. Some, like me, smoke no more than once a week. And most of the time, it's more like once a month for me, whenever it's around at a gathering or something. These people are obviously using it recreationally, to enhance good times. Others use it almost daily. These people are obviously using it as a crutch, to avoid pain, reduce stress, or check out. When it's used as a seasoning on occasion, I think it's fine. When it's your daily fare, it's too much and signals a problem. Same story with drinking.
EddieN Posted June 18, 2009 Posted June 18, 2009 Well, I'll explain the reason I would: I don't think occasional use is a big deal. It's pretty much equivalent to getting tipsy or drunk (depending on the amount and the grade) occasionally. Most of my friends are musicians and artists, and most of them use marijuana, to varying degrees. Some, like me, smoke no more than once a week. And most of the time, it's more like once a month for me, whenever it's around at a gathering or something. These people are obviously using it recreationally, to enhance good times. Others use it almost daily. These people are obviously using it as a crutch, to avoid pain, reduce stress, or check out. When it's used as a seasoning on occasion, I think it's fine. When it's your daily fare, it's too much and signals a problem. Same story with drinking. That's the way I see it. I would not date someone who smoked pot constantly, just as I wouldn't date someone who drank constantly. I would date someone who smoked pot occasionally, just as I would date someone who drank occasionally. Pot and alcohol aren't that different. People act like pot will get you arrested. Do you realize how many people have/do pot? The police have better things to do than crack down on every guy or girl who's smoked a joint. If you're dealing and have a ton of it then that's a different story, but the chance that you'll get arrested from smoking pot once a week or so is so so so low. And this is coming from a guy who only does pot a few times each summer, not from a wool-hat reggae-crazy stoner. Now, cocaine and harder drugs are a TOTALLY different story. That **** is BAD.
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