Never ever had a girlfriend in my entire life.

April 28, 2009

Is it normal to have never had an adult relationship by 25? Or have I clearly suffered some sort of emotional damge that basically means by that age if you don't have one something is seriously wrong. I think there is something wrong with me and that I am some sort of emotional spastic.

There is one girl at work. She does something stupid to do with something that isn't related to what I do so therefore I don't care but I think she is really nice. She is religious which is kinda good because it means she is not a raving slut and that she would get married and likely stay married.

She also very nice to people and brings salad sandwhiches from home and has an old phone. Such terrific qualities as it shows she is not materialistic.

I saw her outside the main building and she said she was waiting for her friends so I spoke to her until her friends arrived. I am normally a very loud and annoying person who has been compared to a smart version of Peter Griffin. When I spoke to her that time I was not loud and spoke in a very not loud voice and I think she picked up on the fact that I liked her at some point in the conversation because she looked at me inquisitively.

I was also shy because I know the she is a much more beautiful than any girl I could get and I am a big ugly man so she wouldn't want to date me ever. I was very reserved and quite when we spoke.....

I think this is another one of life futilities because I know that she wouldn't want to be my girlfriend but I hold out hope that she won't be shallow because of.... the fact she is so nice and is religious.

I think it would be very nice to have a smart pretty girl like that want to be my girlfriend but it is one of lifes tortures because it won't happen which just leaves people like me feeling sad.

Maybe there is someone fat, ugly, stupid and mean enough to want to go out with me and I don't think I would go out with her because she is going to be horrible nor would I be attracted to her.

Not crazy religious I checked that bit out first.

I'm also sad about work because I am not getting enough guidance to undertake tasks and people are making fun of my projects but I am like 'what the hell can I do I am the new guy and the big boss wants some crazy idea done'....... I think they understand and are not trying to be mean but it is pretty funny to be honest.

I guess I'll just have to show them like I usually show most people eventually. I never give up and I am stubborn and smart although crap at succeeding in my short life.

A girlfriend would be nice but I guess only nice good people who don't fail at things get to have girlfriends. Maybe I should just be single forever...

Why does this have to be so hard ? Back to my original question do you think I am a crazy person who is an emotional spastic because I've never had a relationship by 25 years old..

I feel like I should be on a radio show or on a television show called ' someone date the ugly emotional retard to shut him up'.

PS the grammatical mistakes and incoherency exist because it ammuses me to sound like a retard.

April 28, 2009

Dude, no offence, but I thought I had problems until reading this. I think you have issues with self esteem here and you mention that this girl is religious therefore she can't be a raving slut, time to wake up dude, I don't know what experience of women you have had but I can assure you just because she's religious it does not mean she is not one. How do you know what goes on in her life after work ? I've met plenty of girls claiming to be religious and then seen them in clubs pulling guys on the weekend. But then again that does not mean to say all girls that don't follow religion are sluts, again, i've met plenty of girls like that too. I really think you need to concentrate on your self esteem before even trying to pursue this girl, as if you get rejected by her in your state now, then I can only assume its gonna be bad news for you emotionally (would someone like to correct me if i'm wrong here)...

Another thing, don't concentrate on this one person either, maybe you need to join a gym, play sports or other activities that get you out meeting other people which will hopefully be females. I'm sure your not the only one in your position, i bet there are many people including females are in the same position as you, i guess its just how they deal with it that puts them on the other side of the fence. Maybe this girl does like you (don't get your hopes up) but would'nt she rather hear you talking about something that your actively involved in rather than you being reserved and quiet (in my eyes, instant turn-off for a woman), but don't be too cocky either.

Anyway, like I said, concentrate on yout self esteem first before pursuing any woman. Then head out there and enjoy the dating game...

April 28, 2009

I'm new on here so have not read his previous posts, but sotired is also so right. You aint getting nowhere with that attitude on women dude. Maybe you should see a counseller or something.

April 28, 2009

UUUMMM yeah right I don't talk to women like that in real life it is just that the ones here are usually feminists who hate men..

April 28, 2009

UUUMMM yeah right I don't talk to women like that in real life it is just that the ones here are usually feminists who hate men..

Why do all the bitter nasty men always point the finger at women? I cant Imagen why women don't like them.

What when they have such nice things to always say about women insert boreds rant about fat people right about here *******

OK now moving on lol... Your hoping this women isn't shallow why your shallow why shouldn't she also be shallow and reject you?

Oh boy I feel a Joygasm coming on! I just love BPs threads lol...

April 28, 2009

Why do all the bitter nasty men always point the finger at women? I cant Imagen why women don't like them.

What when they have such nice things to always say about women insert boreds rant about fat people right about here *******

OK now moving on lol... Your hoping this women isn't shallow why your shallow why shouldn't she also be shallow and reject you?

Oh boy I feel a Joygasm coming on! I just love BPs threads lol...

LMAO - I love you, STM. If I were into chicks, I'd want to marry you.

April 28, 2009

Why do all the bitter nasty men always point the finger at women? I cant Imagen why women don't like them.

What when they have such nice things to always say about women insert boreds rant about fat people right about here *******

OK now moving on lol... Your hoping this women isn't shallow why your shallow why shouldn't she also be shallow and reject you?

Oh boy I feel a Joygasm coming on! I just love BPs threads lol...

I'm sorry that you are overweight and that no one wants you because you are overweight. There is also another reason and that is because you actually are very bitter and you hate men. You should read all of the negative sexist comments that come from women on this forum. Even happy healthy women like trial by fire will attack men who are only coming here because they are lonely and looking for support.

You should have a good look in the mirrow before you attack men and see that a lot of what you are condemning you do yourself.

Men are more visual creatures that women and we do not like women that are fat that is a fact of life that you need to learn to deal with. Just like men have to live with that women only want us for our money and stability in our jobs. I accepted that and went and got a better job now I get more respect from women but they won't date me because I am an ugly person.

You could jus lose weight and your problems would be over. So instead of yelling at me and getting all idignant because you are upset about your own life why don't you put down the BBQ chicken and hit the gym. Leave people like me who are just sad and looking for support alone.

April 28, 2009

Before you say that I am materialistic, yes a girl needs to have a good body and a pretty face so that I want to have sex with her but she does not need to be one of those skany over sexed models that all the girls try to imitate.

A nice white, healthy smoothe body is good enough and I don't mind about much else in terms of how she looks as long as she has some pretty features and isn't as fat as a cow.

There was this one girl that was a bit overweight but she had a very good personality and we went out one night and were walking home and I said something mean by mistake. She acted like she was very upset and and so I got down on one knee and told her that she was the best and most beautiful person ever. She kind of went 'aaawww' and then forgave me for being mean but she I knew I liked her and she told me that she just didn't feel anything for me. I was very sad when she rejected me.

There was another girl that I really liked and she was very pretty we used to live in the same apartment building and I worked at a warehouse and she worked at a bar down the road. I would always see her on the way home from work and we'd get off at the same stop and walk towards our houses together and talk to each other. At that stage she was one of the only people in the world that talked to me and I thought everything of her just because I can't explain how good it is to be so lonely and have some pretty little bouncy girl that talks to you and wants to hear what you have to say.

I would go and visit her and we'd talk to each other but I was all the fool because maybe she thought I was some sort of strange stalker. I am very sad that maybe she had never any feelings for me at all but she was still a very nice happy girl. I think she finished her university and had honours but cannot find a job and works at some bar now.

One day I built up the courage to ask her out and she said that she did not feel a spark for me. She was they kind of girl that wanted a man with a good job and I could not provide that apart from being ugly.

My friends used to say (because I made some after a while) that she was not that hot and that I was silly for being so hung up on her but I always thought she was the perfect girl.

I just want to have one woman that will want to be my girlfriend so that I don't have to worry about this silly dating nonsense that people always do all of the time. Like peoples feelings are some big game and you can just discard a person when you get sick of them as though they were a playing card that you can just bring into your life and throw away. That is a cold an un-natural place I do not want to go.

April 28, 2009

Are all of your problems self inflicted?

April 28, 2009

Are all of your problems self inflicted?

I don't know what are self inflicted problems because that depends on the person asking the question. There are people who will say that many things which are not self inflicted are self inflicted because they are mean spirited and cruel. I am not mean spirited unlike many people in the world at the moment. So when you say that you think my problems are self inflicted you should think very carefully about which side of the fence you are sitting on because it is very easy to judge someone when you do not have to deal with all of the facts. The only person who can possibly do that is the person that is living in their own shoes.

But there have always been people sitting in their ivory towers and sheltered from the world who have passed judgement on other people who are poor. Like in the 18 century when they used to seal the hull of the ships and to seal the workers inside was probably considered by the factory owner to be self inflicted problems as they are not men of quality.

April 28, 2009

I don't know what are self inflicted problems because that depends on the person asking the question. There are people who will say that many things which are not self inflicted are self inflicted because they are mean spirited and cruel. I am not mean spirited unlike many people in the world at the moment. So when you say that you think my problems are self inflicted you should think very carefully about which side of the fence you are sitting on because it is very easy to judge someone when you do not have to deal with all of the facts. The only person who can possibly do that is the person that is living in their own shoes.

But there have always been people sitting in their ivory towers and sheltered from the world who have passed judgement on other people who are poor. Like in the 18 century when they used to seal the hull of the ships and to seal the workers inside was probably considered by the factory owner to be self inflicted problems as they are not men of quality.

That was a pretty harsh attack in response to a simple question, don't you think? A skill you would do well to learn is to be able to view situations that involve you neutrally. You naturally have a bias to your own situation, but if you can put that aside and look at what you are doing in this thread alone you would have a revelation.

Whenever you ask a question or petition advice, it would pay to be prepared for the fact that you might not like the response. At some point a concession needs to be made that the problem might not be everyone else.

April 28, 2009

There was this one girl that was a bit overweight but she had a very good personality and we went out one night and were walking home and I said something mean by mistake. She acted like she was very upset and and so I got down on one knee and told her that she was the best and most beautiful person ever. She kind of went 'aaawww' and then forgave me for being mean but she I knew I liked her and she told me that she just didn't feel anything for me. I was very sad when she rejected me.

There was another girl that I really liked and she was very pretty we used to live in the same apartment building and I worked at a warehouse and she worked at a bar down the road. I would always see her on the way home from work and we'd get off at the same stop and walk towards our houses together and talk to each other. At that stage she was one of the only people in the world that talked to me and I thought everything of her just because I can't explain how good it is to be so lonely and have some pretty little bouncy girl that talks to you and wants to hear what you have to say.

I would go and visit her and we'd talk to each other but I was all the fool because maybe she thought I was some sort of strange stalker. I am very sad that maybe she had never any feelings for me at all but she was still a very nice happy girl. I think she finished her university and had honours but cannot find a job and works at some bar now.

One day I built up the courage to ask her out and she said that she did not feel a spark for me. She was they kind of girl that wanted a man with a good job and I could not provide that apart from being ugly.

My friends used to say (because I made some after a while) that she was not that hot and that I was silly for being so hung up on her but I always thought she was the perfect girl.

I just want to have one woman that will want to be my girlfriend so that I don't have to worry about this silly dating nonsense that people always do all of the time. Like peoples feelings are some big game and you can just discard a person when you get sick of them as though they were a playing card that you can just bring into your life and throw away. That is a cold an un-natural place I do not want to go.

First, if you are a bit of loud jackass type normally, and that kinda works for you socially, don't change too much when there's a girl you like. They can tell you are desperate to please and that is a big turn off. You may even get put in the 'stalker' camp if you are too meek and unconfident.

The girl that acted offended when you said something 'mean' may have been testing you with her upsetness, and by caving and begging for forgiveness you failed the test. It certainly didn't make her find you more attractive, did it? Conversely, the type of men that WITTILY tease women enjoy great success - even sometimes if they are fat and ugly.

I know you think you just want to find one nice girl and avoid 'dating' but that's unlikely to pay off. Girls tend to like men that have some experience or could find another woman without too much trouble. You need to develop your skills on a wide array of women, whether dating or not. Make them laugh, make them think you don't need their approval. Be fun to be around, and don't act needy. You are only 25, with some research, effort, practice and a few rejections under your belt, you could be in a much better place before you know it. What's the alternative?

April 28, 2009

I'm sorry that you are overweight and that no one wants you because you are overweight. There is also another reason and that is because you actually are very bitter and you hate men. You should read all of the negative sexist comments that come from women on this forum. Even happy healthy women like trial by fire will attack men who are only coming here because they are lonely and looking for support.

You should have a good look in the mirrow before you attack men and see that a lot of what you are condemning you do yourself.

Men are more visual creatures that women and we do not like women that are fat that is a fact of life that you need to learn to deal with. Just like men have to live with that women only want us for our money and stability in our jobs. I accepted that and went and got a better job now I get more respect from women but they won't date me because I am an ugly person.

You could jus lose weight and your problems would be over. So instead of yelling at me and getting all idignant because you are upset about your own life why don't you put down the BBQ chicken and hit the gym. Leave people like me who are just sad and looking for support alone.

Wow thank you yes thank you for showing me the error of my ways! Omg thats it OMG I'm fat really??? I am no shi*t? lmfao...

:lmao: Well I guess your wrong that no one wants me Ive been talking to a very nice man as of late who completely adores me.

Despite my weight matter of fact he only dates overweight women and if things don't work out there I have a few others lined up I'm far from a man hater baby lol.

Dam sorry WRONG ANSWER please try again maybe you could win our consolation prize a life time of hand lotion god knows you'll need it!

Look you sad little meat sack no one wants you because your a miserable excuse for a human being. **** even the other bitter men on here think you need to grow up.

You whine worse then a rusty old door hinge in the rain weight/looks doesn't condemn any one person to a life of loneliness their actions/attitude do.

The sooner you can grow up and realize that the better off you will be until then best of luck with that hot gym girl hows that going? You got any other words of wisdom there?

If so BRING IT long as your a jerk and disrespectful to all the women here I'll be right here to shove it right back in your sweaty lil pork chop lovin shallow face :lmao:

April 28, 2009

LMAO - I love you, STM. If I were into chicks, I'd want to marry you.

LoL thanks soul..

I'm just sick of this guy and his rotten attitude always putting people down on here and then crying and whining about his sh*t life.

Like were all suppose to feel bad boohoo I'm a nasty vulgar Lil man who cant get a hot chick to love me boohoo ... grow up..:sick: But me and him do agree on 2 things 1. he is def ugly and not on the outside and 2. He is also a very sad man..

April 28, 2009

Wow thank you yes thank you for showing me the error of my ways! Omg thats it OMG I'm fat really??? I am no shi*t? lmfao...

:lmao: Well I guess your wrong that no one wants me Ive been talking to a very nice man as of late who completely adores me.

Despite my weight matter of fact he only dates overweight women and if things don't work out there I have a few others lined up I'm far from a man hater baby lol.

Dam sorry WRONG ANSWER please try again maybe you could win our consolation prize a life time of hand lotion god knows you'll need it!

Look you sad little meat sack no one wants you because your a miserable excuse for a human being. **** even the other bitter men on here think you need to grow up.

You whine worse then a rusty old door hinge in the rain weight/looks doesn't condemn any one person to a life of loneliness their actions/attitude do.

The sooner you can grow up and realize that the better off you will be until then best of luck with that hot gym girl hows that going? You got any other words of wisdom there?

If so BRING IT long as your a jerk and disrespectful to all the women here I'll be right here to shove it right back in your sweaty lil pork chop lovin shallow face :lmao:

I hope it works out well with this new man but I have my reservations that men will want to date overweight women I really think you should just try and lose some weight. That is my honest opinion of what I think is best for you.

Just that you felt the need to attack me shows that you are not happy.

Funny how the poster said I am 'only 25' I feel like I am very old. I remember when I tured 23 and it feels like a lifetime ago. The people at work call me young... I don't understand why, maybe I look young. I thought I looked old. Maybe they're just being nice. I think they're just being nice. You're being nice too. Thank your for being nice.

April 28, 2009

I hope it works out well with this new man but I have my reservations that men will want to date overweight women I really think you should just try and lose some weight. That is my honest opinion of what I think is best for you.

Just that you felt the need to attack me shows that you are not happy.

Funny how the poster said I am 'only 25' I feel like I am very old. I remember when I tured 23 and it feels like a lifetime ago. The people at work call me young... I don't understand why, maybe I look young. I thought I looked old. Maybe they're just being nice. I think they're just being nice. You're being nice too. Thank your for being nice.

I'm 26. You are young.

April 28, 2009

I hope it works out well with this new man but I have my reservations that men will want to date overweight women I really think you should just try and lose some weight. That is my honest opinion of what I think is best for you.

Just that you felt the need to attack me shows that you are not happy.

Funny how the poster said I am 'only 25' I feel like I am very old. I remember when I tured 23 and it feels like a lifetime ago. The people at work call me young... I don't understand why, maybe I look young. I thought I looked old. Maybe they're just being nice. I think they're just being nice. You're being nice too. Thank your for being nice.

You don't even see the error of your own ways or how your attitude affects how people see you do you?

I didn't attack you to start off with basically I said that neg rude people don't understand why others don't like them maybe the fact you took that so personalty means you need to work on yourself a little.

I am a happy person I don't want to lose any great amount of weight because I like myself the way I am I know its hard for you to fathom such a concept cause in your world every thing is solely based on looks alone.

I understand you have to like/love yourself just as you are before any one else can ever love you no matter what you look like.

You need to stop pointing the finger at everything/every one else for your sadness/bitterness and start looking at your attitude.

Cause some how I doubt its just rotten on a web site and rosy in real life if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck..

lol @ men not wanting to date overweight women true some don't but allot do so many in fact there are hole dating sites just for bbws and bhm.

Theres allot of attractive girls out there who also don't mind dating an overweight maybe not super hot guy IF HES A NICE GUY!!

Sh*t Ive seen lots of nerdy overweight computer type guys with HOT gfs in my days so it is possible its just in what else you have to bring to the table personality wise to ballance things out and how you put yourself out there in the 1st place..

But not if he acts like a d*ck most of the time ugly is as ugly dose in the end now you can take that any way you like but its not meant as a personal attack...

April 28, 2009

You are only 25, with some research, effort, practice and a few rejections under your belt, you could be in a much better place before you know it. What's the alternative?

I agree with collector... 25 isn't too old to have not had a GF.. So your a late starter.. big deal.. you sound like you have invested yourself in your career and sometimes that can take over a social life.

You do have a very dim view of other people and women in general and while that may seem okay to you it has a drastic effect on your ability to have relationships with people and essentially the opposite sex.

You need to work on seeing the good in people instead of trying to find the bad in people.

How you do that without therapy.. I couldn't tell you, but putting yourself out there is a good start.. start asking women out for coffee or lunch, nothing can take place of good ole experience.

April 28, 2009

Men are more visual creatures that women and we do not like women that are fat that is a fact of life that you need to learn to deal with. Just like men have to live with that women only want us for our money and stability in our jobs. I accepted that and went and got a better job now I get more respect from women but they won't date me because I am an ugly person.

Hey BP. Just curious how you reconcile the logical fallacy in your post here, which I have helpfully highlighted in bold.

I await your personal attack. Thanks.

April 28, 2009

It's over-rated

April 28, 2009

Oh dear

People want to date happy, positive people. It sounds like you aren't a happy person in general so that must be reflecting to girls who would otherwise be interested. A lot of people judge a potential partner on how they talk about or treat others.

April 28, 2009

Never had any relations with a female or a committed relationship? One thing I can advise is self-confidence. I've said it before a number of times but don't talk to females like they are the prized possession, they're used to that. Talk to them like you're the prized possession, like they're a regular person - they aren't used to it. But you gotta make them feel a little bit good about themselves as well. Obviously this works during the initial talks. As you get closer and closer you start feeding them small compliments here and there to feed their ego "Omg this guy I'm digging thinks I'm beautifullllll!" You know, **** like that.

April 28, 2009

Bored.....Have you ever looked into the pick up artist techniques.

I've heard it works pretty well on certain types of girls. It's not going to work in a long term relationship, but I think you just need to get laid...and it's certainly useful for that.

April 28, 2009

Men are more visual creatures that women and we do not like women that are fat that is a fact of life that you need to learn to deal with.

I think there are quite a few men out there who do like overweight women. Obese women often have large breasts, and are reputed to be enthusiastic dispensers of fellatio due to the oral complex. Whether or not the bit about the bjs is true....well I'm no better placed than you are to know, but it doesn't seem impossible.

You might also have an impressive rack and an oral fixation, but these things tend to be viewed more favourably in women than in men. So although I don't want to make you feel any worse than you already do, on a balance of probabilities....

Fat women - 2, You - 0.

Just like men have to live with that women only want us for our money and stability in our jobs. I accepted that and went and got a better job now I get more respect from women but they won't date me because I am an ugly person.

In what sense do you regard yourself as an ugly person?

April 28, 2009

In what sense do you regard yourself as an ugly person?

Taramere - that's already been discussed ad nauseum in his other similar threads.

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