Chessy02 Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 http://www.herald.ie/national-news/courts/i-gave-my-daughter-her-toast-then-i-stabbed-my-wife-with-a-steak-knife-1685388.html
anne1707 Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 Is this some bizarre lets feel sorry for the man thing you want? Yes she had an affair. But do you think that justifies being killed by the husband? In front of the children?
Konfuzion Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 What an odd post. People break up, life happens and you move on. Not a reason to kill someone. And the roles very well could have been reversed.
Author Chessy02 Posted April 4, 2009 Author Posted April 4, 2009 Very bad he did such. Warning for men. Move on or go to jail ...no matter how painful it is.
Taramere Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 Very bad he did such. Warning for men. Move on or go to jail ...no matter how painful it is. That sounds like the kind of advice one would give a psychopath in recognition that he would have no empathy for the woman who was brutally stabbed to death, the children who witnessed it (and whose lives will be totally shattered by having witnessed it) or the dead woman's parents. Just a straightforward "don't do this, because the consequences to you personally will be unpleasant - and I know that's the only thing that matters to you."
Surfer Dude Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 IMO, when people discover cheating, they should IMMEDIATELY go f*ck ten other people in order to balance out the energies. Everyone's happy then, they can divorce and nobody gets hurt.
carhill Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 I'll bet he internalized his grief and resentment for a long time. It finally overrode his sense of morality and decency. Another example of not getting help early on leading to a bad, and in this case, fatal, ending. I'll bet that action was so out of character for him that people could not believe he had the capacity. Fair warning. We all do.
Woggle Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 Let's see if this man gets the same sympathy as Clara Harris.
soserious1 Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 She asked this guy straight up for a divorce and he refused, she plans on leaving anyway and his solution is to stab her to death in front of the kids?
Justanotherschmuck Posted April 5, 2009 Posted April 5, 2009 Let's see if this man gets the same sympathy as Clara Harris. Didn't much mind what what clara harris did, don't much mind what this guy did. (In front of the kids is the sad partl) You want to play, you pay. ANd pay. You mess with the trust and the hearts of someone you supposedly adored, you get whatever happens. Harris husband was the guilty party there, not his wife.
theBrokenMuse Posted April 5, 2009 Posted April 5, 2009 I love how his words to the cops were: "I would just like to say if this is going to be used in court, how deeply remorseful I am." Ahhhh, the type of sentiment uttered by a true sociopath. Seems like the real mistake of the departed was to ever get involved with her husband to begin with and then claims that he never meant to kill her after each strike went right through her body and hit a major organ. Yeah, that was just meant to sting. Really. He's utterly vile for ruining his childrens' lives forever by doing what he did in front of them after planning it out. For that alone he should spend the rest of his life behind bars. Sick jerk.
NINEBREAKER Posted April 5, 2009 Posted April 5, 2009 i feel sorry for the guy. he couldnt handle the situation corectly. i would have got evidence somehow then filed for divorce. i hate it when people cheat. however a cheating wife dose not justify murder. especially in front of your kids. and lets not forget men do the same to women too.
anne1707 Posted April 5, 2009 Posted April 5, 2009 i would have got evidence somehow then filed for divorce. She asked for a divorce and he refused her!
NINEBREAKER Posted April 5, 2009 Posted April 5, 2009 She asked for a divorce and he refused her! yeah but if you go to court for divorce it looks better if you got proof they been cheating.
anne1707 Posted April 5, 2009 Posted April 5, 2009 yeah but if you go to court for divorce it looks better if you got proof they been cheating. It also looks better if you don't kill your wife. Especially in front of your children.
NINEBREAKER Posted April 5, 2009 Posted April 5, 2009 It also looks better if you don't kill your wife. Especially in front of your children. agreed. a cheating spouse dose not justify murder
wuggle Posted April 5, 2009 Posted April 5, 2009 I'll bet he internalized his grief and resentment for a long time. It finally overrode his sense of morality and decency. Sorry but that just seems like a cop out to me. To me if he allowed this internalised anger and resentment o override his sense of decency and morality then his decency and morality were seriously flawed in the first place. To me the essence of decency and morality is how we deal with the sh*t that life throws at us, If I allowed my internalised anger and resentment of a similar situation to override my morals, I would admit as much and expect to be jailed for life and hated by all. Control of our anger is what essentially seperates us from 'lower' life forms, it IS our humanity.
carhill Posted April 5, 2009 Posted April 5, 2009 It's not a cop-out; rather, it is instructive to learn from and grow from. Earlier and better communication and resolution skills could have saved the bloodbath. Understanding why does not absolve one of responsibility. He's responsible and personally I think he needs a needle in his arm. Doing it in front of his children.....that's low
wuggle Posted April 5, 2009 Posted April 5, 2009 I think that means we mostly agree. Having had to internalise stuff like this I hope to hell I manage to maintain more control. One of the points that our MC counsellor kept coming back to was my reassurance that I was managing my anger about our situation. I always felt she was probing and looking for signs that I wasn't handling it too well. Think I'm ok, but scary that someone can see this as the best course of action, rather than just walk away.
Enema Posted April 5, 2009 Posted April 5, 2009 Well, that's quite a sharp reminder that you never really know anyone.
NINEBREAKER Posted April 5, 2009 Posted April 5, 2009 Well, that's quite a sharp reminder that you never really know anyone. i been with the same girl all of my highschool life up til now. i'm bout to grad. my second year of dating her i was givin a link to doing internet porn having sex with one of her female freinds. i never thought she was like that
pelicanpreacher Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 There are some stark differences between what this man did and what Clara Harris was guilty of. Clara Harris confronted him in the hotel lobby with his mistress and he beat the living sh#t out of her for her efforts. David Bourke waited in his home and heard her return while assuming that she had just been with her boyfriend. Clara Harris, already in a distraught frame of mind from the humiliating beat-down suffered at the hands of her own husband in defense of his mistress, made a conscious decision to ram the mistress's car. David Bourke deliberately picked up a steak knife and hid it behind his shirt as he proceeded into the next room to confront his wife. David Harris saw Clara Harris's car approaching that of his lover's and attempted to intervene by stopping what he knew Clara Harris was attempting to do by physically stepping into the front of her car's path. David Bourke made his intentions known only when he came within striking range. Clara Harris intended to damage another automobile. David Bourke intended to stab his wife. Both caused the death of another person but the difference still remains in the intent. Nice try at taking a dig at those who don't agree with you but, again, I see the facts of Clara Harris's case differently from those who would let their emotions overrule their logic and thus cast judgment based upon a sentiment rather than the rule of law!
carhill Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 Having had to internalise stuff like this I hope to hell I manage to maintain more control. One of the points that our MC counsellor kept coming back to was my reassurance that I was managing my anger about our situation. I always felt she was probing and looking for signs that I wasn't handling it too well. I internalized a lot and much of it came out in MC. I'm sure our psychologist had never been called some of the names I came up with for him. Freud would've been red The key was getting the issues out immediately and calmly, which is what I do now. I don't let it fester. I use the words "inappropriate" and "unacceptable" a lot more, along with "I feel used" and "taken advantage of". I also walk away more easily and disengage. I could easily have become that guy. The stress was killing me. I'll never forget being pissed at my wife and loading the truck up with her stuff and driving off with the tailgate down and what would fall out the back? My d@mn lawnmower
Enema Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/06/us/06killings.html?hpw Guy finds out his wife is having an affair and plans to leave him. So, he kills their kids then himself. Cheating wife is fine. How does anyone live in a trailer with 5 kids? :0
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