carhill Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 If a woman shows interest and participates in sex(making love).... is there anything she can do wrong???? Yep, roll over and leave me hanging and you're toast
pollywag Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 Give us some time to recuperate and I'm sure we can go again.... That's not what a multiple orgasm refers to. Men in their simplicity don't get to experience them, that was my point. Again one of the reasons for the post was Stone's prior post about her BF and the sex being bad..... Yeah I gathered as much. Ok so if there is no such thing (almost) as a bad lay when it comes to women, how do you even know a good one? I mean if it all pretty much is good enough considering she is actually into it, which I think most women ARE, then what constitutes a good one? It seems futile for women to put any effort into sex when it's all pretty much the same for guys. The effort seems to keep men from getting bored but that's about it.
Author AnthonyF Posted April 10, 2009 Author Posted April 10, 2009 That's not what a multiple orgasm refers to. Men in their simplicity don't get to experience them, that was my point. Yeah I gathered as much. Ok so if there is no such thing (almost) as a bad lay when it comes to women, how do you even know a good one? I mean if it all pretty much is good enough considering she is actually into it, which I think most women ARE, then what constitutes a good one? It seems futile for women to put any effort into sex when it's all pretty much the same for guys. The effort seems to keep men from getting bored but that's about it. No, men have different levels of orgasms too.... Not the multiple you talk of, but there are better ones and there are ho hum one's also. Usually those are a result of a male screwing up, maybe under too much pressure or out of sync (usually on his part).... When it all works, then it is spectacular. When a woman shows little interest, which I've mentioned before, then yes it will not be as good.... However it is never bad.....
Cherished Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 No, you stated that what is wrong is when a woman doesn't cum a lot. Don't need the thousands of question marks, I was completely on-topic. A big part of the woman cuming is the man's effort so if she is not coming...that is not what is wrong with the woman, it's the man, hon. Glad you will be willing to do oral. You have gotten plenty of responses. Mostly women need to be willing to be experimental and be enthusiastic and active during sex. Really if you are in love, sex is not usually a problem, the sex happens and its great. I was answering what I thought a woman could do wrong in bed.... I am under the impression they can't do anything wrong if they bring a good attitude. And yes for a man that includes performing oral if that is what it takes to get a woman to cum.... I am missing the point of your comment??? So I asked the question in the OP and still not a single response as to what a woman can do wrong... Being unclean is not an answer and lying there or not being kinky enough can be an issue, which can affect both partners..... The point is I think and correct me if I am wrong..... Man have a whole lot more "performance issues" and stumbles then women. As long as a woman is a willing and active partner, does any man have a complaint????
tami-chan Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 ...In some cases she could speak .. <shakes head> aiyoh...LOL!!!!:p:p!
Sam Spade Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 My girlfriend is not that great in bed - a little too passive for my taste, but seems to be making progress under my skillful guidance . Regardless, she would probably never be wildest of the bunch I've slept with. That's the single problem with having any sexual history at all. You're bound to run into somebody who's not like what you're used to. But, that's okay. As long as i can do what i want and don't let myself get bored, no big deal.
pollywag Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 My girlfriend is not that great in bed - a little too passive for my taste, but seems to be making progress under my skillful guidance . Regardless, she would probably never be wildest of the bunch I've slept with. That's the single problem with having any sexual history at all. You're bound to run into somebody who's not like what you're used to. But, that's okay. As long as i can do what i want and don't let myself get bored, no big deal. Yeah right, marry her and then come and tell us how she "improves" in the long run. It's gonna get way worse. But you seem to be fine with that for the long haul so that's good to see coming from a guy!
pollywag Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 No, men have different levels of orgasms too.... Not the multiple you talk of, but there are better ones and there are ho hum one's also. Usually those are a result of a male screwing up, maybe under too much pressure or out of sync (usually on his part).... When it all works, then it is spectacular. When a woman shows little interest, which I've mentioned before, then yes it will not be as good.... However it is never bad..... Yeah I know it's not always the same, we can't always expect to feel the same way so obviously the intesity will vary and usually depends on many factors that aren't even related to the actual sex. What's interesting to see that you blame yourself even when it's not that great. Men really do take sex very personally.... Don't be so hard on yourself, it can't always be your fault. Sometimes whatever is going on in your day can affect how your body reacts sexually.
Sam Spade Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 Yeah right, marry her and then come and tell us how she "improves" in the long run. It's gonna get way worse. But you seem to be fine with that for the long haul so that's good to see coming from a guy! I just realised that as mediocre as the sex is, it is strangely, in fact, the most satisfying I've ever had. As long as she doesn't start turning me down, we'll be fine. Plus overtaking the fragile passive female is how mother nature originally intended it anyway .
Author AnthonyF Posted April 10, 2009 Author Posted April 10, 2009 No, you stated that what is wrong is when a woman doesn't cum a lot. Don't need the thousands of question marks, I was completely on-topic. A big part of the woman cuming is the man's effort so if she is not coming...that is not what is wrong with the woman, it's the man, hon. Glad you will be willing to do oral. You have gotten plenty of responses. Mostly women need to be willing to be experimental and be enthusiastic and active during sex. Really if you are in love, sex is not usually a problem, the sex happens and its great. Actually I am still lost as to the tone of the original post when you asked. Someone asked me what women could do wrong and when pushed I said orgasm. I realise and do put pressure on myself that it is me driving the bus to that orgasm..... Then you bring up oral, as if that is my problem in not getting a female to orgasm. What I was talking about is a hypothetical situation as to what a woman could do wrong, which I already stated was nothing (as long as she is into it). I chose a woman who has trouble orgasming for whatever reason, would be an issue, and then the irony of it is that many males would consider it their problem too.
serial muse Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 Why bother replying if your not going to add anything but a condescending attitude? Lots of guys ask themselves this question at one point or another. I could ask the same of you. Was that really necessary? Back off. I suppose I'm tired of people posting gotcha questions; let's just get to the point. If AnthonyF has something he wants to say about women screwing up during sex, I see no reason he can't just go ahead and say it. And when I asked him to, he did, so it worked out fine. My personal opinion is that men and women can both screw up in bed, of course, in similar ways. I think what Art said is pretty much the case. Seems clear to me.
Author AnthonyF Posted April 10, 2009 Author Posted April 10, 2009 I could ask the same of you. Was that really necessary? Back off. I suppose I'm tired of people posting gotcha questions; let's just get to the point. If AnthonyF has something he wants to say about women screwing up during sex, I see no reason he can't just go ahead and say it. And when I asked him to, he did, so it worked out fine. My personal opinion is that men and women can both screw up in bed, of course, in similar ways. I think what Art said is pretty much the case. Seems clear to me. The point was I didn't have anything to say as I this was not a pointed question at all and frankly I had no knowledge of anything a woman could do wrong outside not participating (i.e. lying there).... When pressed I said an orgasm from her was important and not one that takes an hour to achieve (too old and would be way too tiring ).... If a woman has problems achieving an orgasm, then the question is whether it is a psychological or physiological issue and that is a different issue all together and certainly not entirely the woman's fault. This is much different from men, who can screw up a number of ways in bed imo...
Trialbyfire Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 The long and short of this Anthony, is that men are so wonderful and women are high-maintenance and horrid little hags. There...I said it! Happy now?
Trialbyfire Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 Well of course, carhill! All men want is to get laid. They should be able to do their business in a minute or less, grunt and roll over to fall asleep. Better yet, they have a woman who only likes to give blowjobs, so they don't even have to work up a sweat. The ideal woman! Blowjobs, never say a word, cooks, cleans and raises brats. Let's not forget bringing beer to the big, fat couch potato, while he scratches his crotch, farts and burps all day long...
anne1707 Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 TBF - you forgot to mention how grateful the woman should be too
RecordProducer Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 OK, I don't think Anthony was talking about weird or extreme screwups. But men screw up all the time (not all men), while indeed, if a woman shows interest and participates actively, there's not much she can do to screw up. I mean, will she have a premature orgams or not get her clit up? Even if she can't procude moisture, it's easily fixed, even easily concealed. She isn't good at BJ's? That will make her look inexperienced which is a good thing for a lady! Even if her vagina is too big, that still goes on the account of the man's penis - it's too small. The things in which a woman can screw up are NOT gender related. Please note that Anthony said IF SHE IS INTERESTED AND PARTICIPATES, so yawning, talking, etc. doesn't apply.
carhill Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 Ah, a cold brewskie and a BJ. A woman after my heart
anne1707 Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 Ah, a cold brewskie and a BJ. At the same time? Careful you don't spill anything.....
Author AnthonyF Posted April 10, 2009 Author Posted April 10, 2009 The long and short of this Anthony, is that men are so wonderful and women are high-maintenance and horrid little hags. There...I said it! Happy now? Why so condescending??? I asked a question in all seriousness, maybe couched in my (or some males) insecurities... Who said men are wonderful and women high-maintenance and horrid little hags? Are we projecting our own feelings into this post?
prettybaby Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 Women can definitely screw up. If a woman is not into it, she'll be dry, you'll need lube, it will hurt for her, and she'll just lay there with a face like she's praying for it be over soon. I got sick about a month and a half ago, and although I wanted to get some sex going on right after, my body just wasn't ready yet. It hurt and we had to stop. The result: neither of us got laid that night lol I mean, we fooled around and it was no big deal, but this thread is about how women can screw up actual sex, so there you go. If we're sick, not attracted, depressed, or have any other reason that affects the physical pleasure, it will not feel good for us, and in return, the sex will suck for the guy as well (that's if he even gets sex at all under those circumstances).
Trialbyfire Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 Why so condescending??? I asked a question in all seriousness, maybe couched in my (or some males) insecurities... Who said men are wonderful and women high-maintenance and horrid little hags? Are we projecting our own feelings into this post? Like serial_muse, I'm tired of the disingenuous threads. Just say what you mean, if you have a point at all...
Author AnthonyF Posted April 10, 2009 Author Posted April 10, 2009 Like serial_muse, I'm tired of the disingenuous threads. Just say what you mean, if you have a point at all... I did say what I meant and was honest. Maybe being with my spouse for 20+ years answers some questions. I basically said later in the thread that I was in some way commenting about Stone (in another thread) and her BF not doing it for her in bed... Or was I just stating a fact that I don't think there is anything an enthusiastic woman can really do wrong. I asked a serious question. I then was pressed and said "No/infrequent or difficult to achieve Orgasms" would be a problem (and frankly not sure you can blame the woman). Would you rather have the Post been titled "How men screw up in bed"? TBF, do tell me is there anything you do "wrong" in bed? I stated what men do bad and I have done all those in the past.... I'm thrilled you are holier then thou and so much better a person and can read through such disingenuous threads.
RecordProducer Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 WTF? I think this is an excellent thread. He said what he wanted to say, that women are lucky in that respect and there was no negativity in his tone. It was just an interesting conclusion. And again, he said IF A WOMAN IS INTERESTED AND PARTICIPATES ACTIVELY, she can't screw up. Apparently, illness wouldn't be taken as screwing up anymore than a man saying "I am sorry, I have a doctor's appointment in 20 minutes, I don't have time for sex." I perfectly understand what Anthony was trying to say. I just don't understand why his head is being chewed off as if he said something against women. If anything, this totally goes in women's favor. Geeeeezzzz!
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