Such a beautiful dream!

[whichwayisup]

Don't be in such a hurry to be an adult because being an ADULT sucks. I wish I was 15 again, with Mommy and Daddy standing by, paying the mortgage, paying the insurance, car, gas, bills, putting food on the table, saving money for college and retirement and funerals...oh my...

 

I mirror this!! Great advice. Don't be in such a rush to grow up! Love your life the way it is and enjoy the innocence, freedom and fun you have now. Trust me (us), sometimes I want to go back being a young one with no responsibility, just carefree, happy go lucky..

[RomanticBride]

I know sex isn't legal at 16. This is why we're going to have a long engagement, without sex, until I am 18. And My fiance is 25. Ooh, scary. No, really it isn't. My parents know every bit as much about him as I do, and they like him. (My dad is giving him stupid nicknames, so he likes E.B., or as he calls him, "Cue Ball") They like him so much they're paying for his flight over here. Really our relationship is wonderful. It's so different from what most teens have (Make out, then dump after a week of boredom) it's the best love I've ever known. I guess with the age difference, it's just another tough stereotype to debunk. Love isn't about race. Love isn't about gender (for some people. Me, I like men) And love isn't about age either. Yes, there are horror stories out there about situations like this. But look at them closely and you will see, this is different.

Preditor- "Don't tell your parents about any of this"

EB- talks with my mother daily on msn

Preditor- "I need 1500 dollars to get over here to see you"

EB- I really do not want you to pay for this flight. I can pay for it myself comfortably, really." (We had to really coax him to let us take care of things)

 

See?

[Lucky_One]

I know sex isn't legal at 16. This is why we're going to have a long engagement, without sex, until I am 18. And My fiance is 25. Ooh, scary. No, really it isn't. My parents know every bit as much about him as I do, and they like him. (My dad is giving him stupid nicknames, so he likes E.B., or as he calls him, "Cue Ball") They like him so much they're paying for his flight over here. Really our relationship is wonderful. It's so different from what most teens have (Make out, then dump after a week of boredom) it's the best love I've ever known. I guess with the age difference, it's just another tough stereotype to debunk. Love isn't about race. Love isn't about gender (for some people. Me, I like men) And love isn't about age either. Yes, there are horror stories out there about situations like this. But look at them closely and you will see, this is different.

Preditor- "Don't tell your parents about any of this"

EB- talks with my mother daily on msn

Preditor- "I need 1500 dollars to get over here to see you"

EB- I really do not want you to pay for this flight. I can pay for it myself comfortably, really." (We had to really coax him to let us take care of things)

 

See?

 

I see. I see that you either are fudging on the truth here, or you are fudging on the truth on your blog that you want everyone on LS to read and comment on.

 

A 25 year old, financially comfortable, healthy adult MAN does not let the parents of his 15 year old pubescent girlfriend pay for his travel plans to come meet her for the first time.

 

But a 25 year old, impoverished, dingleberry who has no job and is trying to get one in the next two weeks or he will lose his government handout checks WOULD let those parents pay for a plane ticket.

 

You can't play both sides of the truth and broadcast its existence on the web.

 

So, using logic, it would seem that the first heartfelt posts on your blog (dated before you posted this thread on LS) would be the truth, and your protestations of financial solvency come from some weird desire to gain adult acceptance on an infidelity board, in order for your mind to gain some sort of legitimacy about this more-than-odd relationship.

 

Why doesn't the Eternal Beloved ever comment on your blog, btw?

[bentnotbroken]

Sounds like your parents should be investigated and your fiance should be de-balled.

[Reggie]

No way is this real.

[RomanticBride]

No way is this real.

 

It is. My situation is very unusual, but it's real. If you don't want to believe me it's your choice, but I came here for advice and support like everybody else here, and I don't like it when people cast me off, y'know?

 

And yes, you were right Lucky_One: I am here because I want to be supported and uplifted, just like everybody else here.

 

And for God's sake, did you even read that part where I said he didn't want us to pay for the flight? It took us two months to convince him not to pay for it! And don't call him an "impoverished dingleberry". He's a respectable man, and my fiance, and he deserves to be treated as such.

[Lucky_One]

It is. My situation is very unusual, but it's real. If you don't want to believe me it's your choice, but I came here for advice and support like everybody else here, and I don't like it when people cast me off, y'know?

 

And yes, you were right Lucky_One: I am here because I want to be supported and uplifted, just like everybody else here.

 

And for God's sake, did you even read that part where I said he didn't want us to pay for the flight? It took us two months to convince him not to pay for it! And don't call him an "impoverished dingleberry". He's a respectable man, and my fiance, and he deserves to be treated as such.

 

You are the one who called him impoverished and jobless - not me. I called him a dingleberry, because I don't know a man who could afford a plane ticket to see his underage GF for the first time but would allow for her parents to fund his courting.

[whichwayisup]

All I can say is, love at 15 is COMPLETELY different at age 25. This isn't about feelings, this is about maturity, life experiences and where you each are in life.

It's two different playing fields and this guy has 100x more experience than you in everyway possible.

[RecordProducer]

Yes and no. My parents FULLY support our relationship; they're even paying for his flight from England to the US for my 16th birthday. And by the way, We love each other more deeply and more passionately than I ever thought a teenager was capable of loving. Yes, I know it sounds hard to fathom that loving, caring parents would let their precious baby girl (Oh, the sarcasm! So thick you'd need an axe to cut it) meet up with an online BF from England. Well there's a price to pay: they will actually go through my MSN logs (The wretched old harpies) And observe every word we say. No matter. He's my fiance and my true love.

I actually read this whole thread, not so much because you are interesting, but the other posters' comments are. When I say that you're not interesting, I say in a good way: it means you don't have any weird drama going on in your life, you're justa sweet little teen girl.

 

I think you're very intelligent and eloquent, but I don't believe you about your EB. I don't know if he exists, but no parent would approve of him visiting their 16-year old daughter. No parent would believe that a 25-year old wouldn't try to have sex with her. Sorry, we parents don't trust men on their word - if he were trustworthy and normal, he wouldn't hook up with a child. Furhtermore, no sane 25-year old would travel thousands of miles to meet with a child with whom he can't have sex. You're making some of this up, there's no doubt about that. And that's OK. It's normal to live in a fantasy world at that age, but lying is still lying.

 

What you know about love, life and the world we live in is NOT what reality is, RB. You're forgetting that we all were 16 once and we were where you are right now. You haven't been where we are. Learning life is not learning that life sucks - it's learning how to behave in order to get what you want out of it (just like you know that you have to study in order to get a good grade). It's recognizing the signs and discerning bullkrap from reality. It's seeing through people's intentions and matching interests with them, when it suits you.

 

I too thought I knew everything when I was 16. Did I know that my first husband would want to use me as a mother replacement for his child and then dump me with two twin-babies? Did I know that my second husband would be passive-aggressive and enjoy hurting me mnetally/emotionally? Trust me, they were wonderful in the dating phases, and even at age 30, I bought the lies I was served. You know nothing about life until you're rejected, dumped, and humiliated a thousand times - and learn to get up, shake the mud off, and move on with a smile.

 

At your age, the only thing that matters is for you to have a peaceful childhood. If you're abused (sexually, physically, mentally, etc.) you should seek help from a counselor. By the way, if ANY adult EVER touched your privates - that's sexual abuse. I wasn't aware of this when I was your age, so I must stress it. Of course, this doesn't refer to a person that you're in love with.

 

You try to paint your parents as very understanding people, which makes me think that they are not. Frankly, I don't feel like posting in this thread, but I feel obligated to help a child. And I don't know if you're just a dreamy kid or you have severe problems in your life. Teenagers usually don't seek help even when they know that everything is wrong in their lives. But, please don't be just another teenager, go to a therapist (psychologist) and tell them EVERYTHING about your life. And I mean everything.

 

Yes sorry, what should I know. I am nearly 3 times your age and have experienced both good and bad in long term relationships (i.e. those that have gone beyond one term at school). Guess I should really listen to some kid to tell me what life is really like. Oh, hang on, maybe not. Maybe I should listen to the rest of the adults posting here.

Anne, when you talk like that to a child, you sound no more mature than her. She is 15, but what's your excuse?

[anne1707]

Anne, when you talk like that to a child, you sound no more mature than her. She is 15, but what's your excuse?

 

RP - call it frustration with a potential troll. If this is a genuine poster then I am out of order but there is so much that is not right with this whole thread that I just find it all very hard to believe.

[RecordProducer]

RP - call it frustration with a potential troll. If this is a genuine poster then I am out of order but there is so much that is not right with this whole thread that I just find it all very hard to believe.

You're cute. I love when I can say what I have to say without people taking it pesonally or being offended. Whatever the case with the OP, she is posting here and we give the best feedback we consider suitable.

[herenow]

OK, so let's say this is a real 15 year old here for advice. As a parent, my advice is:

 

Honey, this "man" is too old for you. You are 15 and you should be spending your time at school, doing your homework and having fun doing things that 15 year olds do. You will never be 15 again, so enjoy it now or you may regret it later. If you still feel the way you do after you graduate high school and are old enough to take care of yourself, I wish you and EB much happiness together. If he really loves you he will understand that you are too young right now (legally and morally) and he will wait for you.

[OpenBook]

He showed me that even if I AM only 15, he has had the experience and maturity that I lack. And it is he who will teach me. And I wouldn't have anyone else teach me, not for the world

 

RB, these words totally give me the creepy-crawlies on your behalf. Your "beautiful dream" will become a nightmare of epic proportions for you, the moment you stop wanting him to become your teacher, and he refuses to give up that delicious position of power over you. This will happen at some point in the future after you have blossomed into a woman, and wish to establish yourself in the world as a sentient being. He will not allow it.

 

When we are very young we do not yet understand the long-term implications of the decisions we are making NOW. (This applies to everyone.) And it's why I think you would be very wise (beyond your years) to consider the advice that us older and more "weathered" folks are trying to help you with.

[wuggle]

So RB, why do you describe this other women as a crack whore ? that seems rather nasty of you, wouldn't you agree ?

[RomanticBride]

Firstly- I'm not a fricking troll.

Secondly- My parents were flipped out about my darling when they first heard about him but I let them see all our msns and they email him every day so they're both cool with it. I know it might be hard for you to fathom that this is really happening to me. I can understand, I really can. It's a very uncommon situation, that I'm in. But being treated like a troll is beginning to tick me off, because I'm a real woman, a real person like you.

Thirdly- I accept your apology Anne. But please try to be careful who you step on. Really I'm just a fragile teen girl who's fallen in love and wants a little support, just like everyone else on LoveShack. To everyone who doesn't think I'm "real": Is that really too much to ask? What if someone read one of your posts, when you were really in trouble and hurting, and disregarded it as a lie?

Fourthly- RP, what was that about rape again? At this point we have well decided there will be NO sex in any form until I'm 18. And by "teacher" I don't mean "sadist". He's a very gentle person- in ALL things, if you see what I mean. I wouldn't allow him to lock me in a closet and rape me. Not the he would of course. By "Him being my teacher" I meant I'll learn about adult life from him. How to face up to new adult problems and situations that I don't know exist yet. Like Tax Day. And drinking. And probably plenty of other things. What I was saying is, He'll be there, with me, for me, through everything I go through as a "new adult".

[Els]

Well, I don't know about you guys, but I seriously doubt a troll would take the time and effort to compose a whole blog full of similarly-worded prose just to convince everyone here.

 

RomanticBride, your blog reminded me of how the early teen years were for me and made me laugh. Honey, you're so full of idealism and enthusiasm and melodrama (I don't say that in a bad way, almost everyone your age is, I know I certainly was myself)... and I hope this goes well for you, I really do.

 

Just enjoy your crush with that guy, but be careful and be sure not to make any life-changing decisions based on it.

[whichwayisup]

Secondly- My parents were flipped out about my darling when they first heard about him but I let them see all our msns and they email him every day so they're both cool with it.

 

But they still haven't "met" him face to face yet, right? See, words are only one thing, and until your folks actually physically MEET him, their fears are very valid. As should yours. I know mine are, even if you've spoken to him 100x on the phone.

 

Really I'm just a fragile teen girl who's fallen in love

 

All the more reason to not let your guard down completely for a man who is 25 years old that you really don't know well.

 

By "Him being my teacher" I meant I'll learn about adult life from him. How to face up to new adult problems and situations that I don't know exist yet. Like Tax Day. And drinking. And probably plenty of other things. What I was saying is, He'll be there, with me, for me, through everything I go through as a "new adult".

 

Sorry, but there's no way you're going to learn everything from him. You're 15, your own learning experiences should be through your friends, family, school adventures, trips, and many crushes/boyfriends throughout your teens and in your 20's. To think he is "the one" forever is only going to hurt later.

[RomanticBride]

Well, I don't know about you guys, but I seriously doubt a troll would take the time and effort to compose a whole blog full of similarly-worded prose just to convince everyone here.

 

THANK you! FINALLY!

[Reggie]

Okay, a 15 year old girl meets a 25 year old guy on the internet and now her folks are flying a guy almost twice her age in to see her. She calls this guy, who she has never met personally, EB. And, her idea of a beautiful dream is to steal some less physically attractive woman's boyfriend or husband or whatever and feel glee as the pathetic, hurt woman desperately follows them in her minvan. How sensitive.

This whole thing is fictitous. It is funny, though.:bunny:

[ali0112]

I have to agree with Reggie, no matter how much she protests. No 15 year-old is that eloquent.

[Taramere]

Well, I don't know about you guys, but I seriously doubt a troll would take the time and effort to compose a whole blog full of similarly-worded prose just to convince everyone here.

 

Are you kidding, Elswyth? There are people out there who regard trolling as an artform, and devote vast amounts of time to it. Maybe even getting caught up in their own fantasy.

 

I read a board once where trolls were discussing their antics. One of them said he'd invented a sockpuppet, got into an argument with it - and ended up feeling really angry and emotional about the whole thing. It was pretty funny.

 

But this one is a little more creepy. My guess is that Romantic Bride is a man in his twenties who's become overly engrossed in fantasising about some 15 year old girl he's IMing with.

 

Edit. Took another look at the writing style. More like a guy in his fifties. Maybe one who's fantasising about being 25 again.

 

Further edit: Hahaha. Took another look, and this time read the "Rose Garden Musings". A hybrid of an embittered 55 year old divorced man and a drippy-hippy look-at-me-me-so-wierdy emo-teen.

 

Where's my gun?

[Els]

Well, it's possible, but that certainly wouldn't be your average troll. The average troll just creates a new account, posts some extremely controversial post, MAYBE follows up with one or two replies and then is never heard of again. Not all that many of them have the... ahem.. passion and enthusiasm to go all the way.

 

Isn't it more likely that she really is a melodramatic 15-year-old with a crush on someone who's older than her? (online crushes aren't THAT rare...)

 

As for no 15 year old being that eloquent, I'd have to disagree. Her writings remind me of mine when I was her age, except I daresay I was QUITE a bit more level-headed. >_>

 

I did have a crush who was 11 years older than me and I did meet him, though. Nothing came of it in the end but it was good while it lasted. We still keep in touch now (7 years later), and the friendship is still there.

[Hi.P.O'Crit]

Unfortunately I can believe the OP regarding the age difference and her parents acceptance. But only because I have seen it happen.

 

I have a cousin that is about 15 years older than his wife. He met her at about the same age as the OP. They have been together better than 20 years. Yes, her parents approved of the marriage. They are a very small minority.

 

The one thing that has always concerned me though is that she seems somewhat emotionally stunted. If you meet her she seems like a young woman not a woman in her 30's. Sometimes feels like you're talking to a girl in her early 20's.

 

I think that's one of the reasons posters like Record Producer and whichwayisup and others encourage you to mature on your own. Not let your fiance "teach" you about adult life. It's something you have to experience.

[Island Girl]

I don't read her as a "troll" poster either although I could be wrong.

 

To the OP:

 

Yes you write quite melodramatically.

But I do remember those years well and everything was bigger then. So many firsts; in emotions, comprehension, etc.

And you will have this feeling that no one on the planet has ever or will ever feel like you do now. And then you'll have that feeling again - and again.

 

We have been where you are sweetheart. We come from having experienced the years you live now and having the feelings you are feeling - and then we have lived the years following.

What many here are trying to tell you is that things will change - that YOU will change - in the next decade.

It is true. You will.

 

But you are 15 and no one can tell you anything right now. You know better than all of us.

We all felt like that too.

 

I think the other posters have forgotten what those years were like and how useless it is to tell you any different.

 

You must learn as we all did. With your own experiences and your own lessons in love.

 

I am glad you are refraining from any sexual activity with this man. Please adhere to that. If he gets here and you are still together (yes, I know he is your fiance and your EB and you never want another only him - but things may not be the same in person as there is this funny thing called chemistry that just sometimes isn't there) you may be tempted to forgo that little promise for the sake of true love.

Please don't.

 

Since your parents are paying for his visit I am hopeful they will be chaperoning your activities with him as well.

I would hope so.

 

But you must be that smart and that careful yourself.

 

There is a saying where there is a will there is a way and a 25 year old man has a will towards certain things.

Do not make sex a part of the visit.

 

 

I remember the days of young love. Those emotions that felt like they'd crush my ribcage.

 

And I know that no one could tell me anything about what I was feeling or what my future would be.

 

No one will be able to tell you anything. You'll have to learn it all for yourself.

It is a wonderful and difficult thing to learn about. Love can make your heart soar. And it can make you feel destroyed in ways you didn't think possible.

Please just realize you have a lot ahead of you and do not add sex to the equation until much later on in your life.

 

I wish you well in your quest.

[Jake Barnes]

I read a board once where trolls were discussing their antics. One of them said he'd invented a sockpuppet, got into an argument with it - and ended up feeling really angry and emotional about the whole thing. It was pretty funny.

Thats brilliant

 

I should have thought of that