Bejita463 Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Interesting. I believe exactly the opposite: Respect is earned, not lost. Trust is lost, not given. I didn't say trust is lost and not given. I said trust was earned. I do mean that respect is lost though. You've done nothing really to lose my respect, despite the fact I disagree with your views. In light of that, why would I view you with a form of disrespect? That is the logical alternative, yes? I suppose you could argue neutrality, but even then I would tend to believe any attitude would naturally lean towards one of the other. You can respect someone more than others, but I think a more appropriate way of handling people is to start with a bit of benefit-of-doubt. Just explaining what I meant there, in case it was unclear. Why respect somebody or something for no reason? You make no sense. Why disrespect somebody or something for no reason? That doesn't make sense to me in much the same way. Ok, so your argument is that I may have had a "bad" TKD instructor that clouded my judgement. What if I mentioned that I have done years of multiple styles of TKD? SPTKD, MLTKD, PITKD etc... surely not all those instructors can be bad. In reality - it's the style. Probably nothing would satisfy you as your ideas are set in stone. Perhaps mine aren't the only ideas set in stone. You seem to be determining good and bad based on competitiveness rather than the ability to defend yourself gained through the art. Suffice to say, I know what I know from a position of experience, and my opinions are backed up by facts. Every real martial arts contest in the world shows the ineffectiveness of the "look at me" styles: TKD, Kung Fu, Karate, Ninjitsu, Judo, Aikido, Eskrima, Capoeira etc.. if you want to succeed - it's a variant of Muay Thai for standup, or BJJ for on the ground. There is a marked difference between fighting and professional fighting. Defending one's self and competing don't have the same end goal, and no amount of sneering at, or insulting an art makes it ineffective at readying a person to defending themselves. You might not be the champion of the UFC with TKD or Aikido, but are you honestly saying you cannot defend yourself with them? You can get hurt in any fight, using any martial art. What is there to sneer at? I do concede that the worst teachers I had were the ones who taught purely traditional styles with no adaptation to make up for the art's inherent weaknesses, but I don't really know what kind of instructors you had. That's wishful thinking. Some styles truly are much better than others at practical application. Accept it, or be embarassed if you ever have to use it. A trained martial artist against an untrained person is going to have an advantage regardless of the art they've chosen. I say untrained, because trained people don't typically go around looking for brawls in my experience. You are discussing degree, and greatly exaggerating the levels of effectiveness.
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