some dumb girl Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 my ex-bf is with a girl that i cannot stand. we tried being friends while they were dating but some drama went down, we fooled around and afterward his girlfriend didn't want him talking to me anymore even though she has no idea. he never told her what happened. they'd been dating for three months at the time, and she still doesn't know about it. i was never mean to her, i was always very nice to her and even welcomed her into my home. i really liked her until she started acting all crazy and psycho. they have been together for a year and a half now. she doesn't want him talking to me even though she has no idea about what happened. i have asked him if she knows and he has said no. he is listening to her and not talking to me anymore most of the time. sometimes he will reply to my messages in e-mail or my text messages. it's like when he does talk to me he really wants to. when he doesn't talk to me it seems like it's cuz he's being forced not to. my feelings for him are still very strong and i love him very much. i peak at his myspace every now and again and every time i see it i get so depressed because theres always pictures of them going on vacations and roadtrips and goin to concerts and other things. they always have so much fun together and now i hear from a mutual friend that they are trying to have a baby (i dont know WHY when they're not even married or anything yet). i feel like i'll never be good enough because i'm not as pretty as her. she is really pretty and i know i'm not. instead i have a really great personality, which she does not. she hates me and she hates all of the friends we had together. he won't talk to a lot of our mutual friends anymore just because he wants to avoid me. i was very good friends with him for at least four years, we dated for 3 months and broke up over something very stupid. we fooled around a lot after we broke up and while we were just friends and even told each other we loved each other but never went as far as to say gf/bf. i wanted a relationship but never told him. i think he wanted one too but never said anything. i hope i haven't missed the window as i feel very strongly for him and would do anything for just one more chance with him. and i know i am better for him than the girl he is with now. i could make him so much happier and do so much more for him. i am going to tell him how i feel but i need help on how to tell him. any ideas on how i can tell him? i really need help with this, it's been heartbreaking with him being with this other girl and sharing his life with her, i know i should have said something sooner and don't know why i didn't. the only time i told him how i felt was the one time he cheated on her with me but i didn't have a chance to say anything after that....and now he's at least willing to talk to me.....how do i tell him?
missdependant Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 Quit being a man-stealer. Just get over it and leave them alone. They've been together for a year and a half and you're still not over him? Just leave them alone, and quit being so selfish. It shouldn't matter to you how they're living their life together. Stop stalking him on myspace and MOVE ON! I'm sorry if I sound mean, but I absolutely can not STAND girls who try and sabotage others' relationships. If he really seems happy, let the guy be happy. If you really care about him, why would you try and ruin it for him?? I've been in his girls' position before and it's not fun. Whether or not she knows makes no difference. He cheated on you, and she probably DOES know what happened. Keep your nose out of their business and let them be happy together.
Author some dumb girl Posted May 8, 2009 Author Posted May 8, 2009 Just because I still love and care for him doesn't mean I'm a man stealer. Anyways, SHE sabotaged my friendship. Telling him how I feel is just going to make him think about whether or not it's what he really wants. And if everything works out he will open his eyes and be with me. I am so much better for him than she is. I have loved him longer and I know him better.
smookie Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 When you and your ex talk what are the conversations about? How does it end? What was happening when you two fooled around? who made the first move? How does he treat you now? Why would you want to tell him how you feel? Really you think that he is going to pack things up and leave her for you? I do not see that happening with just what you said already. He seems to be happy with who he is with. they take trips together and post pictures on the internet. Really you are headed for a heart break. I only asked tose questions because you seem to think that he might leave her. I do not think that he will and I believe that you will get hurt in the end. Go out and find someone that is not taken, Go out with your friends. It is not right to intensionally try to ruine a relationship. Stay away from him and get your own. He messed around on her with you so who is to say t hat he will not do that to you.
9Lives Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 Gosh, I feel so sorry for you. You have to let go. Quit blaming the girl. It is not her. He is making his own decisions. She cant make him do anything. Believe that. He id soing it cause he respects her wishes. You to accept it and I know it is hard but that is what you need to do.
Perrier Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 It must be heartbreaking seeing them together but you must quit looking up his profile asap. Seeing them together will not prevent you from moving on. Whether she sabotaged your friendship or not, he has made his choice, period. His gf didn't hold a gun to his head. When a third party is involved I always say back off
Author some dumb girl Posted May 9, 2009 Author Posted May 9, 2009 When you and your ex talk what are the conversations about? How does it end? What was happening when you two fooled around? who made the first move? How does he treat you now? Why would you want to tell him how you feel? Really you think that he is going to pack things up and leave her for you? I do not see that happening with just what you said already. He seems to be happy with who he is with. they take trips together and post pictures on the internet. Really you are headed for a heart break. I only asked tose questions because you seem to think that he might leave her. I do not think that he will and I believe that you will get hurt in the end. Go out and find someone that is not taken, Go out with your friends. It is not right to intensionally try to ruine a relationship. Stay away from him and get your own. He messed around on her with you so who is to say t hat he will not do that to you. I made the first move, but he went with it. He left without saying anything and when I asked why he said he needed to think about things. Whenever we talk it's through texts and it's small talk about how's school, how's work etc. We never talk about his girlfriend and when we stop texting it's because he stops replying. Sometimes I'll get messages forwarded from him, but if I send a reply he doesn't say much just something small like "hey, how's it going". I don't understand how I'd be ruining his relationship. I'd be telling him how I feel and seeing what would happen with it and where we could go from there. And I don't care what you people say it IS his girlfriend's fault she is the whole reason he won't talk to me anymore. She has sent me texts telling me to **** off and that I'm worthless and things of the sort. How is that my fault?!?!?
smookie Posted May 9, 2009 Posted May 9, 2009 How would you feel if you are with him and she comes back into the picture? What would you do, Hey hun you can go off with her for coffee's and talk all you want? I dought that would ever happen. Would you be ok if she came back in the future and told him her feelings when things are going good between you and him, I dought that too. Were telling you to leave him alone and if it does not work out do it then. It is unfair to her by all means, if he is not happy with her then he has to make that choice and it should not be because your willing to give it your all. If it is going to end between them let that happen first. All relationship have problems and so will your's. LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!!
Kamille Posted May 9, 2009 Posted May 9, 2009 It sounds like he might be your first heartbreak, and you think your love can conquer all. First loves are the hardest to let go, but you have to. Now, I'm going to give some tough love. It sounds to me like the only reason you are so hellbent on disliking is because you want to hang on to your lost love. I hope that you can come to take responsibility for your emotions and for your part in keeping yourself miserable here. Anyways, SHE sabotaged my friendship. No she didn't. You sabotaged it by hanging on to feelings for him. He sabotaged it by accepting your advances and keeping you hanging on. He sabotaged it by making his relationship a priority over your friendship - which wasn't so much a friendship as an affair anyway. All she did was react to what she felt was an unhealthy situation. And you know what? from the sounds of it, her perceptions are spot on. This might sound rude, but you have to realize that even though she doesn't actually *know* anything happened and doesn't actually *know* you are after her boyfriend, something did happen and you are after her boyfriend. I know I sound harsh, but I find it hypocritical of you to pretend yourself an innocent victim of her manipulative ways here. At least try and aknonlwedge the situation for what it is, and take responsibility for your actions. Telling him how I feel is just going to make him think about whether or not it's what he really wants. And if everything works out he will open his eyes and be with me. I am so much better for him than she is. I have loved him longer and I know him better. This is what you hope will happen. And you believe you are better for him. It sounds, however, like you don't think him capable of making his own decisions. He knows what's better for him, and he also likely knows that if he wanted to be with you, he could. Face it, he choses to be with her. Now I know I sound harsh, but I really think you need to accept responsiblity for the situation you got yourself in.
AlektraClementine Posted May 9, 2009 Posted May 9, 2009 You sound A LOT like my dude's ex girlfriend. I could tell you how I feel about her but I doubt it would make a difference to you. I'll say it anyway. You may THINK she doesn't know what happened. And even if he didn't tell her directly. We women can sniff these things out. My guy's ex in my opinion has displayed a blatant disrespect towards me. They had a 6 year friendship before dating and I knew that she was a big part of his life. Had she shown me respect from the get-go, things might have turned out differently. By respect, I mean not undermining my role as his girlfriend. She texts, fb messages, and calls frequently. I know about these contact attempts because he tells me about it. She had her chance. It's gone now. I am his girlfriend and now it's my chance to make him happy. I haven't told him to cease all contact with her because I can't control what he does. BUT, if he continues to communicate with her, I will be gone. Perhaps your EX BOYFRIEND's new GIRLFRIEND has said as much to him and perhaps she means more to him that you do. Let him go and stop trying to undermine her role in his life. It's disrespectful and you know that it is. I find it curious that you can say that she has no personality.
Author some dumb girl Posted May 10, 2009 Author Posted May 10, 2009 You sound A LOT like my dude's ex girlfriend. I could tell you how I feel about her but I doubt it would make a difference to you. I'll say it anyway. You may THINK she doesn't know what happened. And even if he didn't tell her directly. We women can sniff these things out. My guy's ex in my opinion has displayed a blatant disrespect towards me. They had a 6 year friendship before dating and I knew that she was a big part of his life. Had she shown me respect from the get-go, things might have turned out differently. By respect, I mean not undermining my role as his girlfriend. She texts, fb messages, and calls frequently. I know about these contact attempts because he tells me about it. She had her chance. It's gone now. I am his girlfriend and now it's my chance to make him happy. I haven't told him to cease all contact with her because I can't control what he does. BUT, if he continues to communicate with her, I will be gone. Perhaps your EX BOYFRIEND's new GIRLFRIEND has said as much to him and perhaps she means more to him that you do. Let him go and stop trying to undermine her role in his life. It's disrespectful and you know that it is. I find it curious that you can say that she has no personality. So you guys are you just telling me to get out of his life completely or should I just not tell him? I just want to tell him before things get any more serious for them. I can't deal with the fact that they're going to have a baby and I feel like I will never be able to move on. There will always be ways to access his personal life on the internet and our mutual friends are always telling me things about them. I hear things all the time about how they went to puerto rico, how they are trying for a baby, how they're going to new york, etc. and it kills me. and no i never disrespected her ever. I was always very nice to her and suddenly she was the one that hated me. Everytime I had a party at my house he brought her with him and she seemed bored the whole time. Anytime I wanted to hang out with JUST him, she has tagged along and just sits there texting on her phone or not even involved in what we're doing. She's always in her own little world. And yet, I have been nice to her since the very beginning. He did complain at the beginning that she was too much of a goody two shoes, and now he's still with her...they have nothing in common and I hate to see him throw away his life with her. Maybe you haven't stoped to think that YOU aren't right for YOUR boyfriend and giving him an ultimatum like "stop talking to her or I'm leaving" is what's selfish here? And I'm not a man-stealer, I just want to make it obvious how I feel, I just came here for advice on how to tell him. Not to be judged or nagged at.
Tizzy Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 You telling this guy how you feel will be pointless. He is with the woman he wants to be with. I understand how much you like this dude but he has moved on and so should you. I suggest not wasting anymore time, energy or emotions into him and his relationship. Work on getting over him and moving on.
TaraMaiden Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 So you guys are you just telling me to get out of his life completely or should I just not tell him? Get out of his life completely. I just want to tell him before things get any more serious for them. I can't deal with the fact that they're going to have a baby How much more serious than this can they get? you doing this would not make her un-pregnant. he wants to be a father now, to her child. and I feel like I will never be able to move on. THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM. Not his. There will always be ways to access his personal life on the internet and our mutual friends are always telling me things about them. There are always ways to access his life on the internet - but only if you access them. It's like a gun. Completely useless until you pick it up and pull on the trigger. And the moment your friends start talking about him, say immediately "I don't want to hear it!" In fact, actively broadcast the fact amongst them that they are NOT to mention him ever again in your presence. there, that was easy, wasn't it? I hear things all the time about how they went to puerto rico, how they are trying for a baby, how they're going to new york, etc. and it kills me. It only 'kills you' because you let it. And of course, you are full of exaggeration. if it really killed you, you wouldn't be here talking about it, would you? So while I am certain it is painful for you - you can bear it, you know. and no i never disrespected her ever. I was always very nice to her and suddenly she was the one that hated me. Everytime I had a party at my house he brought her with him and she seemed bored the whole time. Anytime I wanted to hang out with JUST him, she has tagged along and just sits there texting on her phone or not even involved in what we're doing. She's always in her own little world. And yet, I have been nice to her since the very beginning. He did complain at the beginning that she was too much of a goody two shoes, and now he's still with her.. So you know, this really is trivia. So what? it is not important to you, the fact is, they are together and you are not with him. You have to make the effort to leave it alone and to move on. .they have nothing in common and I hate to see him throw away his life with her They have each other, and if he chooses to throw his life away with her, that is his choice. They seem compatible, or they would not be an item. You were incompatible with him, which is why you are not together any more. Don't you see this? Maybe you haven't stoped to think that YOU aren't right for YOUR boyfriend and giving him an ultimatum like "stop talking to her or I'm leaving" is what's selfish here? My compatibility with my boyfriend is not your business. And their compatibility is also not your business.... And I'm not a man-stealer, I just want to make it obvious how I feel, I just came here for advice on how to tell him. Not to be judged or nagged at. Nobody is judging you or nagging you. WE are all telling you what you do not want to hear, which is leave it alone and walk away. You have not received any advice on telling him how you feel because we all know what a bad idea it would be, and how without any doubt it will fire back on you.
era Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 some dumb girl... Well..I must say : it's been a long, long time since I've read a post from someone as DELUSIONAL as you. Very sad.
AlektraClementine Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 So you guys are you just telling me to get out of his life completely or should I just not tell him? I just want to tell him before things get any more serious for them. I can't deal with the fact that they're going to have a baby and I feel like I will never be able to move on. There will always be ways to access his personal life on the internet and our mutual friends are always telling me things about them. I hear things all the time about how they went to puerto rico, how they are trying for a baby, how they're going to new york, etc. and it kills me. and no i never disrespected her ever. I was always very nice to her and suddenly she was the one that hated me. Everytime I had a party at my house he brought her with him and she seemed bored the whole time. Anytime I wanted to hang out with JUST him, she has tagged along and just sits there texting on her phone or not even involved in what we're doing. She's always in her own little world. And yet, I have been nice to her since the very beginning. He did complain at the beginning that she was too much of a goody two shoes, and now he's still with her...they have nothing in common and I hate to see him throw away his life with her. Maybe you haven't stoped to think that YOU aren't right for YOUR boyfriend and giving him an ultimatum like "stop talking to her or I'm leaving" is what's selfish here? And I'm not a man-stealer, I just want to make it obvious how I feel, I just came here for advice on how to tell him. Not to be judged or nagged at. Well that's just silly. In order to give advice, one must make a determination, or rather, a judgement. My advice is to leave him alone. You disrespect her by contacting him. That's her boyfriend. You are not a friend, you are an ex-girlfriend. She has every right to not want you contacting him. As you have said, YOU initiate the contact, not him. No I haven't stopped to think about whether or not I'M not right for HIM. I'll let him make that determination. In my case, my boyfriend does not contact the ex. She makes the contact attempts. My ultimatum was my choice. I choose not to be in a relationship with someone who has unfinished ex business. If she means that much to him, by all means, he can go back to that mess. If we are to build a future, she cannot be in it. Like I said before, had she shown respect from the beginning...perhaps things would be different. My guess is that your behavior has tipped her off to what happened between the two of you. How on earth can you say that you've not been disrespectful to her when you clearly admit that you fooled around with her boyfriend. Put the shoe on the other foot for a sec. Let's say you do get him back. You infiltrate the system successfully. You guys are dating again and all is right in your world. Then... she starts texting him or sending him fb messages. She posts on loveshack about how you are so wrong for him and etc... What would you do? Not asking how you would feel, but what you would do. Please answer that question.
AlektraClementine Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Nobody is judging you or nagging you. WE are all telling you what you do not want to hear, which is leave it alone and walk away. You have not received any advice on telling him how you feel because we all know what a bad idea it would be, and how without any doubt it will fire back on you. You know, I'm inclined to advise her to go ahead and tell him. She's probably going to anyway and she probably needs a good dose of reality. She claims that she isn't disrespecting this girl, yet her intentions are in fact, to "steal" from her.
dreamergrl Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Ah, I remember recently being the gf in this story not to long ago. The only difference is we were together like 3 weeks instead of three months, and we only made it as far as being together for three months instead of a year and half. I'm sorry OP, but I don't feel bad for you at all. Don't ever try getting involved with a guy who has a gf. It's not cool. I don't think you care though, about anyone but yourself.
TaraMaiden Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 You know, I'm inclined to advise her to go ahead and tell him. She's probably going to anyway and she probably needs a good dose of reality. She claims that she isn't disrespecting this girl, yet her intentions are in fact, to "steal" from her. well, perhaps you are right... we can tell and tell a child to not touch the fire because it will burn, but only direct experience provides the suitable pain to prove the parent correct.... _/l\_
Kamille Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Somehow, your story brings me right back to my first heartbreak. I was in my early twenties, convinced he was the right man for me and I was the right girl for him. Our relationship lasted 8 months and it took me over a year to get over him. More time spent being heart-broken then in love. Years later, I'm thankful things didn't work out and realize that what made us compatible was also what made us a bad match for the long-run. At the time, my friends all rallied behind me, feeding me stories about his new girlfriend, telling me I was prettier then her, nicer, funnyer, what have you. I would always manage to find out that they fought all the time. While I didn't feel like I was actively seeking out this information, I wasn't tuning it out either. Fortunately, the internet barely existed at the time, so I had no other means of keeping track of him. I did, however, make sure to hang out where I knew he would be hanging out, and yes, we were trying to be friends... This friendship was often him turning to me when he needed an ego-boost. He also wouldn't expand too much on his relationship - or would only talk about it when they were facing problems, which would lead me to believe he was ambivalent about it, when really, I now realize that all it meant was that he was playing me, and keeping me on the backburner. The thing is: I was letting him put me in this position because I believed in my heart of heart that I loved him and that we were meant to be together. He married that woman, had a child with her and they are now divorced. Turns out he was a deadbeat dad. I wouldn't trade places with her for the world. (And you want to know the best part, through a series of work-related circumstances, she and I are now friends.) Not only that, but when I think back to the plans he and I had made, I realize I wouldn't have led the interesting life that I have, or fallen in love with a man who was a 100 times a better match for me (not that that worked out either, but you never regret true love.) So you guys are you just telling me to get out of his life completely or should I just not tell him? I just want to tell him before things get any more serious for them. Ok, how about this: tell him how you feel and make a pact with yourself that you will ACCEPT whatever his answer is. If it's no, you have to let go, you hear? Also, remember, you cannot accept ambivalence: "I love you as a friend" or "you mean a lot to me BUT", or any variation there of is a NO. Ambivalence would mean that this man doesn't have your well-being as a priority. That he can accept to see you keep hanging on, even though he knows this isn't fair to you. Tell him so that you can finally move on. I can't deal with the fact that they're going to have a baby and I feel like I will never be able to move on. You know why you can't move on? Because you've never entertained the possibility that he isn't your true love. Now I want you to step back, and imagine a complete stranger, and imagine that you fall in love with him. Think about that relationship, and how good you feel in it. How nurtured, and how loved. Stop thinking with your broken heart and start thinking about your well-being. There will always be ways to access his personal life on the internet and our mutual friends are always telling me things about them. I hear things all the time about how they went to puerto rico, how they are trying for a baby, how they're going to new york, etc. and it kills me. I think one of the reasons you are shocked at the answers you are getting here is because you've managed to surround yourself with friends who support your broken heart - in the name of supporting you. They're not the same. As Tara Maiden pointed out, tell your friends you no longer want to hear it, and BLOCK and delete him and her from all your applications. If he cares at all for your well-being, he will understand. The bottom line is: this isn't healthy for you. You seem to think that the only solution to your pain is for the two of you to end up together. So your priority is imagining ways for this to happen. It's not. The one solution to your pain is for you to stop focusing on your well-being, and to start making THAT your priority. You'll start seeing the situation in a whole new light and you will finally heal.
smookie Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 If you have never disrespected him then what are you doing now!?????? I do not call that respect. He loves her he wants her. he is over you. THEY ARE TRYING TO HAVE A BABY!!! HELLO WAKE UP AND STAY AWAY FROM HIM. Wow she is rigth you are lost child.
missdependant Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 I really don't know what to tell you. I see you headed in the same direction as my boyfriend's ex. At this point, we've had to change ALL of our contact informaton and just recently had a restraining order instated. I hope you can get help with this.. just move on. Have you considered that there are other men out there who are ACTUALLY interested in you out there? Men who aren't in relationships or devoted to someone else?? You are being very selfish and VERY disrespectful to her. If you were respectful you would leave them alone and let them live their lives. Don't bother telling him how you feel, obviously it sounds like a horrible idea! You are headed straight for heartbreak, and you will ruin any friendship that you two have now. Have you tried to make ammends with his girlfriend? I don't mean becoming her friend... but at least settling whatever dust is there?
era Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Have you tried to make ammends with his girlfriend? LOL!!!.. That's probably the last thing she wants to do..she wants the g/f out of the picture. She's consumed with irrational thoughts.
tkgirl Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Somehow, your story brings me right back to my first heartbreak. I was in my early twenties, convinced he was the right man for me and I was the right girl for him. Our relationship lasted 8 months and it took me over a year to get over him. More time spent being heart-broken then in love. Years later, I'm thankful things didn't work out and realize that what made us compatible was also what made us a bad match for the long-run. At the time, my friends all rallied behind me, feeding me stories about his new girlfriend, telling me I was prettier then her, nicer, funnyer, what have you. I would always manage to find out that they fought all the time. While I didn't feel like I was actively seeking out this information, I wasn't tuning it out either. Fortunately, the internet barely existed at the time, so I had no other means of keeping track of him. I did, however, make sure to hang out where I knew he would be hanging out, and yes, we were trying to be friends... This friendship was often him turning to me when he needed an ego-boost. He also wouldn't expand too much on his relationship - or would only talk about it when they were facing problems, which would lead me to believe he was ambivalent about it, when really, I now realize that all it meant was that he was playing me, and keeping me on the backburner. The thing is: I was letting him put me in this position because I believed in my heart of heart that I loved him and that we were meant to be together. He married that woman, had a child with her and they are now divorced. Turns out he was a deadbeat dad. I wouldn't trade places with her for the world. (And you want to know the best part, through a series of work-related circumstances, she and I are now friends.) Not only that, but when I think back to the plans he and I had made, I realize I wouldn't have led the interesting life that I have, or fallen in love with a man who was a 100 times a better match for me (not that that worked out either, but you never regret true love.) Ok, how about this: tell him how you feel and make a pact with yourself that you will ACCEPT whatever his answer is. If it's no, you have to let go, you hear? Also, remember, you cannot accept ambivalence: "I love you as a friend" or "you mean a lot to me BUT", or any variation there of is a NO. Ambivalence would mean that this man doesn't have your well-being as a priority. That he can accept to see you keep hanging on, even though he knows this isn't fair to you. Tell him so that you can finally move on. You know why you can't move on? Because you've never entertained the possibility that he isn't your true love. Now I want you to step back, and imagine a complete stranger, and imagine that you fall in love with him. Think about that relationship, and how good you feel in it. How nurtured, and how loved. Stop thinking with your broken heart and start thinking about your well-being. I think one of the reasons you are shocked at the answers you are getting here is because you've managed to surround yourself with friends who support your broken heart - in the name of supporting you. They're not the same. As Tara Maiden pointed out, tell your friends you no longer want to hear it, and BLOCK and delete him and her from all your applications. If he cares at all for your well-being, he will understand. The bottom line is: this isn't healthy for you. You seem to think that the only solution to your pain is for the two of you to end up together. So your priority is imagining ways for this to happen. It's not. The one solution to your pain is for you to stop focusing on your well-being, and to start making THAT your priority. You'll start seeing the situation in a whole new light and you will finally heal. wow Kamille, you rock! so, some dumb girl, if you are not too "dumb", listen to (and apply) everything Kamille wrote... she gave you GREAT advice! or go ahead and tell him... and learn the hard way.
IrishCarBomb Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 I'm not a man-stealer, I just want to make it obvious how I feel. I'm not a cheater, I just want to have sex with women that are not my wife, without my wife finding out. But let me be clear: I am NOT A CHEATER (even though my actions are 100% consistent with being a cheater, don't you dare call me a cheater, because cheaters are bad people and I am a good person and above such petty labels). Why don't you all see my pure love for these random sk@nks and look above my concrete actions? Why can't you all see my pure and divine love? Why do you all JUDGE ME?!?!?
tkgirl Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 I'm not a cheater, I just want to have sex with women that are not my wife, without my wife finding out. But let me be clear: I am NOT A CHEATER (even though my actions are 100% consistent with being a cheater, don't you dare call me a cheater, because cheaters are bad people and I am a good person and above such petty labels). Why don't you all see my pure love for these random sk@nks and look above my concrete actions? Why can't you all see my pure and divine love? Why do you all JUDGE ME?!?!? good one, ICB!
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