MeaganRaye Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 Has any women here been involved with a man where you gave him companionship and in return he gave you money/gifts? I know a few women who are in arrangements like that, some of the men paid for their college education and they claim they didn't have to have sex with them. One of them told me about a website where you can get a sugardaddy, but some of the men on there seem kind of creepy:sick:
Yamaha Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 Yes. I'm sure there are loads of old guys just wanting a young girls company with no sex involved. This sounds like a women's fantasy and not reality. If a guy gives you money and gifts he is going to want something in return and I don't think your company will fill his needs.
Author MeaganRaye Posted May 4, 2009 Author Posted May 4, 2009 Yes. I'm sure there are loads of old guys just wanting a young girls company with no sex involved. This sounds like a women's fantasy and not reality. If a guy gives you money and gifts he is going to want something in return and I don't think your company will fill his needs. I figured they were lying about it. They are probably doing something for them in return
Ruby Slippers Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 A situation like that would be easy to find, but no, I'm not a prostitute.
BCCA Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 Trust me, they are having sex with these guys. Do you really think its worth much to have someone over to watch the Office with you? Or eat dinner with you? Maybe the price of a pizza, but if theyre paying for college tuition, they are sex toys plain and simple. If you really want to objectify yourself in this way, think hard. Its litterally prostitution. You would be a hooker, in so many words. Come on, youre better than that.
Author MeaganRaye Posted May 4, 2009 Author Posted May 4, 2009 Trust me, they are having sex with these guys. Do you really think its worth much to have someone over to watch the Office with you? Or eat dinner with you? Maybe the price of a pizza, but if theyre paying for college tuition, they are sex toys plain and simple. If you really want to objectify yourself in this way, think hard. Its litterally prostitution. You would be a hooker, in so many words. Come on, youre better than that. Okay. I had set up a profile on the sugardaddy site, stating that NO SEX, would be involved. I still got quite a few replies from a lot of men, but they are rarely single men though.
BCCA Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 Okay. I had set up a profile on the sugardaddy site, stating that NO SEX, would be involved. I still got quite a few replies from a lot of men, but they are rarely single men though. Let me ask you this, why are you even considering this? Do you need money? Because I cant believe you would walk into a house where a guy was paying for your companionship, and not think he would want sex. And they probably think you only put that there was no sex involved because they didnt want to get busted by the cops. Ask yourself why someone would PAY MONEY just to have you, with all your clothes on, around? Come on, theyre going to want something demeaning, be it lap dances, oral sex, or something like that. People dont just pay money to have someone come hang out and watch TV, thats what friends are for. And you should never just walk into some strange house/hotel with a guy thats paying money and not expect him to get grabby or want to see some skin. Youre almost asking to be raped or assualted here, be smarter than that!
burning 4 revenge Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 Trust me, they are having sex with these guys. Do you really think its worth much to have someone over to watch the Office with you? Or eat dinner with you? Maybe the price of a pizza, but if theyre paying for college tuition, they are sex toys plain and simple. If you really want to objectify yourself in this way, think hard. Its litterally prostitution. You would be a hooker, in so many words. Come on, youre better than that. What makes you think shes better than that
Author MeaganRaye Posted May 5, 2009 Author Posted May 5, 2009 Let me ask you this, why are you even considering this? Do you need money? Because I cant believe you would walk into a house where a guy was paying for your companionship, and not think he would want sex. And they probably think you only put that there was no sex involved because they didnt want to get busted by the cops. Ask yourself why someone would PAY MONEY just to have you, with all your clothes on, around? Come on, theyre going to want something demeaning, be it lap dances, oral sex, or something like that. People dont just pay money to have someone come hang out and watch TV, thats what friends are for. And you should never just walk into some strange house/hotel with a guy thats paying money and not expect him to get grabby or want to see some skin. Youre almost asking to be raped or assualted here, be smarter than that! This girl that told me about the site and sugardaddies in general said that there are older men who just want company, some kind of emotional connection wtih a younger woman, and it doesn't involve sex. They are lonely and want someone to listen to their problems. She claims to have a sugardaddy and it does not involve sex of any kind. Whenever she needs something, he is there to give it to her. He got her a new laptop for school and everything. He pays her cell phone bill, and car note as well. She stresses she didn't have to do anything sexual for it.
Lindarose84 Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 MeaganRaye, Not going to come down on you like everyone else on this thread but I will say this: I think you should think long and hard before you do something like that. I think your friend is lying to you in order to save face after all, who would actually admit to being a bona fide prostitute? That is ultimately what it is no matter how many different ways you color it- your body (whether it is used in what you deem to be a sexual way) is being exchanged for money. Period. If you got the sense that the guys on that site were creepy, chances are, they really are. Go with your gut. No one here knows the situation you're in financially which is why I'm not quick to jump on you (when that light bill comes and it's between feeding your kid or paying the bill, a lot of things go through peoples heads as to what they'd do to make sure their kids weren't having to eat in the dark), but I just think you should think long and hard before you embark down that path because once you walk it, there's usually no coming back...
soserious1 Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 No but I've been a Sugar Momma, who not only paid the bills but slept on the sofa for a solid year.
Jersey Shortie Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 I dated an older man that offered to pay for my college education. I didn't take it but I won't pretend the option wasn't attractive. Honestly, I think people are being harsh here. No one condemns a man for enjoying a hot woman's sexy body. Why should we condemn women for enjoying a man's hot money?
burning 4 revenge Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 I dated an older man that offered to pay for my college education. I didn't take it but I won't pretend the option wasn't attractive. Honestly, I think people are being harsh here. No one condemns a man for enjoying a hot woman's sexy body. Why should we condemn women for enjoying a man's hot money? well because it's mutual exploitation Jersey Shorty
Jersey Shortie Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 what's mutual exploitation? Seriously, alot of men go on and on about how it's okay to use any means possible to get their sexual needs men. Why shouldn't a woman take advantage of financial oppurtunities? So what if she exchanges sex for money? That means she is a bad person? How so? Doesn't the man know what's going on? Unless she is tying him to the bed and stealing his wallet, I don't see how a "prostitute" is immoral. Seems kind of old school backwards thinking to condemn a prostitute on "morals". Maybe we should all wait until we are married before we have sex too. After all, that's techniqually immoral right? Personally, throwing the word "prostitute" around like it's a horrible immoral thing confuses me. I don't promote prostitution but I certainly don't think women are bad or immoral for being prostitutes.
voldigicam Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 The "sugar daddy" thing generally involves sex. The "daddy's girl" thing doesn't always. Usually, yes. The key is the age play aspect. Many variations. I like it. I can understand someone with lots of surplus cash enjoying supporting some nice young thing who would spend time with me. I have no doubt such arrangements exist, but are less usual than the sex based ones. There are also non-payment mutual daddy/girl relationships of various types, including non-sexual ones. Usually this involves strong age play. Not necessarily in words or actions, but in function. The older listens without judgment, provide encouragement, gentle guidance. The younger enjoys being guided, being a daughter role person. This can go from entirely non-physical through snuggling. My girl (almost 30 years younger) is married with a young (very young) son who thinks of me as "grandpa." We typically IM a good deal. Our usual IRL contact involves walking and talking. Sometime sitting on a pack bench. The more physically close we get, the quieter and more girlish she gets. On rare occasions, we have a chance to get together and really snuggle. She's a sort of hard girl mostly, but melts next to me, nestles right into me and softens. Something I miss with my real daughter. This is surprisingly non-sexual. So is it always about sex? No! However, anyone in their 30s to mid 40s seems likely to expect sex. I'm older. Sex I can get. A surprising number of volunteers appear. I've stopped taking them up on their offers. My real need turns out to be a girl to listen to, to feel dozing against my chest.
O'Malley Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 Another thing to consider... if one of them were to ask you to perform some sort of sexual favor, will it be tempting for you to do so, whether for money or because you are pressured? You'll be confronted with this so you need to know whether you can stand firm or not. I'd also add that in some of these arrangements that the 'sugardaddy' will erroneously believe that he has purchased you, not just your companionship and/or sexual services. Some won't hesitate to make you feel indebted more than you should.
2sunny Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 i think you need to ask yourself and explore through counseling what you lack in order to consider all the scenarios that you have presented since arriving at this forum. you have considered your boss, a MM... now a sugardaddy. why is it always a man that is unavailable for the whole package? why the need to always sell yourself short for the full commitment? is it intimacy that you aren't capable of?
wierdmunky Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 I think it's a fine line. You never really know what you are walking into in that kind of a situation, and it has a lot of potential bad in it. You can't really tell anyone what to do with their body, but I know that I consider mine something more than just money's worth. If someone could permanently hurt me in a way that might alter my life forever by me entering a known high risky situation, and I had somewhat of a choice in it, I would most likely not take that one. It's risky, and I would be careful. Then again, if you were in a life and death situation as far as survival goes, how big of a gap in choice is that to some people. The word morals is conformity to the rules of right conduct; moral or virtuous conduct. You could argue that this would be high vs. low morals, and not immorality itself if you don't want to label right and wrongs in other people's lives, but I would still take a stand in what I think is right and wrong.
You'reasian Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 what's mutual exploitation? Seriously, alot of men go on and on about how it's okay to use any means possible to get their sexual needs men. Why shouldn't a woman take advantage of financial oppurtunities? So what if she exchanges sex for money? That means she is a bad person? How so? Doesn't the man know what's going on? Unless she is tying him to the bed and stealing his wallet, I don't see how a "prostitute" is immoral. Seems kind of old school backwards thinking to condemn a prostitute on "morals". Maybe we should all wait until we are married before we have sex too. After all, that's techniqually immoral right? Personally, throwing the word "prostitute" around like it's a horrible immoral thing confuses me. I don't promote prostitution but I certainly don't think women are bad or immoral for being prostitutes. Here you are justifiying prostitution and in other posts you argue against porn and stripping
Lucky_One Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 Why am I NOT suprised that you actually put a profile up on that site? Meagan, I am being dead serious here. if your self-esteem is so in the toilet about not being able to find a boyfriend or about not ever feeling like anyone wants you, letting someone pay to have sex with you isn't going to make you feel any better. Besides - if this poor sugardaddy happens to tell you how proud he is of his wife or kids for one of their accomplishments, you will try to happily destroyl his life. I suggest you seek some sort of counseling. I really, really do.
boldjack Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 Meagan, great idea, answer one of the ads, he fixes you a drink, the next thing you know you are being sold to the highest bidder in Morocco.
Author MeaganRaye Posted May 5, 2009 Author Posted May 5, 2009 what's mutual exploitation? Seriously, alot of men go on and on about how it's okay to use any means possible to get their sexual needs men. Why shouldn't a woman take advantage of financial oppurtunities? So what if she exchanges sex for money? That means she is a bad person? How so? Doesn't the man know what's going on? Unless she is tying him to the bed and stealing his wallet, I don't see how a "prostitute" is immoral. Seems kind of old school backwards thinking to condemn a prostitute on "morals". Maybe we should all wait until we are married before we have sex too. After all, that's techniqually immoral right? Personally, throwing the word "prostitute" around like it's a horrible immoral thing confuses me. I don't promote prostitution but I certainly don't think women are bad or immoral for being prostitutes. Good point. I spoke to a few of the men off of the site, one is a certified creep, he kept breathing heavy into the phone and talking about sex. But the other one seems to be legit, but I am going to be careful, he seems a bit too good to be true.
Author MeaganRaye Posted May 5, 2009 Author Posted May 5, 2009 I think it takes a female who is very street-smart and well aware of the way men operate to be able to pull off this type of "job" (for lack of a better word). I would think seriously about this before you act on it... may not be worth the risk you'll be taking when dealing with the creepy guys out there. You're right it does. I'm not the most street smart, but I know I will be very careful (meet in public places, carry a weapon like a flashlight, mini baseball bat in my purse in case I need to strike) Another thing to consider... if one of them were to ask you to perform some sort of sexual favor, will it be tempting for you to do so, whether for money or because you are pressured? You'll be confronted with this so you need to know whether you can stand firm or not. I will stand firm, I defintely won't do it. I make it clear that they are not getting sex in return.
GorillaTheater Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 Jesus Meagan, how about a relatively normal relationship with a single guy? Is it the fact that there wouldn't be near as much drama or likelihood of being raped and/or murdered? What's with the fascination with being an OW or with "Sugar Daddy" crap? For chissakes girl, grow the hell up.
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