Kamille Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 Who here considers themselves to be a "beta male"? I'm asking the question because of a discussion about shy guys that we are having in another thread, N.C., post 25-41 so far. I feel that every guy, deep down, knows that he has the potential to be an alphamale, and is looking for a companion who will be in touch with that side of him. Also, to the shy guys: do you ever asks girls out? if not, why not? If you do, what does it take for you to make a move?
Author Kamille Posted June 8, 2009 Author Posted June 8, 2009 Im Gamma which is ''betta''!! =P You sayin' you like to play gammas?
xpaperxcutx Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 I would think most guys are a switch. They can dominate and still like to be dominated in return.
Author Kamille Posted June 8, 2009 Author Posted June 8, 2009 i'm in between :lmao: ________________________
alphamale Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 :lmao: ________________________ no really, i'm alpahbeta. depends on the day and the situation and the girl
Author Kamille Posted June 8, 2009 Author Posted June 8, 2009 I would think most guys are a switch. They can dominate and still like to be dominated in return. Interesting... I never really thought of it in terms of pure domination. I think of ALphamales as men who know what they want and won't settle for less. I guess this raises another question: how would you define an alphamale?
GorillaTheater Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 So what are you when you don't particularly care for the responsibility that goes with dominating others, but would rather eat broken glass than be dominated yourself? Besides probably being a commitment-phobe, I mean.
Soul Bear Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 no really, i'm alpahbeta. depends on the day and the situation and the girl Personality crisis?
Trialbyfire Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 So what are you when you don't particularly care for the responsibility that goes with dominating others, but would rather eat broken glass than be dominated yourself? Besides probably being a commitment-phobe, I mean.You forgot to add that you like to dominate.
GorillaTheater Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 You forgot to add that you like to dominate. Sorry, thought it went without saying. But those you dominate, you assume at least some level of responsibility for. Beyond a certain point, it's a damn nuisance. Dominating others just for the sake of said domination is pretty silly and may well be more of a beta trait. But maybe being an alpha has nothing to do with dominating others; beats the hell out of me.
Author Kamille Posted June 8, 2009 Author Posted June 8, 2009 But maybe being an alpha has nothing to do with dominating others; beats the hell out of me. yeah, I certainly didn't think of it in terms of domination. I think of it in terms of confidence I guess.
wuggle Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 I think the differentiation between 'Alpha' and 'Beta' in nonsense, stupid and devisive. Life is not that simple. Each person has a different face for every other person they interact with. A queit man can be a monster or a mouse and switch between the two in an instant, arrogant extroverts crumble in the face of a challenge where the supposedly meek shine through. IRL I never encountered the distinction much, but on LS it crops up all the time. I have also noticed that most women on here will always describe their partners as Alpha and anyone who argues with them as Beta. IMO it is a label used as a weapon on LS and should be COMPLETELY ignored.
clv0116 Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 Whether a person exhibits alpha or non-alpha behaviors is situational for most individuals. Some behave in an alpha manner in more situations than others of course, and some will essentially always need to be nth in line. The trendy "be alpha" movement we see today is mostly horsecrap, BTW.
Woggle Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 So what are you when you don't particularly care for the responsibility that goes with dominating others, but would rather eat broken glass than be dominated yourself? Besides probably being a commitment-phobe, I mean. That describes me. I am an adult and my woman is an adult so neither one of us should be dominating the other. I let nobody control me and she knows ahat I will and won't put up with so I don't have to even try to dominate her.
Trialbyfire Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 If you don't fit the label, it will only be an exercise in frustration to pretend to be it, for both yourself and the other person. Know yourself and what drives you.
clv0116 Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 In terms of life it varies, practically everyone on earth submits to someone sometimes. In a relationship I'm the kind but firm leader. It's just what works for me and all the women I date seem to enjoy that sort of arraignment. In all honesty though the ones that give me headaches get next-ed pretty fast so it's a matter of selection.
alphamale Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 If you don't fit the label, it will only be an exercise in frustration to pretend to be it, for both yourself and the other person. Know yourself and what drives you. :love: i think a lot of it is based on your looks and personality. people tend to treat you like you're an alpha or a beta based upon your looks and/or your personality and ergo you become either one based on others perceptions of you 1
BlueHarvest Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 IMO it is a label used as a weapon on LS and should be COMPLETELY ignored. And that as they say...is that. To be scientific about it one could say that it follows the rules of hegemonic masculinity. This refers to the idea that a culturally normative ideal of male behaviour exists (the one in which men are suggested to be like), which is calculated to guarantee the dominant position of some men over others, and the subordination of women. According to the theory's proponents, it is not necessarily the most prevalent form of male expression, but rather the most socially endorsed that always contributes to the subordinate position of women they perceive. Proponents point to characteristics such as aggressiveness, strength, drive, ambition, and self-reliance, which they argue are encouraged in males but discouraged in females in contemporary American society. It's a fact that when referring to alpha, beta, or omega males they tend to be used to discuss social castes in ANIMALS. We are better then animals, using labels like alpha, beta, omega males is only demeaning to the human race. Think about the movie "What women want" with Mel Gibson. By no means am I saying we should base our culture on a movie, but it brings up the excellent point of view that alpha males may be exalted but they are also hated just as much as they are exalted. You just don't hear it face to face.
Woggle Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 If you are male most women in general hate your guts no matter what. As soon men realize they will never win with the majority of the female population we will be much better off in the long run. The alpha will at least find one woman who loves him while the beta just gets taken advantage of by women who see a sucker.
alphamale Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 If you are male most women in general hate your guts no matter what. As soon men realize they will never win with the majority of the female population we will be much better off in the long run. The alpha will at least find one woman who loves him while the beta just gets taken advantage of by women who see a sucker. superb analysis
EddieN Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 Any guy who declares himself as an alpha male is probably fooling himself. I think classifying humans on the alpha-omega chain is silly. We're too socially complex to compare ourselves to primitive animals. As for me, I'm not any label. I don't take **** from other guys, but I don't go out trying to control others or prove I'm more manly than others.
Trialbyfire Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 If you are male most women in general hate your guts no matter what. As soon men realize they will never win with the majority of the female population we will be much better off in the long run. The alpha will at least find one woman who loves him while the beta just gets taken advantage of by women who see a sucker. Yes, all women hate all men!! We hate you guys with every fibre of our being. That's why there are so many women madly in love with men. We only pursue what we hate.
Author Kamille Posted June 8, 2009 Author Posted June 8, 2009 Okay, so most people feel the categories aren't relevant or will, minimally, vary according to situation. I agree with this. That being said: are you more attracted to a woman who makes you feel like you're the hottest thing since slice bread, or one who makes you feel like you constantly have to prove yourself to her?
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