Ruby Slippers Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 So, I have decided to start dating a bit, if someone interesting crosses my path, and the latest guy called me up today to chat and ask me out. He seemed very cool at first meeting, but on the phone, he mentioned regularly tuning in to Michael Savage's conservative radio show. I know nothing about this guy, but I wondered enough to look him up and read a bit about him. If this guy is anything like Rush Limbaugh or someone like that, I see this going nowhere. A lot of my political views are considered more liberal, but I don't align myself with any party, and I am told that some of my fiscally conservative views are more in line with libertarianism. But there are some things that would completely turn me off from dating someone even casually, such as racism. I'm wondering if this doesn't already indicate a lack of compatibility. Anyone know anything about this Savage guy?
Rogue52 Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 If you have a problem with Rush Limbaugh (sounds like you think he is racist), then you won't be able to stand Michael Savage. I wouldn't base your opinion on what the guy listens to on the radio though. You claim you kind of hang out on the middle of the road with things, so who knows? Ask him about it...
IrishCarBomb Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Anyone know anything about this Savage guy? To me, he's worse than Limbaugh. Savage is a complete right-wing nutjob that instead of making points, he just gets loud and invokes "God" or "patriotism" or "America" to make his loudness sound poetic. I've listened out of curiousity, but since he had essentially zero coherent points, I just gave up.
39388 Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 So, I have decided to start dating a bit, if someone interesting crosses my path, and the latest guy called me up today to chat and ask me out. He seemed very cool at first meeting, but on the phone, he mentioned regularly tuning in to Michael Savage's conservative radio show. I know nothing about this guy, but I wondered enough to look him up and read a bit about him. If this guy is anything like Rush Limbaugh or someone like that, I see this going nowhere. A lot of my political views are considered more liberal, but I don't align myself with any party, and I am told that some of my fiscally conservative views are more in line with libertarianism. But there are some things that would completely turn me off from dating someone even casually, such as racism. I'm wondering if this doesn't already indicate a lack of compatibility. Anyone know anything about this Savage guy? Savage is awful and disgusting. I'm left of center too. I'd say he is WORSE than Limbaugh. You can google him to find out more. Take a look at the wikipedia article. He has said a lot of controversial stuff. However, it is not necessarily true that he agrees with all of his views just because he listens to him. It might not be good if he even agrees half the time.
Author Ruby Slippers Posted April 26, 2009 Author Posted April 26, 2009 Wow, sounds bad. I'm wondering if I should talk to him about it and then decide what to do or just outright cancel. I liked everything else he had to say. He's a little older and seems to have more traditional values, but the good ones: hard work, integrity, discipline. I like that, and I feel that a lot of people just don't get that today. I'm in the midst of my single year, so dating is supposed to be easy and fun right now. Not sure I want to get into a bunch of heavy discussion. Of course, I am pretty serious and philosophical a lot of the time. Hrm.
kdark Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Wow, sounds bad. I'm wondering if I should talk to him about it and then decide what to do or just outright cancel. I liked everything else he had to say. He's a little older and seems to have more traditional values, but the good ones: hard work, integrity, discipline. I like that, and I feel that a lot of people just don't get that today. I'm in the midst of my single year, so dating is supposed to be easy and fun right now. Not sure I want to get into a bunch of heavy discussion. Of course, I am pretty serious and philosophical a lot of the time. Hrm. I wouldn't date a girl who listened to michael savage. It wouldn't be a date, just one huge argument. And what's wrong with heavy discussions? They are so much more interesting, and it's fun because it usually gets everyone in a firey, passionate mood.
Author Ruby Slippers Posted April 26, 2009 Author Posted April 26, 2009 And what's wrong with heavy discussions? They are so much more interesting, and it's fun because it usually gets everyone in a firey, passionate mood. Oh, nothing. I LOOOOVE a healthy debate, believe me. I have been trying to lighten up, though. I know how to have a good time, but I am generally quite serious and intense. I have only ever had relationships (never just light dating), so I was hoping for something easy and no-stress. Intense political debate is not my idea of light, summer fun. I guess I'll feel it out a little more on the date, which is dinner Tuesday. He seems very easygoing, so hopefully we won't end up throwing food or strangling each other.
IrishCarBomb Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 He's a little older and seems to have more traditional values, but the good ones: hard work, integrity, discipline. I like that, and I feel that a lot of people just don't get that today. Oh, you can be a sitcom couple. You can be the wacky left-wing artistic girl that never understands her conservative traditional accountant fiance! You can have crazy adventures filled with humor and irony, but when they end everybody has learned a valuable lesson. In the end you'll accept the differences, and make your relationship stronger. But next week you'll be at it again! Uh-oh!! It all must be the same in reality. Why would TV lie to us?
Isolde Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 While I would date a somewhat conservative guy, I do agree that this is a valid reason for concern. As you said, feel him out some more.
Author Ruby Slippers Posted April 26, 2009 Author Posted April 26, 2009 Oh, you can be a sitcom couple. You can be the wacky left-wing artistic girl that never understands her conservative traditional accountant fiance! You can have crazy adventures filled with humor and irony, but when they end everybody has learned a valuable lesson. In the end you'll accept the differences, and make your relationship stronger. But next week you'll be at it again! Uh-oh!! It all must be the same in reality. Why would TV lie to us? He's also blue collar (OMG, his arms and hands), so that's a whole 'nother level of difference. I run my own biz in a brainy sector and have only ever dated white collar guys. Maybe I am just totally off base with this guy, but the conversation was fun and so effortless, and actually quite intellectually charged, when we met the other day. I normally do not hit it off so easily right off the bat. Today on the phone, several times we both started wrapping the conversation up, but we kept finding more to talk about. No matter what our differing views and circumstances, there definitely seems to be some good chemistry. Could I have sex with a conservative?! Never tried it.
IrishCarBomb Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Maybe I am just totally off base with this guy, but the conversation was fun and so effortless, and actually quite intellectually charged, when we met the other day. I normally do not hit it off so easily right off the bat. Pssshhh.... just run with it and have fun. Don't get worked up about it, keep it light. If he's a right-wing nutjob, you'll pick up on it eventually. But if he's not, then it sounds like he's a decent guy that you have chemistry with. Hope it goes well.
BubblyPopcorn Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Michael Savage claims to be neither left or right, but if you listen to his talk show "Savage Nation", a lot of his views are more conservative vs. liberal. I personally wouldn't discount someone just because they listened to him, I've listened to him and I agree with some of his viewpoints but I don't agree with all of them. I'd say it boils down to which views/beliefs are of most important to you and your date, if there are certain ones that completely go against your own and cannot be compromised on and/or vice versa.
Jake Barnes Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 To me, he's worse than Limbaugh. Savage is a complete right-wing nutjob that instead of making points, he just gets loud and invokes "God" or "patriotism" or "America" to make his loudness sound poetic. I've listened out of curiousity, but since he had essentially zero coherent points, I just gave up. Michael Savage is actually agreat story-teller. When he talks about his family and childhood he goes into a zone and becomes totally engaging Hes also somwhat bi-polar and will flip his positions in the middle of a conversation. Theres something organic and intereting to me about that
BobSacamento Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Does he watch Glen Beck too? What kind of standards does this dude have?
Chicago_Guy Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 This could be a problem if he wants to talk about politics. However, if neither you nor he want to discuss politics, I don't see why this would be a deal-breaker. As I understand it, Savage is kind of like the right's version of Keith Olbermann, the extreme left-wing MSNBC commentator.
FleshNBones Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 I think Michael Savage is the conservative equivalent of Jon Stewart.
Jake Barnes Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 I think Michael Savage is the conservative equivalent of Jon Stewart.No, hes much more like the conservative equivalent of Lewis Black I'd love to see them debate against each other
FleshNBones Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Michael Savage was the radio host in the movie Joe Dirt. I like his style.
FleshNBones Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 No, hes much more like the conservative equivalent of Lewis Black I'd love to see them debate against each otherI don't think Michael uses sarcasm, profanity, or anger.
Jake Barnes Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 I don't think Michael uses sarcasm, profanity, or anger. He doesn't use profanity because hes on the radio, but his show is totally driven by sarcasm and anger
MissConduct Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 I don't think Michael uses sarcasm, profanity, or anger. He definitely uses sarcasm profanity and anger. He is very extreme in his conservative views but a lot of times he makes sense. I really wouldn't compare him to John Stewart at all, Stewart is a puppy in comparison. He is a great debater, even though sometimes he goes a bit overboard at least he presents solid arguments even though you may not agree with him.
Isolde Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 I looked him up out of curiosity. While he sounds interesting, it seems like he's made a lot of ugly comments, which IMO is not acceptable no matter what your political stance. On the other hand, Ruby, this guy you met sounds kinda cool ... when you connect with someone who comes from a totally different background from you, on an intellectual level, that's rare and exciting. I look forward to hearing how your next date goes!
Jake Barnes Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Heres a great example of Savage utilizing sarcasm and anger (this will be offensive to some) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fjy9nROywlI&feature=related
MissConduct Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Heres a great example of Savage utilizing sarcasm and anger (this will be offensive to some) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fjy9nROywlI&feature=related Paaaahahah yeah no wonder he is a believer that gays are "made" and that you can grow out of it, in the 70's he was good friends with and used to do LSD with Allen Ginsberg, who was as an out homosexual, and they posed naked in a magazine spread. I guess after he cut the drugs out of his system he was able to "straighten" his life out in many respects and that's why now at 66 he is so darn angry. Whatev he's a hypocrite! Look the guy makes some good arguments but just because he can argue it does not make him the voice of reason. As most ultra conservatives, he is as tormented as they come. He is a "reformed one thing or another" and his extreme conservative views are fascist in nature. There is nothing worse than seeing a reformed anything take the complete extreme opposite when he "has seen the light" That is the true definition of hypocrisy.
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