sb129 Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 I might drop all of my summer courses. I don't think my mental state can take this anymore. Oh for....:rolleyes: How ridiculous. But go ahead, throw away your education for this if you have to. Nothing. I'm just tired of feeling like I have to break my back by competing with other women to please men all the time, to get their attention. Welcome to the animal kingdom, sweetie. so... does that mean the only reason you are bothering to take classes is to meet men? It would appear so. JS- what Soul Search was saying, and what I also agree with, is you can look SEXY without looking TRAMPY. And vice versa. Some women don't know the distinction. But there is a difference.
Jaytb Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 YOu don't think that's messed up? I'll tell you what's messed up. Women dressing sexy and then complaining when men look. If you don't want men looking then why are you dressing sexy in the first place?
GorillaTheater Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 What does it matter if she is a woman or man? I think there is alot of truth to what I say. It's okay if men ogle other sexily dressed women. It's not okay for a woman to dress sexy other wise she is a "tramp". What is that about? Seems pretty judgemental if you ask me. And it seems that we are saying it's okay if men do this or that but women need to conform to a narrow set of rules. I know enough about men to know that they are judgmental about women often when it comes to how a woman dresses. They will call a girl a slut for dressing sexy but at the same time stare and enjoy the show. Hypocritical and insecure. Why can't men handle their woman dressing sexy to show off her body. They sure eat it up when it's other women. It's a double standard and frankly, it blows. Women are suppose to be so confident and in control and cool and men are allowed to drool after other women and call women names for their choices in clothes. YOu don't think that's messed up? I think what may be messed up is when a woman posts about "trampy" attire and you give men (as in all men) both barrels in response. There are other things I think are messed up as well, but I doubt you want to hear about those.
sb129 Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 I'll tell you what's messed up. Women dressing sexy and then complaining when men look. If you don't want men looking then why are you dressing sexy in the first place? I agree. Don't get your boobs out all over the place and then whine that nobody takes you seriously and people only talk to your tits. Duh. Honestly. This isn't rocket science insecure ladies.....
GorillaTheater Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 I'll tell you what's messed up. Women dressing sexy and then complaining when men look. If you don't want men looking then why are you dressing sexy in the first place? Or even worse, when they admit that they like to be looked at, but will give men and the world in general never-ending relentless 24/7 hell over looking at porn.
sb129 Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 I think what may be messed up is when a woman posts about "trampy" attire and you give men (as in all men) both barrels in response. There are other things I think are messed up as well, but I doubt you want to hear about those. I am waiting for my barrels, I mentioned trampy too. I guess it takes time to reload.... Some women DO look trampy... ... some guys like that look, others don't. Most average males prefer (I think) the classy, sexy look that isn't trampy. No double standard here, just PREFERENCES.
Trialbyfire Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 I agree. Don't get your boobs out all over the place and then whine that nobody takes you seriously and people only talk to your tits. Duh. Honestly. This isn't rocket science insecure ladies.....To turn that around, if you want some attention, don't wear a burkha in hot summer! It's only your own insecurity that stops you from wearing what you want to wear, as long as it's suitable for your body type and appropriate, for your environment.
sb129 Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 Or even worse, when they admit that they like to be looked at, but will give men and the world in general never-ending relentless 24/7 hell over looking at porn. I still think the paper bag idea is a good one for those that can't handle the real world the rest of us manage to inhabit without so much angst..
sb129 Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 To turn that around, if you want some attention, don't wear a burkha in hot summer!. Well I agree, but she said she wanted attention AND to be able to be covered from top to toe. Problem solved.
GorillaTheater Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 I still think the paper bag idea is a good one for those that can't handle the real world the rest of us manage to inhabit without so much angst.. Ah, but where would LS be without our collective angst.
Kamille Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 Ah, but where would LS be without our collective angst. a bunch of short threads that would go something like this: I'm so happy I'm me! Good, you should be - you are a unique and considerate individual worthy of love
kdark Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 a bunch of short threads that would go something like this: I laughed out loud when I read this. Hilarious!
sb129 Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 a bunch of short threads that would go something like this: Quote: I'm so happy I'm me! Quote: Good, you should be - you are a unique and considerate individual worthy of love Ok, true true. Maybe I need to quit LS until I get my angst back...... nah.
JeezLouise Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 I might drop all of my summer courses. I don't think my mental state can take this anymore. College is for an education - not to get laid or get self-esteem about your body. If you are unhappy with your body, then drag your a$$ to the gym and quit whining about it.
Author MeaganRaye Posted May 20, 2009 Author Posted May 20, 2009 So you don't like/want to dress sexy (however you define that)? I don't think I look all that great in sexy clothes. I feel more comfortable conservatively dressed. And even if I did dress sexy, I am still competing with other women when I go out. Every girl has their legs, stomach, breasts anythign you name out..just how will I be able to stand out if all the other women are willing to go the extra mile by wearing even less than I do? Men are standing outside more often looking at all the women, with a big chest cat grin on their faces..the more revealing the woman is dressed the more nicer and friendlier they are...a conservatively dressed woman comes around and you might as well be invisible. Then these same men will complain about how they can't meet a lady
sb129 Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 I think you mean "Cheshire" cat. Men are standing outside more often looking at all the women, with a big chest cat grin on their faces. Do you even WANT to go out with a guy who looks at and views women that way? If you are this insecure now, imagine how bad it will be if you are with such a guy? I would concentrated on my studies if I were you and forget about it.
Jersey Shortie Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 It would appear so. JS- what Soul Search was saying, and what I also agree with, is you can look SEXY without looking TRAMPY. And vice versa. Some women don't know the distinction. But there is a difference. And trampy gets the most attention. So why shouldn't women, responding to what men respond to, dress in a way to get the most attention? Is it competitive? Yes. But obviously we have to be because if we can't keep up, even our own guy is off staring at the girl exposing it all. Why shouldn't we take in the same pleasure? Or even worse, when they admit that they like to be looked at, but will give men and the world in general never-ending relentless 24/7 hell over looking at porn. Because being looked at is the same as doing porn? I think I clearly said that I greatly dislike it when men that are clearly with there women or are in relationships look at me. The relationship I made was between the fact men will proudly state how of course they will look at a hot woman but then turn around and call women sluts that dress hotly or that they like more "consersitive girls'. I think that is about male insecurity and I think you see the truth in my words which is why you rather attack me then debate the issue. Women aren't insecure because they dress sexy and want attention, not all women at least. You men are so ready to stare at a pretty woman but then have this strange double face where you condemn us wanting to look pretty. WTF. So it's okay for men to stare at all the hot girls who dress with the purpose to attract attention but somhow a girl is a "slut" for dressing sexy. Give me a break. Huge double standard.
sb129 Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 And trampy gets the most attention. So why shouldn't women, responding to what men respond to, dress in a way to get the most attention? Is it competitive? Yes. But obviously we have to be because if we can't keep up, even our own guy is off staring at the girl exposing it all. Why shouldn't we take in the same pleasure? Because lots of women don't care what men think of how they look, and dress for themselves, and to a lesser degree, other women. Women aren't insecure because they dress sexy and want attention, not all women at least. I have found that most people who actually WANT attention and go out of their way to seek it are indeed, insecure. You men are so ready to stare at a pretty woman but then have this strange double face where you condemn us wanting to look pretty. WTF. So it's okay for men to stare at all the hot girls who dress with the purpose to attract attention but somhow a girl is a "slut" for dressing sexy. Give me a break. Huge double standard. See above. You can look pretty without looking slutty.
Lizzie60 Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Hum... it's true that when summer comes.. men are usually happier.. cause they'll see more skin... they love to look at women on the streets.. they love to look at women who are dressed verrrrry lightly. To dress lightly doesn't necessarily mean to dress sexy (trashy). Your problem is more about 'competition'... why the need to compete with other women... all women are nice to look at .. unless they're huge and sloppy. Just don't 'give a hoot' about other women.. just be who you are.. and be confident... confidence is waaay sexier than any summer mini skirt.. trust me on that one..
sb129 Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 I don't get why some women feel the need to compete with other women either. There is someone for everyone out there- and people find all sorts of different looks hot. And I agree about confidence.... its the thing that makes you the most attractive.
sb129 Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Every girl has their legs, stomach, breasts anythign you name out.. You go to a nudist school? Actually- now thats a potential answer to your predicament.
Jersey Shortie Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Because lots of women don't care what men think of how they look, and dress for themselves, and to a lesser degree, other women. Again, if our man is off staring at other women, why shouldn't a woman in return take advantage of having other men stare at her and give her the same validation that even her own man is eager to give other women? You're answer has nothing to do with the question I posed. I have found that most people who actually WANT attention and go out of their way to seek it are indeed, insecure. I found people that condemn other's for wanting attention are indeed insecure. See above. You can look pretty without looking slutty. Some days a girl wants to look pretty, other days she might want to look slutty. So what? You think she is going to leave her boyfriend if she dresses more slutty one day? Of course she isn't. THis is something that is about male insecurity. Men are okay with oggling other women but are insecure when their woman dresses in ways to garner the same exact attention. That's insecurity. Your problem is more about 'competition'... why the need to compete with other women... all women are nice to look at .. unless they're huge and sloppy. This is something else I don't get. When you go out, if even your own guy is looking at other women and validating them, why shouldn't a woman feel somewhat competitive? It's no fun being the girl on a guys arm that is looking at other girls. Why shouldnt a girl feel competitive. That is 100% as natural as a guy looking at a pretty girl. But somehow women are allowed to respond naturally to things that alot of guys are throwing in our faces that they will "unapologetically" not stop doing.
Jaytb Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Women aren't insecure because they dress sexy and want attention, not all women at least. You men are so ready to stare at a pretty woman but then have this strange double face where you condemn us wanting to look pretty. WTF. So it's okay for men to stare at all the hot girls who dress with the purpose to attract attention but somhow a girl is a "slut" for dressing sexy. Give me a break. Huge double standard. I enjoy your strawman arguments. Haha, get it? straw-MAN?
Jersey Shortie Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 I enjoy your over use of the word "strawman arguments". People throw that phrase around like it's going out of style.
sb129 Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Again, if our man is off staring at other women, why shouldn't a woman in return take advantage of having other men stare at her and give her the same validation that even her own man is eager to give other women? You're answer has nothing to do with the question I posed. Not all men are off staring at other women. Some of them are quite happy with what they have at home. You don't seem to get that point. Ever. And not all women have a problem with their men looking at other women, because they know ultimately its ONLY LOOKING, and they don't need to compete or validate or any of that rubbish because they are happy with themselves. I found people that condemn other's for wanting attention are indeed insecure. Oh, OK. So thats why I am in a happy, secure, faithful marriage. And you are ........ not. Maybe those of us who are in happy relationships, or have healthy self esteem actually have some insight into how to get there for those of you who have hangups. But hey, whatever.
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