neowulf Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 What about a Gamma male? /turns green and proceeds to rampage across LS... ... What?
Sam Spade Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 I'm willing to bet that an alpha male is a male not giving one flying **** about what chicks tell each other an alpa 'should; be As for dominating the conversation, this is also a stupid criterion. There are plenty loudd but insecure people that would do everything in their power to fill the airtime.
Jersey Shortie Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Examples of beta male characteristics: blatantly checking out every hot girl you see, being antagonistic with other men and women, letting people waste your time with stuff you're not interested in, always looking for approval and reassurance, always trying to dominate... Alpha is the opposite. I think that can be one type of beta male for sure. Some guys cover up massive insecurities with acting rude and loud and overtly testoserone fulled because they feel like they need to prove something. And then there are the beta guys that are quite, filled with flowerly emotion and let their lady run the show. I want a man that will bring strength to the relationship, not a man that is looking for strength through me, if that makes sense. I want a man that can sometimes take the lead but always values my thoughts and feelings and who I can talk about those things with. In all things, there needs to be balance. I don't think I could be with anyone that was 100% alpha or beta. I prefer not to use such terms. I don't view myself either way.
lora22 Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Those are two somewhat contradictory statements. Which is it? Going back to dog poo conversation - the woman talking to a beta male is in control, because she gets to blab about dog poo to her heart's content, with no care about what the guy wants or is interested in. Maybe saying that she is in control isn't the right way of putting it; I'm going to blame it on the fact that it was 3am and I'm sick.
Author start-fresh Posted May 27, 2009 Author Posted May 27, 2009 I didn't mean to threadjack, Amistad, I just didn't know how to answer the question. Sorry 'bout that. I guess the best way I can answer it (and you can translate it to alpha/beta) is that I like a guy that is certain enough in his own worth that he isn't constantly trying to prove it. He doesn't walk all over people, but also doesn't let people walk over him. I like a guy that's IN control, but NOT controlling. Make sense? LOL No worries, it was obviously a dumb question if it took a page to explain wtf I was even asking. Thanks everybody for your responses.
WTRanger Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 In the end, the Tri Lambda's got the girls that the Alpha Beta's were after. You know, when questions like this are asked all it means is to get the tape measure out and see whose got the biggest member. That's all this is. You're in the locker room and you want to see how you stack up against other guys. In social animals, the alpha is the individual in the community whom the others follow. The term "alpha male" is sometimes applied to human beings to refer to a man who is powerful or in a high social position, similar to hegemonic masculinity. So that means by a technical default the only alpha male in this country is the President because when it comes down to it, we all follow his directives and he has the highest position of power. The rest of us chumps are just beta's and below. By the way, I'm an omega male and I'm 28.5" long.
lora22 Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 In the end, the Tri Lambda's got the girls that the Alpha Beta's were after. You know, when questions like this are asked all it means is to get the tape measure out and see whose got the biggest member. That's all this is. You're in the locker room and you want to see how you stack up against other guys. So that means by a technical default the only alpha male in this country is the President because when it comes down to it, we all follow his directives and he has the highest position of power. The rest of us chumps are just beta's and below. By the way, I'm an omega male and I'm 28.5" long. I think I just fell in love
monkey00 Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 I don't know what the specific differences are for both. But from what I know about alpha/beta types I think I fall somewhere in between. The ideal type of girl I'd want to be with should also fall in between. I think there are strengths and weaknesses in both. Let's say if the alpha male is always the conversation dominator but doesn't listen to what others have to say, that's pretty rude and obnoxious. Plus a guy shouldn't have to brag about himself or his successes if he is a strong person...only weak people have something to prove by doing that.
alphamale Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 As the title suggests, what do you prefer and why? I'm not intending this to be another bad boy/nice guy debate either as I think betas don't necessarily have to be nice guys and vice versa (although that is often the case). Also do you consider yourself more of an alpha or beta female? i can tell you by experience that most women prefer the alphamale
Trialbyfire Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 I don't know about the definitions of alpha v. beta being thrown around in this thread but I prefer alpha males and am an alpha female.
Untouchable_Fire Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 I don't know about the definitions of alpha v. beta being thrown around in this thread but I prefer alpha males and am an alpha female. Here are some solid definitions. "In social animals, the alpha is the individual in the community whom the others follow. Where one male and one female fulfill this role, they are referred to as the alpha pair (the term varies when several individuals of the same gender fulfill this role). Other animals in the same social group may exhibit deference or other symbolic signs of respect particular to their species towards the alpha." "In some cases, the hierarchy is extended to include two other roles: beta and omega. The beta (usually beta male) is the contender to the alpha position, and usually subordinate to the individual in it after passing a test. Betas act as the second in command and can overthrow the alpha or future alpha through reiterated challenges. Omega (usually rendered ω-male) is an antonym used to refer to the lowest caste of the hierarchical society. An omega is subordinated to both alpha and beta. The omega may be used as a scapegoat and is commonly the last allowed to eat."
Trialbyfire Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Here are some solid definitions. "In social animals, the alpha is the individual in the community whom the others follow. Where one male and one female fulfill this role, they are referred to as the alpha pair (the term varies when several individuals of the same gender fulfill this role). Other animals in the same social group may exhibit deference or other symbolic signs of respect particular to their species towards the alpha." "In some cases, the hierarchy is extended to include two other roles: beta and omega. The beta (usually beta male) is the contender to the alpha position, and usually subordinate to the individual in it after passing a test. Betas act as the second in command and can overthrow the alpha or future alpha through reiterated challenges. Omega (usually rendered ω-male) is an antonym used to refer to the lowest caste of the hierarchical society. An omega is subordinated to both alpha and beta. The omega may be used as a scapegoat and is commonly the last allowed to eat."That works for the balance of the animal kingdom but with human beings, not all alphas want to lead. Some just believe what they believe and will act/think the way they want to. If others follow, that's just an unnecessary byproduct and not the end-goal.
Untouchable_Fire Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 That works for the balance of the animal kingdom but with human beings, not all alphas want to lead. Some just believe what they believe and will act/think the way they want to. If others follow, that's just an unnecessary byproduct and not the end-goal. The terminology was not created to be applied to humans. Technically, if he isn't the guy in charge... then he isn't an Alpha. We are very complex social animals. Our offspring are very fragile for a very long time and take a lot of effort to get them safely into adulthood. The vast majority of that effort is yours, so you should be biologically attracted to men who can protect that investment.
Trialbyfire Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 The terminology was not created to be applied to humans. Technically, if he isn't the guy in charge... then he isn't an Alpha.IMO, not interested in leading but still ending up in charge due to leading by example, constitutes alpha. I'm thinking about my fiance, who everyone just automatically follows, including myself. He's no control freak or overly-dominating person. He just "is", without trying or trying too hard. We are very complex social animals. Our offspring are very fragile for a very long time and take a lot of effort to get them safely into adulthood. The vast majority of that effort is yours, so you should be biologically attracted to men who can protect that investment. Can't speak for other women but I agree with your bolded statement but are uncertain/unconvinced about the phrase used previous to it. Not all families or relationships these days, are stereotypically gender role driven, where the female is the sole care-giver and nurturing individual. In more equal partnership families, you can have a more equal split without loss of testosterone.
lora22 Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 IMO, not interested in leading but still ending up in charge due to leading by example, constitutes alpha. I'm thinking about my fiance, who everyone just automatically follows, including myself. He's no control freak or overly-dominating person. He just "is", without trying or trying too hard. Definition of alpha male.
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