Bluebird In My Heart Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 No worries. So long as we get to see the video. Back on topic: what has his tone been when he teased you? I guess that's my question. Was it mocking in a nasty way? Or was is playful? If it was playful, I don't see any reason in the world not to do it.
Els Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Men are pound for pound stronger than women. Let's turn this around. IF a woman keeps teasing a man about his strength, should he kick the crap out of her, just to prove his point? No, but he could certainly play-wrestle her and pin her down to prove his point.
Trialbyfire Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 No, but he could certainly play-wrestle her and pin her down to prove his point.IF this were such a small thing, why is the OP concerned about the thought of doing so? You don't see men come onto LS and ask if it's okay if they pin down their g/fs while wrestling...
Author GweStar Posted April 22, 2009 Author Posted April 22, 2009 No worries. So long as we get to see the video. Back on topic: what has his tone been when he teased you? I guess that's my question. Was it mocking in a nasty way? Or was is playful? If it was playful, I don't see any reason in the world not to do it. Thanx! He hasn't been nasty at all - just normal teasing...
Els Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 IF this were such a small thing, why is the OP concerned about the thought of doing so? You don't see men come onto LS and ask if it's okay if they pin down their g/fs while wrestling... Weeelll... there ARE men asking about equally 'small' things such as whether or not it's okay to kiss a girl on a first date... But that doesn't mean we should automatically question his intent and whether or not he really was thinking of only a simple kiss just because it seems to be too small a thing to ask about, does it?
mr.dream merchant Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 I'm totally gettin at my GF's chin tonight, she's been teasing the **** outta me. Hittin her with that 3 piece, holla!
Trialbyfire Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Weeelll... there ARE men asking about equally 'small' things such as whether or not it's okay to kiss a girl on a first date... But that doesn't mean we should automatically question his intent and whether or not he really was thinking of only a simple kiss just because it seems to be too small a thing to ask about, does it? Elswyth, what's your point, exactly? I've made my point. If it's validation the OP wants, she should ask for it. Whether or not she's going to receive it, is a whole 'nother ballgame. Here, allow me! GweStar, go for it. You go girl and throw your man onto his back. Teasing should always be responded in, in a physical fashion! Prove yourself...as it should be!!
mr.dream merchant Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Can I roll my GF down a hill in a garbage can to prove my point? I think it'd be a valid way to.
Els Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 My point is that we shouldn't assume it's anything more than playful teasing based on the information that the OP has given us. We shouldn't assume that she's planning to kick the crap out of him to procure validation from him when she's empathically insisted that this is not the case.
Trialbyfire Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Can I roll my GF down a hill in a garbage can to prove my point? I think it'd be a valid way to. Yes, you go!! She will love you more for it!
mr.dream merchant Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Yes, you go!! She will love you more for it! I need some validation, MLB Baseball Bat to the knees anyone?! :lmao:
boldjack Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Gwestar, You have said that it will be a demonstration, but your attitude is one of competition. I don't know who your sensei is but I would bet he/she would disapprove. Your arrogant, prideful manner will only lead to unpleasantness. If you throw him and he struggles to escape, will not his pride be hurt? If you hold him down ,will this prove you are superior? How many men would be ok, being humiliated by their GF? Humiliation is far more painful than any physical punishment . This is not about his teasing, it is about your lack of respect for your training and the moral precepts that accompany that training. You evidently have very little respect for your BF to even contemplate this.
Trialbyfire Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 I need some validation, MLB Baseball Bat to the knees anyone?! :lmao:An MLB baseball bat? She must really have been teasing you A LOT. Go for it!!
Els Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Gwestar, You have said that it will be a demonstration, but your attitude is one of competition. I don't know who your sensei is but I would bet he/she would disapprove. Your arrogant, prideful manner will only lead to unpleasantness. If you throw him and he struggles to escape, will not his pride be hurt? If you hold him down ,will this prove you are superior? How many men would be ok, being humiliated by their GF? Humiliation is far more painful than any physical punishment . This is not about his teasing, it is about your lack of respect for your training and the moral precepts that accompany that training. You evidently have very little respect for your BF to even contemplate this. If a man considers it humiliating to engage in friendly combat with a woman and lose, he should not invite it in the first place. Honestly, TBF, I thought more of you (I usually ignore mr dream merchant). Engaging in irrelevant, immature sarcastic comments while completely disregarding any of the OP's clarifications?
boldjack Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Elswyth, The OP is out to prove something and the only way is by defeating an untrained person. I do not know of any reputable martial arts program that would approve of this. That her BF is teasing her and "inviting" her, is irrelevant, if her BF had any training it would be different, but he hasn't, so she should show maturity and not participate.
Els Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Elswyth, The OP is out to prove something and the only way is by defeating an untrained person. I do not know of any reputable martial arts program that would approve of this. That her BF is teasing her and "inviting" her, is irrelevant, if her BF had any training it would be different, but he hasn't, so she should show maturity and not participate. What should she do then the next time he teases her?
Els Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 But then he'd be disappointed if he really were hoping for some hot woman-on-man action!
Trialbyfire Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 What should she do then the next time he teases her?How difficult is it to shut down an SO from teasing? She has three choices: Honey, how could I ever take down someone as big and strong as you? Purr..purrr...purrr..Look, I've had enough of your teasing. I enjoy akido. Now back off because you're pissing me off.Rolls her eyes and ignores.
boldjack Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Els, My woman NEVER has to throw me to get on top.
Els Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Els, My woman NEVER has to throw me to get on top. Maybe he likes to do the woman>man thing all the way? So I see you've agreed that it's all 'friendly and teasing' now, TBF? Good then, how about option 4: Play-wrestle him in a friendly manner?
Enema Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Sounds like we have 4 opinions in this thread: 1) Don't beat him up 2) You can't beat him up 3) Beat him up 4) Beat him up and rape him
TaraMaiden Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Elswyth, The OP is out to prove something and the only way is by defeating an untrained person. I do not know of any reputable martial arts program that would approve of this. That her BF is teasing her and "inviting" her, is irrelevant, if her BF had any training it would be different, but he hasn't, so she should show maturity and not participate. My cousin Cecilia practises the art of Kendo Kata, the art of the sword. She was invited to lunch by my mother, and there were some british friends also attending. Cecilia arrived straight from her practice, with her katana (sword) in its box. My mother's English friends enquired as to the contents. When Cecilia explained it was a sword, they naturally asked her to elaborate, and she explained her studies. Immediately, with great delight, they said "Wow, that's amazing! Oh, show us a few moves!" Cecilia politely but firmly declined. She said - "it's not a spectacle, it's a discipline." There were some reproaches, but cecilia merely stayed completely silent. They could not say anything after that..... A silent and dignified response would be appropriate. I have to say, if he were my boyfriend, I would actually wonder why he is being so juvenile and disrespectful about something I hold of value. But it depends on circumstances and temperament I guess. And I mean no disrespect at all to the Poster, but it also depends how much she respects herself, and her Art.
Bejita463 Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 As I said - I'll just show him that I can throw him down and keep him there. It's not a competition and I won't hurt him. If he thinks it's hot or fun - that would be great, wouldn't it? And if he can't take it, even though he asked for it, I suppose he is not the right guy for me. Fair enough. I was getting more of a competitive vibe than you seem to have intended. I never thought you wanted to hurt him, but that is where it seemed like it was going to go. Demonstration is altogether different than competition. Change things significantly. A demonstration could be fun. I've demonstrated things for partners before. Sometimes you can even convince them to let you show them a few things. That's always a fun and rewarding experience. Respect is earned, not given. Respect is lost, not earned. Trust is earned, not given. After experiencing years of both styles I mentioned I am more than qualified to comment on their effectiveness and uses. Commenting is different than full blown arrogance. The effectiveness of a martial art as you perceive it depends largely on the instructor of that art. I've had instructors in several different arts that were excellent, and some in the same arts that were terrible. I could, based on my experiences, say that each art is horrible based on the experience with the bad instructors. The instructors lost my respect when warranted, not the arts themselves. Nowhere in my post did I say that I feel I have to prove myself by getting into fights, nor did I make disparaging remarks about others. I will admit that when I see someone claiming that "my art is better because it is mine" which is basically how your post came off to me, I tend to assume a certain personality type is attached to the person who said it. However, sneering at an art is a disparaging remark. Even if your chosen art truly is superior in every possible way, which is unlikely, that is still an ignorant attitude. Shame on you for your ad-hom attacks. If you can't attack the post accuracy, attack the poster - is that it? Nice Straw Man there.
Enema Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Respect is lost, not earned. Trust is lost, not earned. Interesting. I believe exactly the opposite: Respect is earned, not lost. Trust is lost, not given. Why respect somebody or something for no reason? You make no sense. Commenting is different than full blown arrogance. The effectiveness of a martial art as you perceive it depends largely on the instructor of that art. I've had instructors in several different arts that were excellent, and some in the same arts that were terrible. I could, based on my experiences, say that each art is horrible based on the experience with the bad instructors. The instructors lost my respect when warranted, not the arts themselves. Ok, so your argument is that I may have had a "bad" TKD instructor that clouded my judgement. What if I mentioned that I have done years of multiple styles of TKD? SPTKD, MLTKD, PITKD etc... surely not all those instructors can be bad. In reality - it's the style. Probably nothing would satisfy you as your ideas are set in stone. Suffice to say, I know what I know from a position of experience, and my opinions are backed up by facts. Every real martial arts contest in the world shows the ineffectiveness of the "look at me" styles: TKD, Kung Fu, Karate, Ninjitsu, Judo, Aikido, Eskrima, Capoeira etc.. if you want to succeed - it's a variant of Muay Thai for standup, or BJJ for on the ground. I will admit that when I see someone claiming that "my art is better because it is mine" which is basically how your post came off to me, I tend to assume a certain personality type is attached to the person who said it. However, sneering at an art is a disparaging remark. Even if your chosen art truly is superior in every possible way, which is unlikely, that is still an ignorant attitude. That's wishful thinking. Some styles truly are much better than others at practical application. Accept it, or be embarassed if you ever have to use it.
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