Author stampdaddy Posted May 25, 2009 Author Posted May 25, 2009 This is not over. The man is in love. Despite all the thick and then, he sees the Beautiful. Which is beautiful in its way, but there we have it. So...My bet is, they are in each other's arms again within three months. Any other takers? OE I'm in...........
White Flower Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 WF, no offense, but this woman was NOT unhappy during that time. IF she was neglected, depressed or whatever, it isn't and wasn't because of her marriage.. She lived a double life for nearly 5 years, and just recently has she gone downhill. She wasn't 'neglected' to the point of depression. Heck, from what I know, she was still going to family outings, functions ,entertaining WITH her husband, and none of their friends or family seemed to know any different. If anything, she's depressed NOW because her life is falling apart, everything that was cozy and safe, having her cake and eating it too (meaning, still able to live in the house, maintain the lifestyle, money etc, and have Stamps) ALL that is gone and she now realizes she has to work for a living, be independant. She's scared and freaking out. Hmmm, I don't know. I did all of those things too, except live the double life. I had to do whatever my H chose for us to do. I was not his mate, just his right hand man. Appearances are not always what they seem. She may not even have known she was depressed at the time. Just saying it is possible. And I am sure she is depressed now. She blew it in every way she could, depressed or not. For me, Stamp would have been the easiest most simple choice to make. I'm sure my depression would have lifted immediately. I'm guessing (not projecting) that she worried about what people would think and how her kids would have been affected by gossip, etc. For me, being depressed meant my children did not get a mother at her best. I had to remove the cause of the depression--my H--for my children's sake as well as my own.
whichwayisup Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 She may not even have known she was depressed at the time. Just saying it is possible. Yes, she probably is now..But I highly doubt she was depressed during her 4+ year affair. I'm sure it made life at home much more bareable. (barable? spelling I know) I'm guessing (not projecting) that she worried about what people would think and how her kids would have been affected by gossip, etc. The thing is, she created this and made it worse. She played everything passively and all of a sudden seems to have decided to play the bully, instead of being fair - To everyone involved.
Author stampdaddy Posted May 25, 2009 Author Posted May 25, 2009 There is no need to respond to WF, she is on a mission. and what mission is that, jackass?
lkjh Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 and what mission is that, jackass? To blame the betrayed husband, low life how home wrecker.
Author stampdaddy Posted May 25, 2009 Author Posted May 25, 2009 To blame the betrayed husband, low life how home wrecker. I think you are mistaken, my good man.. BUT, you have your "one way" views on everything, so MAYBE there is no need to respond to you, because YOU are on a mission, slapdick
lkjh Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 I think you are mistaken, my good man.. BUT, you have your "one way" views on everything, so MAYBE there is no need to respond to you, because YOU are on a mission, slapdick oh good one douche bag, is this the part where you cry and make yourself into a victim?
Die Hard Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 Boy a tense thread but at least everyone keeps it mature. The more I see you post stamp the more I think this mw is better off away from you. You act as if you have serious issues. You've now called folks freaks, jackasses and now a slapdick. That mask of yours just keeps slipping off. If you have an issue with a post you should report it not continue the behavior that got you suspended once already.
Die Hard Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 Ikjh: why are you stirring the pot by calling names back? You cannot force someone to listen and frankly who wants to take advice from someone who comes across as spiteful instead of helpful?
Author stampdaddy Posted May 25, 2009 Author Posted May 25, 2009 oh good one douche bag, is this the part where you cry and make yourself into a victim? Why yes it is, I AM a victim. "I am a victim of coircumstance", that is what my cousin Curly always used to say.... anyhoo, have a nice evening bashing everybody in your sick sights, you fargin corksucker!
Author stampdaddy Posted May 25, 2009 Author Posted May 25, 2009 Boy a tense thread but at least everyone keeps it mature. The more I see you post stamp the more I think this mw is better off away from you. You act as if you have serious issues. You've now called folks freaks, jackasses and now a slapdick. That mask of yours just keeps slipping off. If you have an issue with a post you should report it not continue the behavior that got you suspended once already. Oh Diehard... This is just fun.. I really hope that lkjh is laughing too.... this is just too much. c'mon man. It doesnt always have to be so serious
lkjh Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 Ikjh: why are you stirring the pot by calling names back? You cannot force someone to listen and frankly who wants to take advice from someone who comes across as spiteful instead of helpful? Its just the way I am, someone pushes me I push back. I wrote something in reply to whichwayisup's post and he had to take a shot. I really don't want to force him, I am well aware that a guy like him will never change. The guy will just spend another 5 years feeling sorry for himself.
Die Hard Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 Oh Diehard... This is just fun.. I really hope that lkjh is laughing too.... this is just too much. c'mon man. It doesnt always have to be so serious Yeah one minute you demand people not argue on your threads the next minute you're calling people things I won't even repeat. Sounds like loads of fun on memorial day of all days too. Who wouldn't love internet flaming on a holiday? You won't even admit getting pissed and name calling. Do you ever own up to anything? TRULY own up?
Die Hard Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 Its just the way I am, someone pushes me I push back. I wrote something in reply to whichwayisup's post and he had to take a shot. I really don't want to force him, I am well aware that a guy like him will never change. The guy will just spend another 5 years feeling sorry for himself. Yeah but people can feel sorry for themselves if they want to. There is no law against that. You should either report the post or not respond in kind. Calling him names back isn't going to accomplish anything nor is it helpful. I admit I don't think he can really be helped but you either try or don't post, or post your opinion but the attacking has to stop or this forum is in danger of being closed.
Author stampdaddy Posted May 25, 2009 Author Posted May 25, 2009 OK, Jeez.. lkjh, I am sorry, I was having fun with you. IF you really took it as seriously as Die Hard, then I REALLY apologize to you. Diehard, it IS Memorial Day, hope you had a good one too. It is POURING rain right now, actually all afternoon, so my bbq was cancelled, making pizzas instead. I dont get why EVERYTHING has to be so fricken serious all the time.
Die Hard Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 OK, Jeez.. lkjh, I am sorry, I was having fun with you. IF you really took it as seriously as Die Hard, then I REALLY apologize to you. Diehard, it IS Memorial Day, hope you had a good one too. It is POURING rain right now, actually all afternoon, so my bbq was cancelled, making pizzas instead. I dont get why EVERYTHING has to be so fricken serious all the time.jesus stamp it wasn't funny in any way shape or form and no one believes you were kidding, okay? I call my best friend the names you just did as a joke, not strangers on the internet. Like I asked, do you ever own up to anything? Are you so afraid that people here will see the real stamp that you feel the need to prtend you were kidding? Just admit stamp is human like the rest of us and says things that shouldn't have been said! This could be theraputic for you!!
Author stampdaddy Posted May 25, 2009 Author Posted May 25, 2009 jesus stamp it wasn't funny in any way shape or form and no one believes you were kidding, okay? I call my best friend the names you just did as a joke, not strangers on the internet. Like I asked, do you ever own up to anything? Are you so afraid that people here will see the real stamp that you feel the need to prtend you were kidding? Just admit stamp is human like the rest of us and says things that shouldn't have been said! This could be theraputic for you!! OMG! yes Dr Phil. I do have anger issues. Especially with people that I dont know, that dont matter to me, that I will never, ever meet in my lifetime and this cyber world is SO important to me that I am SO afraid that people will really see the real SD.. a miserable, angry loser and homewrecker. whew, that felt better!
Die Hard Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 OMG! yes Dr Phil. I do have anger issues. Especially with people that I dont know, that dont matter to me, that I will never, ever meet in my lifetime and this cyber world is SO important to me that I am SO afraid that people will really see the real SD.. a miserable, angry loser and homewrecker. whew, that felt better! Okay stamp you want to play it like that? What about the abusive profanity laced PM you sent me and then sent another PM apologizing for it? You want to pretend the posts you made were not made in anger and that that isn't the real stamp? Tell me I can post the pm you sent me then folks can judge. I don't have to be dr. Phil to theorize about your aner issues...I've experienced it first hand.
Author stampdaddy Posted May 25, 2009 Author Posted May 25, 2009 Okay stamp you want to play it like that? What about the abusive profanity laced PM you sent me and then sent another PM apologizing for it? You want to pretend the posts you made were not made in anger and that that isn't the real stamp? Tell me I can post the pm you sent me then folks can judge. I don't have to be dr. Phil to theorize about your aner issues...I've experienced it first hand. you know what, sure, go ahead and post it. JUST REMEMBER, you attacked ME. You attacked the reason I am divorced. You attacked WHO you think I am. Go ahead, post it. But make sure you post my apology as well, if this is the way you want to play.
Die Hard Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 you know what, sure, go ahead and post it. JUST REMEMBER, you attacked ME. You attacked the reason I am divorced. You attacked WHO you think I am. Go ahead, post it. But make sure you post my apology as well, if this is the way you want to play.hey dude you're the one who called me dr phil and lied when you said you don't get mad at people on the internet that you don't even know. You do get mad at people on the internet and people you don't know. Own it for christ's sake. I also think it should be noted that I posted what I did in a THREAD for all to see....you on the other hand took the easy way of using pm's so no one would see how you really can be. I'm not much interested in posting the actual pm since I don't see how it helps this thread. Folks knowing it happened is enough. Besides, all us humans have weak moments where we say things we shouldn't have. Some people will admit it and some will not. I suppose I got the answer to my question.
Author stampdaddy Posted May 26, 2009 Author Posted May 26, 2009 hey dude you're the one who called me dr phil and lied when you said you don't get mad at people on the internet that you don't even know. You do get mad at people on the internet and people you don't know. Own it for christ's sake. I also think it should be noted that I posted what I did in a THREAD for all to see....you on the other hand took the easy way of using pm's so no one would see how you really can be. I'm not much interested in posting the actual pm since I don't see how it helps this thread. Folks knowing it happened is enough. Besides, all us humans have weak moments where we say things we shouldn't have. Some people will admit it and some will not. I suppose I got the answer to my question. OK Diehard.. I do admit, that I absolutely wanted to kick your ass for attacking me about MY divorce and MY family life. You have no earthly idea what OUR lives are here, VERY peaceful. And, YES, I get pissed when people like YOU and lkjh pretend to KNOW ME when neither of you know jack! SO there, you a happy boy now, can we move on?
Die Hard Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 OK Diehard.. I do admit, that I absolutely wanted to kick your ass for attacking me about MY divorce and MY family life. You have no earthly idea what OUR lives are here, VERY peaceful. And, YES, I get pissed when people like YOU and lkjh pretend to KNOW ME when neither of you know jack! SO there, you a happy boy now, can we move on?well I don't know about you but your post makes me feel better. I feel I'm talking to the real stamp for the first time. NOW I can tell you that you aint such a bad guy. Yeah you're a homewrecker...so was I. What's done is done. Its what you do and how you think from now on that matters. You can fix everything stamp if you can get yourself past this. Its not the end of the world and you have a life after this woman. I know its impossible to see, I couldn't see it either but man if you hold to nc you WILL start seeing changes in how you feel and how you think about what has happened. You HAVE to stop fooling yourself into thinking its over and start taking ACTIONS to make sure its over. I can't tell you what those actions are, that's your business but you have got to start dealing with reality, and BELIEVING the relationship is over is the first step. You keep lying to YOURSELF when you say its over. Screw anything else...stary being honest with YOURSELF.
White Flower Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 hahahahah. whatever you have to tell yourself. 1. So you helped prove my point. Your responses are all about you and your life. You don't respond to the situation at hand you just reflect on yourself. You are out for vengeance against men because of your ex. 2. You are right on the other thread I did suggest she takes the lie detector test because the poster ask what can she do to get your H to trust her. After all her post were not about her H's previous affairs; they were about that fact that her H and everyone else thought she was cheating with a man younger than her H. I stand by my advice but to bad you were just focused on the one point 3. maybe I do live by the "mancode", if that code means you accept responsibility for your actions and stop blaming everyone else. 4. The part I love about your post is the fact that you don't respond to a single point. You don't focus on anything, all you do is come up with some crazy assumptions. You have some crazy need to outdo men. 5. The only reason you want to ignore me is because you know I am right. Once you learn to give up your need for revenge on men you will find some peace and actually find someone you can spend your life with. Until then you will just continue on your destructive path 1. I would have agreed that I helped you prove your point until you claimed that I have vengeance toward men because of my ex. That is hilarious! Look L, (I'm going to call you L because it is easier), I absolutely adore men! But when I recognize characteristics in one like those of my exH's I will mention it. My very posts may help you recognize your own hurting W's heart one day but you don't seem to come to LS in hopes of helping nor of learning. You just stand there on your high horse and get off on demoralizing people. I feel sorry for you. 2. You were the one who was too focused on the one point. The BW in that story has come to see the light, that her H manipulated her and everyone in his practice to see HER as the cheater when he was serial all along. I suspect it is the mancode you live by which made you side with him naturally. You couldn't even see how the man manipulated the woman in this story. This may be a wake up call for you and I say that with humility and kindness. 3. No, the mancode is generally a code that was written by men for men whereby men own the women and if any woman happens to think for themselves the man will get other men to surround her and SHUT HER DOWN. The mancode ALWAYS blames the woman. Real men don't need to shut a woman down. Real men see women as their equals and treat them accordingly. They don't say things like... 'if you really want to know why a woman like this will cheat on her H I will tell you............. its becaue you can't turn a hoe into a housewife. I know everyone is going to get mad about saying something like this but it is the truth.' It is not the truth. The MW in this case was a housewife for 20 years before she cheated. She wasn't a whore, by definition, in doing so. 4. L, L, L, I have no crazy need to outdo men. Only a threatened man would feel that way. A man who lives by the mancode fears a woman who doesn't. 5. I can counter any point you want to make but usually you just aren't worth my time. I might even agree with you on others if you offer up a fair one. In fact, I did agree with you earlier today on another post because I am a good sport. I have no pride. That is the difference between you and me. One day, you'll understand what this means. It is funny that you would suggest that I am putting you on ignore 'because I know you are right'. On the contrary, I RARELY see any of your posts offering support or advice of any kind as this forum asks of us. You just come here and call names and throw stones. What is the point of that? Really? Please don't bother to answer me unless you come from a place without pride, humility, stone-throwing, or name-calling.
lkjh Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 1. I would have agreed that I helped you prove your point until you claimed that I have vengeance toward men because of my ex. That is hilarious! Look L, (I'm going to call you L because it is easier), I absolutely adore men! But when I recognize characteristics in one like those of my exH's I will mention it. My very posts may help you recognize your own hurting W's heart one day but you don't seem to come to LS in hopes of helping nor of learning. You just stand there on your high horse and get off on demoralizing people. I feel sorry for you. 2. You were the one who was too focused on the one point. The BW in that story has come to see the light, that her H manipulated her and everyone in his practice to see HER as the cheater when he was serial all along. I suspect it is the mancode you live by which made you side with him naturally. You couldn't even see how the man manipulated the woman in this story. This may be a wake up call for you and I say that with humility and kindness. 3. No, the mancode is generally a code that was written by men for men whereby men own the women and if any woman happens to think for themselves the man will get other men to surround her and SHUT HER DOWN. The mancode ALWAYS blames the woman. Real men don't need to shut a woman down. Real men see women as their equals and treat them accordingly. They don't say things like... 'if you really want to know why a woman like this will cheat on her H I will tell you............. its becaue you can't turn a hoe into a housewife. I know everyone is going to get mad about saying something like this but it is the truth.' It is not the truth. The MW in this case was a housewife for 20 years before she cheated. She wasn't a whore, by definition, in doing so. 4. L, L, L, I have no crazy need to outdo men. Only a threatened man would feel that way. A man who lives by the mancode fears a woman who doesn't. 5. I can counter any point you want to make but usually you just aren't worth my time. I might even agree with you on others if you offer up a fair one. In fact, I did agree with you earlier today on another post because I am a good sport. I have no pride. That is the difference between you and me. One day, you'll understand what this means. It is funny that you would suggest that I am putting you on ignore 'because I know you are right'. On the contrary, I RARELY see any of your posts offering support or advice of any kind as this forum asks of us. You just come here and call names and throw stones. What is the point of that? Really? Please don't bother to answer me unless you come from a place without pride, humility, stone-throwing, or name-calling. 1. You are looking to compare this guy to your ex. You even what him to apoligize to the woman that has been cheating on him for 5+years. 2. I answered her question and you tried to get her thinking like you and you just referred to it as "seeing the light". She never asked to be persuaded she just asked how to get her H to believe her. 3. Cut the mancode crap. There is no such thing and no you can not turn a hoe into a housewife, just like you can't turn a pimp into a husband. Its not mancode its common since. From what we know this "lady" cheated for 5 out 20 years of marriage. That is 25% of her marriage and that is just what we know. She could have been cheating before. I like how you didn't respond to her using her children or does that not count in your equation? 4. Once again you used the cop out man code excuse. There is no war between males and females and if there was one you guys already won. THERE IS NO MANCODE. Every guy will jump through hoops for a women they care about. 5. I usually don't call names, I have just done that on this thread. Yes i am not sensitive to people who try to pretend they have no control over their actions or people who blame others for their mistakes. Like cheaters who blame the bs. There are 100's of routes you can take but you and others chose to cheat, YOU WERE NOT FORCED TO.
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