MeaganRaye Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 society still tells him he is entitled to a beautiful woman.
Lizzie60 Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Yabutt.. maybe he has tons of money and a nice car.. For some strange reasons.. money, power makes a man more attractive.. Ah.. I know.. it's his intelligence!
LucreziaBorgia Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 I think to some extent, everyone feels entitled to some extent to be with a desirable partner (either good looking, virile, rich, etc).
xpaperxcutx Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 so what exactly does he have that compensates for the potbelly and the balding head?
Isolde Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 While I don't agree with the OP's statement verbatim, I do think that women are somewhat more socially conditioned to go for men that are less attractive than they are and to love first, then become attracted.
Stockalone Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 society still tells him he is entitled to a beautiful woman. If anything, people have been telling me the opposite.
Sam Spade Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 No matter, how stupid, flaky, artificial, uncaring, and immature a beautiful woman is, society tells her she's entitled to a decent, high-earning man .
Isolde Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 I'll revise my post to say that such social conditioning of women was certainly true in the past but isn't nearly as prevalent anymore.
Mahatma Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Society tells him he is entitled, but he does not get it. King of Queens comes to mind.
MissConduct Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 I think some of you are failing to see the sarcasm in the opening post.
mr.dream merchant Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Society tells him he is entitled, but he does not get it. King of Queens comes to mind. If you're talking about the show then yeah he got it, but she happens to be a completely bossy and whiny bitch. Seems like a loss to me.
fishtaco Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Yabutt.. maybe he has tons of money and a nice car.. For some strange reasons.. money, power makes a man more attractive.. Ah.. I know.. it's his intelligence! LOL. From what I've read, it's all came from the instinct to help us breed a more successful next generation in order to ensure the continuation of our species. Of course we're not fighting wilderbeasts anymore, so that instinct has taken on different forms. Men have the instinct to seek out the most healthy mate to ensure healthy offsprings, and child bearing ability to ensure the quantity of offsprings. But when cave people were grunting to each other, although they had excellent auto insurance coverage, medical history wasn't easily available. The determining factor became how a woman looks. Something about symmetry means lack of disease, certain body shape is good for child birth... etc. Now it has morphed; not the same as what cavemen were looking for, but the preference of choosing women with a certain body shape stayed, and is now modified by the media, and rarity, even when a man isn't even thinking about having kids. Women have the instinct to seek out men that can protect and provide for their children, also to ensure their survival. Maybe back in the cave people days it was the biggest and strongest guy, or the best hunter. Now in our society physical prowess isn't necessary anymore. So it morphed into money and power, because those are the attributes that matter in our society, even when a woman isn't thinking of children. The instincts don't apply anymore in this world. But they are still there, affecting our decision making. Something like that.
shadowplay Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Men like that may feel entitled to beautiful women, and in their youth they may even turn down perfectly good girls who are less attractive than their ideal, but they reach a certain age where they're forced to settle.
IrishCarBomb Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 If I always listened to what society told me, I'd be a pretty dumb person.
MissConduct Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Women have the instinct to seek out men that can protect and provide for their children, also to ensure their survival. Maybe back in the cave people days it was the biggest and strongest guy, or the best hunter. Now in our society physical prowess isn't necessary anymore. So it morphed into money and power, because those are the attributes that matter in our society, even when a woman isn't thinking of children. Yeah but in this day in age women have also figure out that to be protected, well taken care of with a man who can provide for their offspring, it doesn't have to be in the form of some dumpy, bald ulgy dude. There are decent looking men who can be great providers in every sense of the word. Yet some men still would love to think that women should settle for inner qualities only while meen seek mostly outer. I don't think so. Sorry. Personally I don't care som much about great ambition or financials he has to be a good provider in other ways, in particular when it comes to companionship, values and intellectual stimualation. Sure he should have some sort of financial stability but super ambitious men do nothin for me, would I trade all that in for a guy who doesn't give me that spark when I look into his eyes but he is a "great provider", NO WAY.
Trialbyfire Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Men like that may feel entitled to beautiful women, and in their youth they may even turn down perfectly good girls who are less attractive than their ideal, but they reach a certain age where they're forced to settle. Yes, I believe the age is 30 something, when their DNA starts to deteriorate within low production, dog-paddling sperm. Imagine all the autistic babies they're going to father. Also, you can bet that men like this chased bad girls, who used and abused them, so now, they appreciate the good girl.
fishtaco Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Yeah but in this day in age women have also figure out that to be protected, well taken care of with a man who can provide for their offspring, it doesn't have to be in the form of some dumpy, bald ulgy dude. There are decent looking men who can be great providers in every sense of the word. Oh yeah, of course. I was just regurgitating what I read about attraction, from a scientific perspective. I'm not saying that's the law. Plus my personal experience, women are complicated creatures. Even if the biology says they must want men that are good provider, women will throw in all these other things in there anyway so it's never that simple. The only thing I believe is that money and power are attractive attributes. But they sit in different spots in different women's priority lists.
IrishCarBomb Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Also, you can bet that men like this chased bad girls, who used and abused them, so now, they appreciate the good girl. If they're lucky they appreciate the good girl. Too often I seem them as having the "all women are evil" mindset.
Trialbyfire Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 If they're lucky they appreciate the good girl. Too often I seem them as having the "all women are evil" mindset.Isn't this where all the "good girls" kind of chuckle and say to these guys, "Good Luck, I have many more options"?
IrishCarBomb Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Isn't this where all the "good girls" kind of chuckle and say to these guys, "Good Luck, I have many more options"? Exactly. Bitter Guy then becomes more convinced that women are shallow (when they really just see his transparent negativity towards women), and it becomes a downward spiral.
Rhythmic Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Want to know why they're men who think that way? Because they constantly hear how women only care about personality and how funny a guy is or how he has to be able to provide great conversation or even just lots of money while it is us guys who are pigs who only care about looks. Almost as if women are scared to look shallow to people. If a fat ugly guy thinks he has a great personality who really believes that is what women really care about of course he will believe he should be able to get a good looking girl. When some guy asks for advice about why he can't get women don't worry about looking shallow. Tell him to go hit the gym and buy nice fitting clothes instead of "just be yourself and a girl will like you for YOU!" Men adjust expectations on what they believe women want. Don't be scared of looking shallow. Start demanding men look good and the attitude will change for the most part.
Trialbyfire Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Exactly. Bitter Guy then becomes more convinced that women are shallow (when they really just see his transparent negativity towards women), and it becomes a downward spiral.Okay, that makes sense. Now here's where I need your shot call, because I'm a little confused. Does bitter guy go seeking women in other countries or do the good girls go looking elsewhere for easier men?
IrishCarBomb Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Does bitter guy go seeking women in other countries or do the good girls go looking elsewhere for easier men? OMG YOU IZ CRAZINESS!!!! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!! USA WOMANZ R TEH SATANZ!!! Not like bitter guy gets bitter to an American culture that marginalized and spurned him and has an improved outlook when his negativity can be suspended as he looks to foreign women. Not like this is compounded by the foreign culture being so distant that it can just be held like a delusional fantasy dream that will never hurt bitter guy's ego... No way!!! RABBLE RABBLE!!!!
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